[Lnc-business] Historic Preservation Committee Version 2
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Sat Jan 14 13:03:03 EST 2017
Yes I certainly understand, and I hope once this is going it is will
provide a blueprint for a more detailed process that the LNC will be
comfortable adopting as it will no longer be "virgin" territory.
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Caryn Ann. Based on these assurances and the other information you
> and Ken have supplied indicating that a good search for hosting providers
> was undertaken, etc., I will support the motion, despite some concerns over
> the wording and process.
>
> As a general matter, I think the LNC should make committee appointments
> rather than just appointing a chair and leaving it to that person
> appointing others. That's a recipe for committees being stacked, even if a
> committee chair were not to take the extreme step of failing to appoint
> anyone else and acting as a committee of one. Hopefully the work in
> question of preserving the party's history and setting up LPedia as a
> functional wiki to facilitate this won't be controversial.
>
> After the website has been allowed to sit fallow for so long, enabling
> that work to get done under the management of someone who understands what
> needs to happen is certainly a big positive and I really didn't want to
> oppose getting this going, but I do want to echo Joshua in saying for the
> record that the wording about appointments could be problematic in other
> circumstances. Ditto for authorizing expenditures without more detailed
> language in the motion specifying how the funds are to be spent.
>
> I continue to feel that we need solid procedures for ensuring that all
> significant expenditures are subject to competitive bidding and a widely
> visible effort is made to find qualified volunteers prior to staff or
> contractors being hired or paid to do stuff. Unfortunately we can't count
> on everyone being as conscientious about spending as you are.
>
> Love & Liberty,
> ((( starchild )))
> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> (415) 625-FREE
> @StarchildSF
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2017, at 9:23 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
> I am not intending on that paying travel costs. That would be a volunteer
> gift. I have a local volunteer who is going to be doing an inventory. I
> do not intend for any of those funds to go for anything other than the
> records and costs involved with the records. No travel or other expenses.
> If people need to raise money to do that, they can do it outside this
> budget.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> I was mostly talking about the general categories of expenses – I know
>> you don't know exactly how many records you're dealing with, etc.
>> Digitization is what I'm hearing – any other categories? If you (or anyone
>> else) fly to Virginia or have other travel costs, I assume the party would
>> not be footing the bill for that? Just trying to do due diligence here...
>>
>> Love & Liberty,
>> ((( starchild )))
>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>> (415) 625-FREE
>> @StarchildSF
>>
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>> It is difficult to say with complete specificity as my initial survey was
>> just that, an initial survey. I would make another trip to VA at some
>> point here. But primarily getting the records digitized for mass viewing
>> and placing on LPedia. There are also some old convention audios and other
>> recordings to be digitized, but those are small compared to the just brute
>> digitization of paper that needs to be done.
>>
>> I would like to organize a volunteer day to go down to that storage unit
>> and completely organize it. Wes has done a fantastic job on getting it
>> useable, but there are still "mystery" boxes. And that is something staff
>> just does not have the time to do, but the loving hands of volunteers could
>> get it done.
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 9:26 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Ah, okay. What preservation project costs would the funding cover in
>>> that case?
>>>
>>> I'd wait until we actually have a crowdfunding page before considering a
>>> donation.
>>>
>>> Love & Liberty,
>>> ((( starchild )))
>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>> (415) 625-FREE
>>> @StarchildSF
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 8:12 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>
>>> Web hosting is separate. This is for the preservation project.
>>>
>>> And I'm open to a crowd fund page. How much can I put you down for?
>>>
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 9:10 AM Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Sam, Caryn Ann. So the appropriated funds would be going toward
>>>> web hosting, potentially scanning, anything else?
>>>>
>>>> Good to hear money is also being raised. It's too bad we don't have a
>>>> crowdfunding page on the website to facilitate that.
>>>>
>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>> ((( starchild )))
>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>> (415) 625-FREE
>>>> @StarchildSF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2017, at 7:57 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>
>>>> And FWIW, some of the activists mobilizing on this have started and we
>>>> raised about $300 to start. I have one volunteer with access to
>>>> professional scanning equipment that is donating days of work- the cost
>>>> benefit analysis there will be shipping. Experimenting with that now on
>>>> the dime of our funds we pooled.
>>>>
>>>> A committee will explore free and volunteer ways first and foremost to
>>>> find the most effective. Which may be having a local scanning co. I think
>>>> it will end up being a combination of all these.
>>>>
>>>> Wes' estimate seems about right for what I saw the cabinets and a lot
>>>> of the unit. As this goes forward I would make another trip into that unit
>>>> to organize and sort. We didn't want to impose on Wes's time so only took
>>>> a peek to get a good general grasp on what was there. It was glorious.
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 8:41 AM Sam Goldstein <
>>>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It was in the sample motion that Wes proposed as an alternative to the
>>>> one Caryn Ann was working on. I assume that Wes has some idea of
>>>> what this project will cost.
>>>>
>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> Member at Large
>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone
>>>> 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 10:09 AM, Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How was the $5,000 number reached?
>>>>
>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>> ((( starchild )))
>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>> (415) 625-FREE
>>>> @StarchildSF
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 12, 2017, at 4:41 PM, Sam Goldstein wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *"The LNC establishes a Historical Preservation Committee to help
>>>> preserve and publish historical documents of the party and to manage
>>>> LPedia. This committee is granted a budget of $5,000. Caryn Ann Harlos is
>>>> appointed chair withauthority to appoint up to four others. This committee
>>>> will expire at the end of the LNC meeting preceding the 2018 LP National
>>>> Convention" *
>>>>
>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> Member at Large
>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone
>>>> 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
>>>>
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>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
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