[Lnc-business] For your consideration...(Cuban Prisoner Resolution)

[Sam Goldstein]

Patrick,

Exactly my thoughts on this issue.

Sam

Sam Goldstein
Libertarian National Committee
Member at Large
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On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm good with narrowing down to one
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 6:54 AM Whitney Bilyeu <whitneycb76 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I submit the following motion for consideration by the LNC:
>>
>>
>> *Motion:*  The Libertarian National Committee strongly opposes the
>> unjust arrest and detention of peaceful individuals.  The arrests on
>> February 2, 2017, and subsequent detention of libertarian activists, Ubaldo
>> Herrera Hernandez and Manuel Velazquez, in Cuba illustrate the threats to
>> freedom we all face around the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Libertarian Party calls on the Cuban government to immediately
>> release details of the above-mentioned arrests and detentions, including
>> the specific charges being levied against the individuals in question.  In
>> the absence of such information, we call for the release of these
>> prisoners.
>>
>>
>>
>> Libertarian activism worldwide must not be deterred by the attempts of
>> authoritarian leaders, totalitarian governments, and dictatorial regimes to
>> silence the voice of freedom.  We condemn any acts of official oppression,
>> and uphold the promotion of limited government and free markets in any
>> country.  Furthermore, we call on the U.S. Department of State to publicly
>> denounce violations of the right to free speech, the right to peaceably
>> assemble, and the right to due process abroad.
>>
>>
>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>
>> LNC - Region 7 Representative
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 6:56 AM, David Demarest <
>> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Alicia.
>>
>>
>>
>> Whitney and Caryn Ann, are you okay with narrowing this motion down to
>> one version?
>>
>>
>>
>> If so, Whitney, can you formally offer the following revised motion
>> incorporating the word “strongly” or reiterate your previous version using
>> the word “wholeheartedly”? I will co-sponsor and vote “YES” on either
>> version. Let’s formalize the final version being offered, solicit two more
>> co-sponsors and move on to an email vote. Whitney and Caryn Ann, how does
>> that work for you?
>>
>>
>>
>> The Libertarian National Committee strongly opposes the unjust arrest and
>> detention of peaceful individuals.  The arrests on February 2, 2017, and
>> subsequent detention of libertarian activists, Ubaldo Herrera Hernandez and
>> Manuel Velazquez, in Cuba illustrate the threats to freedom we all face
>> around the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Libertarian Party calls on the Cuban government to immediately
>> release details of the above-mentioned arrests and detentions, including
>> the specific charges being levied against the individuals in question.  In
>> the absence of such information, we call for the release of these
>> prisoners.
>>
>>
>>
>> Libertarian activism worldwide must not be deterred by the attempts of
>> authoritarian leaders, totalitarian governments, and dictatorial regimes to
>> silence the voice of freedom.  We condemn any acts of official oppression,
>> and uphold the promotion of limited government and free markets in any
>> country.  Furthermore, we call on the U.S. Department of State to publicly
>> denounce violations of the right to free speech, the right to peaceably
>> assemble, and the right to due process abroad.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> ~David
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dec 28-Jan 1 2017 Omaha Libertarian Strategy New Year’s Extravaganza*
>>
>>
>>
>> *Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE*
>>
>>
>>
>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>
>> LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
>>
>> Secretary, LPNE State Central Committee
>>
>> Cell:      402-981-6469 <(402)%20981-6469>
>>
>> Home: 402-493-0873 <(402)%20493-0873>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
>> Of *Alicia Mattson
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 3:31 AM
>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] For your consideration...(Cuban Prisoner
>> Resolution)
>>
>>
>>
>> David,
>>
>> None of the versions have achieved the 4 co-sponsors to become an email
>> ballot.  If you'll check back through the related threads, you'll find that:
>>
>> Joshua Katz offered an option.  Ms. Harlos wanted to co-sponsor only part
>> of it and then said she would offer a different version.  You said you may
>> co-sponsor part of it but would wait to see what Caryn Ann drafted.
>>
>> Caryn Ann then put a version out, which was co-sponsored by you and
>> Joshua.
>>
>> Whitney Bilyeu's version has been co-sponsored by you and Caryn Ann.
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:01 AM, David Demarest <
>> dprattdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Whitney!
>>
>>
>>
>> Alicia, where are we on co-sponsors or settling on a final revised
>> version?
>>
>>
>>
>> Let's get the necessary co-sponsors and vote before it becomes a moot
>> point.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017 12:52 PM, "Whitney Bilyeu" <whitneycb76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I agree with David's substitution of the word 'strongly'!
>>
>>
>>
>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 12:44 PM, David Demarest <
>> dprattdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I would substitute "strongly" for "wholeheartedly" but since both words
>> fail the emotional test (not a valid test from my perspective because
>> effective arguments connect at the emotional level first before moving on
>> to the objective level) which would suggest that neither should be used.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, in the interest of showing support for the two dissents in
>> question before they die of old age or we conclude this hair-splitting
>> semantics delaying tactic argument, whichever comes first, I will
>> co-sponsor Whitney's otherwise excellent wording of this motion.
>>
>>
>>
>> These debates are certainly (yes, emotional) enlightening but I am
>> concerned (again, emotional) that we will all die of old age before we
>> reach a consensus on important issues before it is too (emotional) late and
>> they become moot points.
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps we should focus instead on inspiring and empowering individual
>> grassroots Libertarians to go out and get stuff done without getting stuck
>> in the quicksand of institutional authoritarian consensus and bureaucratic
>> inertia.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 28, 2017 11:40 AM, "Whitney Bilyeu" <whitneycb76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> -----
>>
>> The Libertarian National Committee wholeheartedly opposes the unjust
>> arrest and detention of peaceful individuals.  The arrests on February 2,
>> 2017, and subsequent detention of libertarian activists, Ubaldo Herrera
>> Hernandez and Manuel Velazquez, in Cuba illustrate the threats to freedom
>> we all face around the world.
>>
>>
>>
>> The Libertarian Party calls on the Cuban government to immediately
>> release details of the above-mentioned arrests and detentions, including
>> the specific charges being levied against the individuals in question.  In
>> the absence of such information, we call for the release of these
>> prisoners.
>>
>>
>>
>> Libertarian activism worldwide must not be deterred by the attempts of
>> authoritarian leaders, totalitarian governments, and dictatorial regimes to
>> silence the voice of freedom.  We condemn any acts of official oppression,
>> and uphold the promotion of limited government and free markets in any
>> country.  Furthermore, we call on the U.S. Department of State to publicly
>> denounce violations of the right to free speech, the right to peaceably
>> assemble, and the right to due process abroad.
>>
>> ----
>>
>>
>>
>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>
>> Region 7 Rep
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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