[Lnc-business] For your consideration...(Cuban Prisoner Resolution)

Wed Mar 1 10:32:25 EST 2017

I am ready to tackle the domestic matters, as well!  What do we have in
mind?

Whitney

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:20 AM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Patrick,
>
> Exactly my thoughts on this issue.
>
> Sam
>
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> Member at Large
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> Indianapolis IN 46260
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>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:55 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
>> I'm good with narrowing down to one
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 6:54 AM Whitney Bilyeu <whitneycb76 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I submit the following motion for consideration by the LNC:
>>>
>>>
>>> *Motion:*  The Libertarian National Committee strongly opposes the
>>> unjust arrest and detention of peaceful individuals.  The arrests on
>>> February 2, 2017, and subsequent detention of libertarian activists, Ubaldo
>>> Herrera Hernandez and Manuel Velazquez, in Cuba illustrate the threats to
>>> freedom we all face around the world.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Libertarian Party calls on the Cuban government to immediately
>>> release details of the above-mentioned arrests and detentions, including
>>> the specific charges being levied against the individuals in question.  In
>>> the absence of such information, we call for the release of these
>>> prisoners.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Libertarian activism worldwide must not be deterred by the attempts of
>>> authoritarian leaders, totalitarian governments, and dictatorial regimes to
>>> silence the voice of freedom.  We condemn any acts of official oppression,
>>> and uphold the promotion of limited government and free markets in any
>>> country.  Furthermore, we call on the U.S. Department of State to publicly
>>> denounce violations of the right to free speech, the right to peaceably
>>> assemble, and the right to due process abroad.
>>>
>>>
>>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>>
>>> LNC - Region 7 Representative
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 6:56 AM, David Demarest <
>>> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Alicia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whitney and Caryn Ann, are you okay with narrowing this motion down to
>>> one version?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If so, Whitney, can you formally offer the following revised motion
>>> incorporating the word “strongly” or reiterate your previous version using
>>> the word “wholeheartedly”? I will co-sponsor and vote “YES” on either
>>> version. Let’s formalize the final version being offered, solicit two more
>>> co-sponsors and move on to an email vote. Whitney and Caryn Ann, how does
>>> that work for you?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Libertarian National Committee strongly opposes the unjust arrest
>>> and detention of peaceful individuals.  The arrests on February 2, 2017,
>>> and subsequent detention of libertarian activists, Ubaldo Herrera Hernandez
>>> and Manuel Velazquez, in Cuba illustrate the threats to freedom we all face
>>> around the world.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Libertarian Party calls on the Cuban government to immediately
>>> release details of the above-mentioned arrests and detentions, including
>>> the specific charges being levied against the individuals in question.  In
>>> the absence of such information, we call for the release of these
>>> prisoners.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Libertarian activism worldwide must not be deterred by the attempts of
>>> authoritarian leaders, totalitarian governments, and dictatorial regimes to
>>> silence the voice of freedom.  We condemn any acts of official oppression,
>>> and uphold the promotion of limited government and free markets in any
>>> country.  Furthermore, we call on the U.S. Department of State to publicly
>>> denounce violations of the right to free speech, the right to peaceably
>>> assemble, and the right to due process abroad.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~David
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Dec 28-Jan 1 2017 Omaha Libertarian Strategy New Year’s Extravaganza*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Celebrate Life, Set the Bar High and LIVE FREE*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>>
>>> LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
>>>
>>> Secretary, LPNE State Central Committee
>>>
>>> Cell:      402-981-6469 <(402)%20981-6469>
>>>
>>> Home: 402-493-0873 <(402)%20493-0873>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
>>> Of *Alicia Mattson
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 3:31 AM
>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] For your consideration...(Cuban Prisoner
>>> Resolution)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David,
>>>
>>> None of the versions have achieved the 4 co-sponsors to become an email
>>> ballot.  If you'll check back through the related threads, you'll find that:
>>>
>>> Joshua Katz offered an option.  Ms. Harlos wanted to co-sponsor only
>>> part of it and then said she would offer a different version.  You said you
>>> may co-sponsor part of it but would wait to see what Caryn Ann drafted.
>>>
>>> Caryn Ann then put a version out, which was co-sponsored by you and
>>> Joshua.
>>>
>>> Whitney Bilyeu's version has been co-sponsored by you and Caryn Ann.
>>>
>>> -Alicia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 11:01 AM, David Demarest <
>>> dprattdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Whitney!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Alicia, where are we on co-sponsors or settling on a final revised
>>> version?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let's get the necessary co-sponsors and vote before it becomes a moot
>>> point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2017 12:52 PM, "Whitney Bilyeu" <whitneycb76 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree with David's substitution of the word 'strongly'!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 28, 2017 at 12:44 PM, David Demarest <
>>> dprattdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I would substitute "strongly" for "wholeheartedly" but since both words
>>> fail the emotional test (not a valid test from my perspective because
>>> effective arguments connect at the emotional level first before moving on
>>> to the objective level) which would suggest that neither should be used.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, in the interest of showing support for the two dissents in
>>> question before they die of old age or we conclude this hair-splitting
>>> semantics delaying tactic argument, whichever comes first, I will
>>> co-sponsor Whitney's otherwise excellent wording of this motion.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These debates are certainly (yes, emotional) enlightening but I am
>>> concerned (again, emotional) that we will all die of old age before we
>>> reach a consensus on important issues before it is too (emotional) late and
>>> they become moot points.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps we should focus instead on inspiring and empowering individual
>>> grassroots Libertarians to go out and get stuff done without getting stuck
>>> in the quicksand of institutional authoritarian consensus and bureaucratic
>>> inertia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 28, 2017 11:40 AM, "Whitney Bilyeu" <whitneycb76 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> -----
>>>
>>> The Libertarian National Committee wholeheartedly opposes the unjust
>>> arrest and detention of peaceful individuals.  The arrests on February 2,
>>> 2017, and subsequent detention of libertarian activists, Ubaldo Herrera
>>> Hernandez and Manuel Velazquez, in Cuba illustrate the threats to freedom
>>> we all face around the world.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The Libertarian Party calls on the Cuban government to immediately
>>> release details of the above-mentioned arrests and detentions, including
>>> the specific charges being levied against the individuals in question.  In
>>> the absence of such information, we call for the release of these
>>> prisoners.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Libertarian activism worldwide must not be deterred by the attempts of
>>> authoritarian leaders, totalitarian governments, and dictatorial regimes to
>>> silence the voice of freedom.  We condemn any acts of official oppression,
>>> and uphold the promotion of limited government and free markets in any
>>> country.  Furthermore, we call on the U.S. Department of State to publicly
>>> denounce violations of the right to free speech, the right to peaceably
>>> assemble, and the right to due process abroad.
>>>
>>> ----
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Whitney Bilyeu
>>>
>>> Region 7 Rep
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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