[Lnc-business] LPedia

Wed Jan 4 02:26:19 EST 2017

It occurs to me, as the resident mathematician, that this timeline may
contain an error.  I strongly suspect that February 2014 was more than 2
years ago.

More substantively, I would suggest that we can deal with Starchild's
concerns and those of Representative Harlos, simultaneously.  Let me ask
this question to anyone who wishes to answer it, but preferably someone who
actually knows the answer - either Harlos or Mr. Moellman:  Given what has
been suggested, what motions are needed, both to make the hosting happen,
and to then make the asset usable?  I think an answer to that will answer
Starchild's questions, while also telling the rest of us what it is that we
should do in order to (as I've heard mentioned) not bog down a potential
solution with the institutional inertia that has been its downfall.

As Starchild mentions, by the way, I'm puzzled by the existence of a
website with "edia" in the name which is not openly editable.  Although,
come to think of it, encyclopedias end in "edia" and are only fully
editable in the most trivial sense - a sense that involves ripping out
pages or drawing on them with crayons and markers.  Maybe it's the "wiki"
part that indicates an editable thing?  But the wookiepedia is open to the
world to edit...can anyone clarify this issue?

Joshua A. Katz

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 12:45 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net> wrote:

>
> Nearly 2 years ago (Feb. 15, 2014), I posted to the LNC list (in part):
>
> There is the makings of an excellent Libertarian Party historical archive
> in the form of a wiki specifically devoted to the party, at LPedia.org.
> The site is apparently owned by the LNC (see http://www.whois.com/
> whois/lpedia.org ). Since LPedia.org remains online, we presumably
> continue to pay for web hosting, but the site has not been updated since
> 2008 -- the most recent entries generally appear to be spam (see
> http://www.lpedia.org/Special:Recentchanges ) -- and I have been unable
> to log in or create a new account. An email I sent a couple weeks ago to
> webmaster at lpedia.org has gone unanswered.
>
> This resource has received a significant amount of web traffic (see
> http://www.lpedia.org/Special:Statistics), but it appears that it is
> being totally wasted. Does anyone know anything about this? Robert Kraus's
> name is listed as Admin.
>
>
> At that time, I had not heard anyone else in the party leadership talking
> about it; I discovered the site and raised the issue on my own. I haven't
> heard what we are paying for what definitely has been a "neglected asset" –
> can someone supply that information, and where the expense appears in our
> budget? If we can keep the site while saving money that's a good thing, all
> else being equal, but hosting is not to my mind the only hurdle to overcome
> in terms of making it a functional asset.
>
> From what I can see, the basic issue is that staff doesn't have time to
> tightly administer the site, but there has been a reluctance to release our
> grip on information enough to make it fully functional (allow everyone, or
> at the very least LP members, to edit it as readily as one can edit
> Wikipedia) *without* a big investment of staff time.
>
> Ken, does the approach you are talking about here address this problem? If
> so, how? Please be specific.
>
> Love & Liberty,
>                                     ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>                                   (415) 625-FREE
>                                     @StarchildSF
>
>
> On Jan 3, 2017, at 10:10 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> As you all know, I have been the one really pushing for the LPedia issue
> and I spoke with Ken at length about this, and I am satisfied with this and
> in fact more than satisfied.  And from what I understand it is a cost
> savings from what we were paying for this neglected asset, and it becomes a
> functional assert.
>
> I thank Ken for his hard work and diligence on this.
>
> On Tue, Jan 3, 2017 at 10:46 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
> wrote:
>
>> All -
>>
>> After discussion with Sean and staff, we believe we have found a good,
>> long-term solution for LPedia.  We have found a hosting company who has
>> offered to host LPedia for less than $500/yr.  This solution is a corporate
>> plan with a Virtual Private Server with DDOS protection. They offer advice
>> on best practices as well as services to help block the spam that has
>> plagued LPedia. Best of all, the solution includes support. So, if LPedia
>> has a problem, there's a number to call to get it fixed.
>>
>> This fixes the technical problems with LPedia and moves us towards our
>> goal of saving the party money.
>>
>> I wanted to give the LNC the opportunity to object to this move prior to
>> pulling the trigger.  If you have any questions, please let me know.
>> --
>>
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>>
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> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
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> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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