[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-03: Cuban Arrests

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Presumption and due process makes it the right move in my view, otherwise
we could never say anything - all the government has to do is be a complete
tyrant and it silences our voice. This is the reason I changed from
abstain.  And while there are other people similarly situated, I don't see
a paralyzing obligation to speak for every single one in order to speak for
any single one(s)- and particularly those engaged in libertarian activism,
our own "family" as it were.  And family must speak for family. With
troubling lists here in the country including "libertarians" and
"anti-government activists" as being red flags in and of itself, it is also
self-interest for us to speak out. And not to go Godwin... but when they
came for [insert any victim of the state - lack of due process makes a
person a victim, even if they ultimate are found out to have done
something, even the guilty deserve due process as a human right] I was
silent, and when they came for me, there was no one left to speak - bad
paraphrase but the principle holds.

- Caryn Ann

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:

> I vote no.
>
> The nature of the Cuban government makes it impossible for us to know
> whether or not what we're saying is accurate.  It may well be true, but we
> just can't have a lot of confidence.  The problem is not limited to just
> these two libertarian activists.  It's a much broader problem of a
> communist dictatorship with secret courts, and many, many, many people in
> Cuba are victims of it, though there are also people there who do steal,
> murder, etc.  We could probably just change the names and issue a whole lot
> of similar statements about other Cuban prisoners, and we'd be right about
> some and wrong about some.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2017 at 1:49 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>
>>
>> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by February 24, 2017 at
>> 11:59:59pm Pacific time.*
>> *Co-Sponsors:*  Starchild, Harlos, Demarest, Vohra
>>
>> *Motion:*  The Libertarian National Committee condemns the unjust
>> detention of libertarian activists Ubaldo Herrera Hernandez and Manuel
>> Velasquez by agents of the Castro regime in Cuba on February 2, and demands
>> the immediate safe release of these political prisoners who were targeted
>> for their peaceful activism promoting limited government and free markets.
>> We further ask the U.S. government's State Department to place diplomatic
>> pressure on the Castro regime for their release, and encourage Libertarian
>> Party members and supporters to contact their elected officials toward that
>> end.
>>
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
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