[Lnc-business] Motion:

[Daniel Hayes]

I have to echo what Sam said.  I was about to type something similar when his response came in.   I think I am a bigger supporter of this than he is but it just has way too many aspects for an email vote.

At the very least before anybody sponsored a vote on something this complex I think a better idea would be to let the rest of the LNC beat on it, chew it and take it around the block before starting an email vote.  SOMEONE will likely find some fatal flaw as the vote is underway and then we need another.. it also goes for the back door on the transparency issue.  Let's parse this thing out.  Chunk it up and handle it piece by piece.


Daniel Hayes 
LNC At Large Member

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> On Jan 8, 2017, at 8:19 PM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This motion as proposed is entirely too cumbersome, possibly has unlimited financial exposure and involves the 
> entire LNC in voting on things that should be the purview of the committee.  Why should this committee not be
> subject to the budgetary process as are all other committees of the LNC?  Why waste the time of the entire LNC 
> by voting  on the destruction of various documents?   Who is  going to enforce the requirement that "all agendas, public meeting minutes, and public records of the Party shall be made available to the Historic Preservation Committee."?
> 
> I cannot sponsor nor would I vote in favor of this motion in the present form.  There is probably a need for a Historic Preservation Committee but, as written, the effort would take an extraordinary amount of time from staff and LNC members that would be much 
> better used getting people elected.
> 
> 
> 
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> Member at Large
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>> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 8:56 PM, Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org> wrote:
>>  
>> 
>> The following is a motion seeking a sponsor and co-sponsors, to create the Historic Preservation Committee, tasked with preserving and publishing all historical documents of the Party.
>> 
>> 
>> Add a line item to chart in subsection 1 of section 1.03 of the Policy Manual, which reads (column name in italics):
>> 
>> (Committee name) Historic Preservation Committee
>> (Size) Two (2) LNC Members or Alternates, plus up to five (5) non-LNC members. 
>> (Member Selection) LNC Members or Alternates selected by LNC. Non-LNC members selected by the committee, which shall be accepted unless objected to by a majority of the LNC within 14 days of notification.  
>> (Chair Selection) * Committee Selected
>> 
>> 
>> Create a new subsection under section 2.02 of the Policy Manual, which reads:
>> 
>> x) Historic Preservation Committee
>> 
>> The goal of the Historic Preservation Committee is to preserve historical documents of the party.  To that end, the committee shall:
>> 1. With the assistance of staff and the Secretary, maintain all physical historic information in a safe and climate controlled environment. Any costs for document storage shall be presented to the LNC and shall be accepted unless objected to by the majority of the entire LNC within 14 days.
>> 2. With the assistance of staff and the Secretary, collect all public electronic records.
>> 3. With the assistance of the IT Committee and staff, provide and maintain a permanent public document archive in the form of a publicly-viewable website which is separate from the Party’s primary website.
>> 4. Make a good faith effort to preserve and publish all historical documents, and transform physical documents into electronic format toward that end.
>> 5. Vote to recommend the destruction of any original document, or document for which no other copy is available. No such document shall be destroyed without the consent of the LNC, as outlined in Section 2.07(x).
>> 6. At each LNC meeting, present a summary of physical document preservation mechanisms currently being utilized, and the number of documents preserved in electronic format.
>> 7. Ensure that any document that would qualify for discussion under the rules of executive session for the LNC, as outlined under Section 1.02(5), remains private until such time that the Executive Committee, or the entire LNC, meeting in executive session, votes in the affirmative to make that information public.
>> 8. Within one business day, inform the LNC of any committee appointments.
>> 9. Publicly announce and permit a public audience for all meetings, other than those meetings held for the explicit purpose of discussing historic items that would qualify for Executive Session.  
>> 
>> Nothing listed in the responsibilities, powers, or scope of this Committee shall be construed to prevent or circumvent the normal operation of the Party’s main website or to interfere in the duties of the Secretary as mandated by the Party Bylaws or this Policy Manual.
>> 
>> 
>> Create a new subsection under section 2.07 of the Policy Manual, which reads:
>> 
>> (x) All agendas, public meeting minutes, and public records of the Party shall be made available to the Historic Preservation Committee.  No data shall be deleted or destroyed without a vote in the affirmative by no less than two-thirds of the entire LNC.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
>> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
>> LPKY Judicial Committee
>> 
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