[Lnc-business] EFC Update and Extension

Wed Jan 11 14:32:18 EST 2017

Hi Everyone,

Please give us the extension or don't. All good, either way.

We are asking for nothing else: No more authority, no more scope, no name
change, nothing else. Just an extension.

Thank you.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Demarest, David P. <
David.Demarest at firstdata.com> wrote:

> Since we are considering Alicia’s wise suggested amendment to the original
> motion at the December LNC meeting, this would be a good opportunity to
> include in the amendment a clear, concise name for the committee agreeable
> to all. Then we can get on with the more important challenge of getting
> stuff done.
>
>
>
> To start the ball rolling, I suggest “Messaging Technique Committee” (MTC)
> or “Messaging Mode Committee” (MMC) as an improvement on the present “Name
> Unknown Committee” (NUC). Others?
>
>
>
> ====================================
>
>
>
> Caryn Ann, I understand and agree with your concerns about committee scope
> creep and backdoor circumvention of the principle and message content
> approval responsibilities of the Platform Committee and convention
> delegates. There is wide-spread disagreement within all levels of the LP on
> whether LP outreach message content is or should be based on platform
> content that is too timid, too bold or as many variations in between as
> there are individual Libertarians. However, many would agree that the voice
> of the LP would benefit from a major overhaul of our messaging *technique*
> strategy that has an undeniably poor track record.
>
>
>
> Like you, I am inclined to think that passive-aggressive attempts to
> promote a false-dichotomy Libertarian conflict between principles and
> getting stuff done is both divisive and subversive to our LP platform,
> messaging strategy and freedom goals. At the same time, blind allegiance to
> static historical imperatives does a disservice to our intellectual
> abilities. Reality suggests that LP consensus on Platform disagreements is
> not likely to occur in the foreseeable future, with or without a “night of
> the long knives” strategy proposed by a small cadre of “Libertarian”
> Machiavellian authoritarians with latent statist motivations.
>
>
>
> Institutions, by their very nature as groups of individuals, suffer from
> inertia and internal disagreements. Institutions are great focal points but
> their size and diversity often results in diminished productivity returns
> unless they are dominated by top-down dictatorial authoritarians that
> offend the liberty-oriented sensibilities of most Libertarians.
> Accordingly, I propose that we embrace our internal institutional
> disagreements and leverage our diversity to refocus our Libertarian
> institutions as inspirational focal points designed to lead by example,
> empower and motivate individual Libertarians to strike out on their own and
> do the bulk of getting Libertarian stuff done.
>
>
>
> I love the LP and LNC as inspirational focal points and gatherings. There
> I can network with talented action-oriented Libertarians with an admirable
> variety of persuasions. That diversity is directly responsible for a wealth
> of food-for-thought ideas on bottom-up personal opportunities to move the
> needle in the direction of freedom. Those ideas naturally lead to
> self-starter collaborations within smaller groups of like-minded
> Libertarians that share similar principles and can get Libertarian stuff
> done without institutional distractions.
>
>
>
> One exciting purpose of the upcoming October 20-22 2017 Omaha Libertarian
> Strategy UnConvention is to facilitate a dialog on how to embrace
> Libertarian institutional disagreements and inspire individual Libertarians
> to emerge from their institutional cocoon comfort zones and seize the
> initiative to accelerate getting Libertarian stuff done.
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> LNC Region 6 Representative
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* Caryn Ann Harlos [mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2017 11:04 AM
> *To:* Libertarian National Committee list
> *Cc:* Demarest, David P.
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] EFC Update and Extension
>
>
>
> I too agree (I am not a co-sponsor but just giving my thoughts) to
> Alicia's points on the wording.
>
>
>
> Alicia also touched upon an objection I had early on.  The Committee name
> does not reflect what was passed or what the Committee is actually doing in
> the narrow confines of what was passed.  I continue to object to expansion
> via naming.
>
>
>
>
> --
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> *In Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>
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> On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 7:47 AM, David Demarest <
> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>
> I agree with Alicia’s thoughtful suggestion on how to make the “EFC”
> motion simple and technically correct.
>
>
>
> Trent, Larry and co-sponsors: Thoughts?
>
>
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> LNC Region 6 Representative
>
> Cell:      402-981-6469 <(402)%20981-6469>
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>
> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Alicia Mattson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 11, 2017 2:11 AM
>
>
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] EFC Update and Extension
>
>
>
> There are 5 co-sponsors of this motion, which is more than enough to
> sponsor an email ballot, however there are two technical problems with the
> wording, one of which is fairly important to note.  I want to make sure the
> co-sponsors are aware of this before I send it out for a vote.
>
> 1)  This motion references "EFC", but if someone is not reading these
> threads as we are, and they're just reading our minutes later, they'll have
> no clue what this motion is talking about.  At the time we created the
> committee, we didn't specify any name for the committee at all, but it was
> under an agenda heading about reviewing the 2016 campaign.  Following the
> meeting when I needed to have staff add this committee to our website, I
> merely had them designate it as the Committee to Solicit Bids for Reviewing
> 2016 Campaign.  That way it would be easy to find in our minutes what that
> committee was.
>
> The committee members themselves nicknamed it the Empowered Future
> Committee (? I think ?), but that name appears nowhere in our minutes, nor
> does the acronym EFC.
>
> The name confusion will will leave readers in the dark about what it was
> this motion did.
>
> 2)  The bigger technical issue with this motion is that it actually
> imposes new requirements on the committee and doesn't accurately represent
> what the date in the original motion was for.  This wording says nothing
> about changing the due date for the bids, which is what the January 10th
> date was.  However, the wording now says the committee is to present us a
> report by the date of January 30, though the original motion required no
> report from the committee to the LNC in January.  If we mean to make the
> bid deadline January 30, the committee would presumably need some time
> after the bid submission deadline to come up with any recommendations and
> make any sort of report back to us about the bids.
>
> Is that what the co-sponsors intended to do?  Impose a new reporting
> requirement on an unreasonable time frame?
>
> My suggestion to fix both issues is that you take Joshua's idea to merely
> amend the motion we adopted in December to change the date, and leave the
> rest of the wording alone.  (Okay, technically Joshua said just to change
> the "1" to a "3", but this representation is just a little more readable.)
> Amend the motion we adopted in December as follows:
>
>
>
> "that the Libertarian National Committee establish a committee to take
> bids from political consultants for the task of extensively reviewing and
> making recommendations for the Libertarian Party’s messaging (and modes of
> messaging), inclusion in the debates, fundraising and campaign finance,
> campaign mechanics, and state and local affiliates. Said agency will agree
> to present their findings to the public before December of 2017. The
> committee will take bids until the 10th*30th* of January."
>
>
>
> I need to hear from the co-sponsors what you want to do.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Demarest, David P. <
> David.Demarest at firstdata.com> wrote:
>
> I am seeking co-sponsors for the following motion:
>
>
>
> Extend deadline from 1/10/2017 to 1/30/2017 for EFC presentation to LNC of
> report on political consultant bids, analysis and recommendations.
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> *2017 Omaha Libertarian Strategy UnConvention Oct 20-22*
>
>
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> LNC Region 6 Representative
>
> Cell:      402-981-6469 <(402)%20981-6469>
>
> Home: 402-493-0873 <(402)%20493-0873>
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> Office: 402-222-7207 <(402)%20222-7207>
>
>
>
> *From:* David Demarest [mailto:dpdemarest at centurylink.net]
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2017 11:02 PM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Cc:* Demarest, David P.; 'David Demarest'
> *Subject:* RE: [Lnc-business] EFC Update and Extension
>
>
>
> Larry or Trent,
>
>
>
> If you can provide the desired wording, I will offer the motion unless
> someone has already done so.
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> LNC Region 6 Representative
>
> Cell:      402-981-6469 <(402)%20981-6469>
>
> Home: 402-493-0873 <(402)%20493-0873>
>
> Office: 402-222-7207 <(402)%20222-7207>
>
>
>
> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
> <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Joshua Katz
> *Sent:* Monday, January 09, 2017 7:35 PM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] EFC Update and Extension
>
>
>
> My recollection is that we chose January 10 so that the bids would be
> presented on my birthday.  I'm disappointed we won't be able to receive
> them on that auspicious occasion.
>
>
>
> I will cosponsor a motion with Sam, however, to amend our previously
> adopted motion by substituting a 3 for the 1 in "10."
>
>
> Joshua A. Katz
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 6:15 PM, Larry Sharpe <lsharpe at neo-sage.com> wrote:
>
> Hi LNC Team,
>
> Happy New Year.
>
> We have found four possible vendors for proposals. Each has our request
> and is scheduled to provide us with a plan/proposal by the end of this week.
>
> We will whittle these down and perhaps have a Q & A and/or a 2nd round
> before selecting 2 or 3 of them to present (heir plans with details) to the
> LNC.
>
> As I mentioned in a previous note, we will need to extend our deadline.
> It was challenging to get the right vendors who are the right size, with
> the right backgrounds, that are willing to help us with flexible pricing
> options. And when you add on the Holiday Season, this was even tougher.
>
> Therefore, with respect, the EFC requests an extension to January 30th to
> confidently be able to present options to the LNC.
>
> --
>
> Larry
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