[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-02: Historic Preservation Committee

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

And I can assure the LNC I have no intention of not appointing anyone.  I
already have people who would be interested, and I would have every
intention of running by LNC.  I would be working in close consultation with
Ken as I have in this whole process.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Folks, I take responsibility for not paying enough attention until now to
> notice what I think is a serious problem with the wording of this motion.
> In actuality, the problem I'm going to point to is not fatal for this
> particular motion, for reasons I'll discuss below, but I have to point out
> that, in principle, I have a concern about it.
>
> It was previously asked if a motion of this sort creates a chair for
> life.  That problem was dealt with here by limiting the life of the
> committee.  Presumably, the intent of the motion is that the committee's
> real job will be recommending to the LNC a more permanent structure of some
> sort to keep this happening, together with a set of things that need to be
> done.  So far, so good.
>
> My objection, and we should be cautious about the precedent being set
> here, is the "...to appoint up to 4 others."  When a power is delegated, it
> often is lost by the delegating body, unless it is taken from the
> committee's hand, which requires a higher vote threshold (unless done
> during a partial report or a report has been missed).  A person who is
> empowered to appoint up to 4 others is empowered to appoint 0 others as
> well.  Thus, such language gives permission for a person to be a committee
> unto themselves, even when this is not intended.
>
> In this case, there are many reasons this isn't a problem.  Most
> importantly, there's just no reason to suspect that the person involved
> would do such a thing - but this is a poor reason for creating potential
> problems.  The committee also is not empowered, and can only make
> recommendations - the worst that a dictatorial chair could do would be to
> gain some agenda time and the imprimatur of a committee, both of which
> could be dealt with.
>
> So, I don't see this concern as a reason not to vote for this, but I do
> want to make a note for future reference that we should avoid this
> formulation in places where it could matter.
>
> Joshua A. Katz
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 7:58 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>
>>
>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by January 23, 2017 at 11:59:59pm
>> Pacific time.*
>> *Co-Sponsors:*  Goldstein, Harlos, Demarest, Bittner
>>
>> *Motion:*  The LNC establishes a Historic Preservation Committee to help
>> preserve and publish historical documents of the party and to manage
>> LPedia.  This committee is granted a budget of $5,000.  Caryn Ann Harlos is
>> appointed chair with authority to appoint up to 4 others.  This committee
>> will expire at the end of the LNC meeting preceding the 2018 LP National
>> Convention.
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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