[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-06: Move Archive Records to CO

Fri Mar 24 12:40:09 EDT 2017

I have a bunch of commentary to add that I will take one at a time.

Daniel, that is exactly what I was thinking.  I think this Committee may
find some auction items and may be able to put together a nice historical
interest display, and you might want to consider having one of us speak.

-Caryn Ann

On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 10:24 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
wrote:

> Us finally throwing away a bunch of sacred invoices and other magical
> papers and stuff we don't need was my motivation to sponsor .  It might
> take 5 years to recoup but it is money we can save.
>
> Also, keep in mind that if we can monetize some of this stuff, even
> better.  As Sam and a couple of others know, we are looking to hold a
> silent auction at convention in NOLA.  Caryn Ann may find some things that
> we don't want to throw away but don't have space to display that a member
> might have interest in.  I'd rather see us put some cash to the use this
> party exists for and allow a member to have some enjoyment instead of
> sticking it in a box on a shelf.  One person's junk is another person's
> treasure.
>
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 24, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Actually, if Caryn Ann does a good enough job, we should no longer need an
> off-site storage unit. The unit we're in now just went up to $248 per month
> starting in March 2018 (up about $20 from February).
>
> William Redpath, can you calculate the Prevent Value of the saving of $248
> per month in perpetuity?
>
> And if you can do that, can you then get a bit more precise by making the
> assumption the $248 per month spending won't stop for 2 years?
>
> Thanks Bill, that'd be great.
>
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314(202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <(202)%20333-0008>, wes.benedict at lp.orgfacebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
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> On 3/24/2017 11:43 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>
> Around 300 boxes with the miscellaneous "slips of paper" have been
> shredded since 2013. I spent many days on that work myself doing a first
> and second pass through the mountain of junk in the cool, damp,
> rat-infested dungeon storage underneath the Watergate complex, and then
> doing 3rd and 4th passes at our storage units after moving the stuff to
> Alexandria. (I did not shred the stuff myself--just identified the boxes
> and then had a professional service handle it).
>
> I am not exaggerating about the rats. I do not recall finding dead rats in
> any boxes and did not necessarily see rats inside our particular unit, but
> there were dead dried out rat carcasses less than 20 feet outside the door
> to our unit and in the hallway leading up to our unit and inside adjacent
> units.
>
> In addition to things that have been shredded, I did not count the number
> of boxes of stuff that I threw away that did not need to be shredded. I
> also personally tore apart, dismantled, and sawed when necessary (with my
> personal Bosch circular saws and drill), large painted plywood structures
> that I think were used in the 2000 and 2004 national conventions (along
> with the wooden pallets).
>
> For a decade, it seemed, no one was willing to throw things away. I can't
> blame them. Who wants to throw something away when someone might complain
> later? Plus, it's easier to just box up an old employees stuff and push it
> aside rather than go through it and sort it all out.  The result was
> valuable things were getting buried by old broken furniture and useless
> pieces of returned mail slips that had no value. Boxes of potentially
> valuable documents were getting crushed and split and were spilling in the
> damp basement of the Watergate. The basement of the Watergate obviously
> wasn't climate controlled and the storage facilities were down an
> underground hallway from the dumpsters for CVS and the grocery store
> Safeway, and just 200 yard crawl for rats from the shores of the Potomac.
> Grocery stores generate a lot of smelly garbage that attracts rats.
>
> For the most part, I did not go through many individual boxes and sort
> through individual pieces of stuff. I either kept the whole box, or through
> the whole box out (or shredded if necessary).
>
> We still have over a dozen 4-drawer file cabinets and maybe 100 boxes of
> stuff that needs to be gone through more carefully. That takes a lot of
> time. When it's time to bring the stuff back from Colorado, I expect the
> content to be 15% of it's original size. That's because there is still
> stuff to throw away, and also, for things like fundraising letters that
> were sent in 1992--there are probably 5 or 10 copies of each.
>
> That stuff is getting older every day, but at least we now have it stored
> in a climate controlled storage unit in Alexandria, instead of the basement
> of the Watergate.
>
> I probably inadvertently  threw some things out that we wished I hadn't,
> but I feel like my actions to jettison some garbage even if there was some
> collateral damage, was urgent, and necessary for the greater good of the
> documents that were saved, and because we needed space for our more recent
> documents.
>
> A few photos attached.
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232 <(202)%20333-0008>, wes.benedict at lp.org
> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
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>
> On 3/24/2017 4:43 AM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
>
> Having spent some time digging through these materials a few years ago, I
> know there are a LOT of boxes of old membership forms with hand-written
> signatures on the membership certification.  I don't imagine those going
> online for the world to see, so why ship 50 boxes to Colorado and back?
>
> I don't recall a terribly high percentage of those files being things that
> are of historical value that would belong in an online archive.  Some of it
> was, but much was not.  Old invoices and vendor contracts.  Miscellaneous
> contents of the desk drawers of former employees.  Is there really enough
> historical material to fill a UHaul?
>
>
>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

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