[Lnc-business] Motion:

Caryn Ann Harlos carynannharlos at gmail.com
Sun Jan 8 23:42:10 EST 2017


Thank you David.  I hope to get wording worked on that will work for nearly
everyone.

I suggested changes to address Tim's objections.  I guessed where Daniel
was having an issue and suggested a change there.

No one is married to the wording here - we want to get something passed.

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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>


On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 9:37 PM, David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net>
wrote:

> I will co-sponsor the Historical Preservation Committee and document
> storage motion after all co-sponsors agree on the wording of the motion. I
> have no re-wording suggestions at the moment.
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> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> LNC Region 6 Representative
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> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Tim Hagan
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 08, 2017 10:09 PM
> *To:* Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Motion:
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> Thanks, that sounds good to me.
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> Tim
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> *From:* Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> *To:* Tim Hagan <timhagan-tyr at yahoo.com>; Libertarian National Committee
> list <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 8, 2017 7:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Motion:
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> Ken has reopened the link for discussion and comments.  It is a
> collaborative document.
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> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15PTl9Ns-S7MwNs1HwrgTx8kq
> n-bXkJSsvrsXmpaYBhk/edit
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> Tim, I am suggesting that change to number 7.
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> -Caryn Ann
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> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Daniel, Ken put up the document a few days before and was ignored except
> by Joshua and Starchild.
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> Would you like to go back to working on it? Will you commit to doing so?
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> Explain the back door on the transparency issue because I'm not seeing
> it.  This refers to public records.
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> -Caryn Ann
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> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 7:33 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> *For number 1, why shouldn't the costs for document storage be part of the
> annual budgeting, like everything else?*
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> Tim do you have a proposed change that would cure that?
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> *In number 7, the vote should be done outside of executive session. The
> Policy Manual states, "No action can be taken while in Executive Session.
> Discussion of action which may be taken in Open Session can occur."*
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> Would this cure that?
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> 7. Ensure that any document that would qualify for discussion under the
> rules of executive session for the LNC, as outlined under Section 1.02(5),
> remains private until such time that the Executive Committee, or the entire
> LNC votes in the affirmative to make that information public.
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> On Sun, Jan 8, 2017 at 7:24 PM, Tim Hagan <timhagan-tyr at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> In number 7, the vote should be done outside of executive session. The
> Policy Manual states, "No action can be taken while in Executive Session.
> Discussion of action which may be taken in Open Session can occur."
>
>
>
> For number 1, why shouldn't the costs for document storage be part of the
> annual budgeting, like everything else?
>
>
>
> Tim Hagan
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> *From:* Ken Moellman <ken.moellman at lpky.org>
> *To:* Lnc Business <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 8, 2017 5:56 PM
> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Motion:
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> The following is a motion seeking a sponsor and co-sponsors, to create the
> Historic Preservation Committee, tasked with preserving and publishing all
> historical documents of the Party.
>
>
> *Add a line item to chart in subsection 1 of section 1.03 of the Policy
> Manual, which reads (column name in italics):*
>
> *(Committee name)* Historic Preservation Committee
> *(Size)* Two (2) LNC Members or Alternates, plus up to five (5) non-LNC
> members.
> *(Member Selection)* LNC Members or Alternates selected by LNC. Non-LNC
> members selected by the committee, which shall be accepted unless objected
> to by a majority of the LNC within 14 days of notification.
> *(Chair Selection)* * Committee Selected
>
>
> *Create a new subsection under section 2.02 of the Policy Manual, which
> reads:*
>
> x) Historic Preservation Committee
>
> The goal of the Historic Preservation Committee is to preserve historical
> documents of the party.  To that end, the committee shall:
> 1. With the assistance of staff and the Secretary, maintain all physical
> historic information in a safe and climate controlled environment. Any
> costs for document storage shall be presented to the LNC and shall be
> accepted unless objected to by the majority of the entire LNC within 14
> days.
> 2. With the assistance of staff and the Secretary, collect all public
> electronic records.
> 3. With the assistance of the IT Committee and staff, provide and maintain
> a permanent public document archive in the form of a publicly-viewable
> website which is separate from the Party’s primary website.
> 4. Make a good faith effort to preserve and publish all historical
> documents, and transform physical documents into electronic format toward
> that end.
> 5. Vote to recommend the destruction of any original document, or document
> for which no other copy is available. No such document shall be destroyed
> without the consent of the LNC, as outlined in Section 2.07(x).
> 6. At each LNC meeting, present a summary of physical document
> preservation mechanisms currently being utilized, and the number of
> documents preserved in electronic format.
> 7. Ensure that any document that would qualify for discussion under the
> rules of executive session for the LNC, as outlined under Section 1.02(5),
> remains private until such time that the Executive Committee, or the entire
> LNC, meeting in executive session, votes in the affirmative to make that
> information public.
> 8. Within one business day, inform the LNC of any committee appointments.
> 9. Publicly announce and permit a public audience for all meetings, other
> than those meetings held for the explicit purpose of discussing historic
> items that would qualify for Executive Session.
>
> Nothing listed in the responsibilities, powers, or scope of this Committee
> shall be construed to prevent or circumvent the normal operation of the
> Party’s main website or to interfere in the duties of the Secretary as
> mandated by the Party Bylaws or this Policy Manual.
>
>
> *Create a new subsection under section 2.07 of the Policy Manual, which
> reads:*
>
> (x) All agendas, public meeting minutes, and public records of the Party
> shall be made available to the Historic Preservation Committee.  No data
> shall be deleted or destroyed without a vote in the affirmative by no less
> than two-thirds of the entire LNC.
>
>
>
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> Ken C. Moellman, Jr.
> LNC Region 3 Alternate Representative
> LPKY Judicial Committee
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> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
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> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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> *In Liberty,*
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> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
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> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
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> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
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> *In Liberty,*
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> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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