[Lnc-business] Platform and Bylaws application

Mon Mar 6 00:32:19 EST 2017

Tim, they DO have that option.  They can discuss anything they want to.

-Alicia

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 8:37 PM, Tim Hagan <timhagan-tyr at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is the cheeseburger in the Happy Meal made with green cheese?
>
> I would also support having an option for applicants for the Platform
> Committee to discuss political philosophy. On the other hand, it's not a
> factor that I would consider for the Bylaws Committee.
>
> Tim Hagan
>
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> *From:* Aaron Starr <starrcpa at gmail.com>
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 5, 2017 7:59 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Platform and Bylaws application
>
> Colleagues,
>
> Since my name came up, I figured I would respond.
>
> If there is one thing we have no shortage of in this party, it is people
> who know philosophy. That’s especially true with people who want to serve
> on a Platform Committee. Where we *do* have a shortage is in people who
> will actually do work and who can turn an idea into a well-crafted written
> proposal stated in grammatically correct English.
>
> When I mentioned having applicants write a proposal about “green cheese” I
> wasn’t suggesting that we ask applicants to come up with a platform
> proposal on that particular topic. My main point was that I want to see
> them put forward a written proposal, any proposal. Of course, if they
> actually do submit a proposal on green cheese, I will likely conclude that
> the applicant is several fries short of a Happy Meal.
>
> Aaron Starr
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> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 05, 2017 6:26 PM
> *To:* Libertarian National Committee list
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Platform and Bylaws application
>
> Whitney, it might for the one item they propose but that is one item that
> might be minor and not really philosophically based.  And as Aaron said
> during the meeting, the proposal could be about "green cheese" (I believe
> that was his example but if not exactly, it is similar) - it was to prove
> they could put a thought together.
>
> A sample proposal itself is pretty limited and just because one proposal
> might be a bit "off" they still could have a good grasp but need some
> guidance on what is appropriate fodder for a platform.
>
> Some people when in a productive group, as long as they have a foundation,
> can be focused as long as they have the principles.
>
> And this is precisely the discussion I wanted - thank you so much for your
> input.
>
> - Caryn Ann
>
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:23 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Whitney I prefer my wording, but am open to a discussion. And yes I agree
> - optional - just like all of the other items.  My original position was
> required, and then seeing the proposed application language, I compromised
> to "optional" in an attempt to work things out.
>
> What libertarianism means to someone can be different from what is
> relevant to the platform.  That is what is wonderful about it - there is a
> lot of freedom in personal application.
>
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <whitneycb76 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> Regardless of what transpired between the members involved so far, I could
> support the inclusion of an OPTIONAL item regarding the applicant's basic
> understanding of our Party's principles.
>
> Could it could be as simple as "Briefly describe what libertarianism means
> to you...."?
>
> Whitney
>
>
> On Mar 5, 2017 1:13 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Fellow members
>
> Last LNC meeting we decided to solicit applications for the LNC appointed
> members of the Bylaws and Platform Committees and some discussion arose on
> what should be included in the application request.  The final
> responsibility for getting a notice out and organizing responses lies with
> the Party Secretary but Nick directed that as far as content that we should
> work it out amongst ourselves.  To that end I volunteered to work with
> Alicia.  We have communicated but I am not satisfied that the result was
> working it out amongst ourselves. The result was that nothing was
> substantially changed from years past.
>
> Arvin and I (and I believe at least Starchild and David concur) believe
> that a request for a brief understanding of Libertarian philosophy should
> be included.  I softened that request to be in line with the way the form
> is currently written to be a "suggestion" (rather than a requirement)  for
> such along with other suggestions that the applicant could choose among.
> This was rejected and I just don't think that is a reasonable way to work
> it out amongst ourselves.  The result is no different than if I didn't
> volunteer input.
>
> I would like other members to weigh in on this.  I'm not trying to be
> difficult but I just don't think reasonable requests should be summarily
> rejected.
>
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> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
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