[Lnc-business] comment on costs and savings on I.T. projects - Re: LPedia

[Daniel Hayes]

As to what Nick said,

"The Chair is the chief executive officer of the Party with full authority to direct its business and affairs, including hiring and discharging of National Committee volunteers and paid personnel, subject to express National Committee policies and directives issued in the exercise of the National Committee's plenary control and management of Party affairs, properties and funds. "



Daniel Hayes
LNC AT LARGE MEMBER

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> On Jan 4, 2017, at 4:56 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yes Nick, that is what Ken and I are working on.
> 
> - Caryn Ann 
> 
> 
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Nicholas Sarwark <chair at lp.org> wrote:
>> FYI: You don't need to pass any motions to move LPedia to a hosted
>> solution.  Ken was sending a heads up to see if there's any objection.
>> 
>> Creation of a committee or something like that would need a motion.
>> 
>> -Nick
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 3:39 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi everyone, Ken and I (primarily Ken - all due credit to his efforts behind
>> > the scenes on this) are going to work on the appropriate motions.  Pretty
>> > much it is Ken, and he is running by me to be sure I don't see something
>> > missing.
>> >
>> > But we need to realize that LPedia is going away - from where it is now -
>> > that is happening.  We can either save it or not. This is the best means to
>> > save it with little to no efforts needed from staff.  The rest of the
>> > questions are great - but they are right now irrelevant to the existential
>> > question.  Those can be developed as we go, but we have to pull the trigger
>> > on the existential question.  Or give up LPedia to someone else and lose a
>> > great means to solve many problems and responsibilities such as historical
>> > information that doesn't even really belong on a simply frozen archive site
>> > discussed before, take control of preserving the vast history in the
>> > psychical archives I inspected during our visit, and being good stewards of
>> > our history going forward.  IOW, this is a gold mine to solve a lot of
>> > nagging website objections I still have and many members still have.
>> >
>> > So much has been wasted (over the years now I see with Starchild's input)
>> > talking and not doing.  Ken did what I asked and beyond.  He found a great
>> > solution.
>> >
>> > Motions will be forthcoming.
>> >
>> > Joshua did have the sum of it quite nicely.
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > In Liberty,
>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> > Harlos at LP.org
>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 9:16 AM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> To expand on what Ken said, while I do also hope cost-savings are realized
>> >> with some of these various I.T. projects (LPEdia, various emails systems,
>> >> LP.org hosting, Raiser's Edge upgrades, etc.), I think we've seen
>> >> over-optimistic projections for savings quite a bit, so I'll personally try
>> >> not to be overly optimistic about potential savings when discussing these
>> >> projects with the LNC and others.
>> >>
>> >> I think we need to do many of these upgrades even if some of the direct
>> >> expenditures result in being higher than our current direct expenditures.
>> >>
>> >> Other people, feel free to expand on the concept of Total Cost of
>> >> Ownership, opportunity costs, other benefits, etc., but some of the direct
>> >> expenditures that are easily identifiable won't necessarily go down.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> >> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> >> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>> >> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>> >> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> >> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>> >>
>> >> On 1/4/2017 9:09 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> So we're looking, overall, at reducing budget from about $3000/mo down to
>> >>> approximately $1500/mo.  Don't hold me to these figures just yet; there are
>> >>> still decisions to be made.  The goal here is to provide better service at a
>> >>> lower price.  I think that goal is attainable.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >
>> > --
>> > In Liberty,
>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
>> > Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> > Harlos at LP.org
>> > Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> > Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> >
>> >
>> >
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> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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