[Lnc-business] New Committee does not resolve the problem

Ken Moellman lpky at mu-net.org
Tue Apr 18 01:00:54 EDT 2017 

I had written a lengthy response.  Then I realized it didn't matter.

At least Satan and the Pauls know where Aleppo is.

ken


On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:01 PM, David Demarest <dprattdemarest at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ken, I could not agree more about the immediate need to resolve the issue
> of our "currently-undefined messaging strategy". I hope that other LNC
> members will reflect on your astute observation and choose to proactively
> pursue a readily available and cost-effective solution from a dedicated
> Libertarian messaging strategy firm.
>
> Just as important and in a similar spirit, we individual Libertarians can
> set an example for each other by ensuring that our personal messaging
> strategy houses are in order.
>
> I personally pledge to refrain from emotional responses to internal
> controversies with inappropriate unconstructive actions including but not
> limited to publicizing to the broader audience threats to resign from the
> party based on perceived affronts to my personal beliefs. While actions
> like this might provide short-term gratification, I recognize that such
> self-serving hubbubs could have unintended consequences far greater than
> the original controversies.
>
> Ken, thank you again for calling to our attention the need for
> comprehensive personal and institutional messaging strategy reform. I will
> be glad to work with you to facilitate an institutional messaging strategy
> initiative and encourage others who share your vision to join us in this
> timely and critical undertaking.
>
> On Apr 17, 2017 4:33 PM, "Ken Moellman" <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>
> From what I saw, there was basically no immediate action or change. I'm
> sure there will be far more eyes on things for a bit, because of the
> hubbub. I just would have felt a lot more comfortable if we had put staff
> in as the final check and balance.  It brings accountability. It's
> definitive, quantitative action (we now have paid staff, who are
> accountable to the party, in charge of final review).  Long term, I think
> there needs to be some group that manages all social media, after
> developing a strategy that is in-line with our currently-undefined
> marketing strategy.
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Immediately is over the course of the weekend.  Chair Sarwark indicated
>> he would and has already informed the volunteers of this.  He made this
>> announcement right after check out recess.
>>
>> I do think (not necessarily you) there is an agenda of factionalizing
>> messaging, and it is being covered in buzzwords (again not you) but instead
>> of calling it factionalizing, we are calling it "bad."
>>
>> There has been a push to centrize and "moderate" our message from our
>> origins and it continues.  And I see this being used as an opportunistic
>> way to continue.
>>
>> Yes, there is a problem.  Yes, it needs to be fixed.   BUT I am concerned
>> poison pills are being slipped in.
>>
>> The only faction I care about is the Statement of Principles.  And not
>> being embarassed by what this Party has stood for for over forty years.
>> Like taxation is theft.  Not just income taxation.  Taxation.  Can we
>> explain better why?  Yes.  And we must.
>>
>> On the inbox, APRC does not review the inbox and never has.  THAT is a
>> problem.  And I don't think Volunteers unless appointed and trained
>> directly by and oversaw by APRC, staff, or the Chair should be doing that
>> unless it is just linking to an official document.
>>
>> You and I are of one mind on that issue.  Though we have some volunteers
>> fantastic at it, they need more oversight by staff or someone.  THAT is a
>> big hole.  I agree.
>>
>> - Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>>
>>> No, that is not a factual record of what happened. There was no actual
>>> action taken immediately. There was hours of debate, and then we skipped
>>> over that immediate action part in the second paragraph and moved on to the
>>> third - the internal review process.
>>>
>>> I certainly have no interest in factionalizing messaging. I do think a
>>> series of checks and balances with diverse interests represented would mean
>>> that nothing bad slips through, or, if it does, then everyone's at fault.
>>> It might also help ensure that the messaging is acceptable to all factions.
>>>
>>> I wonder if the FB volunteers are still responding directly to people
>>> via Private Messaging without any APRC oversight.
>>>
>>> I am seeing the mention of satanism in the comments on almost every FB
>>> post since the incident.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Libertarian Party made a gaffe last week with a religiously
>>>> controversial post last week.  *After the incident*, the Party Chair
>>>> Nicholas Sarwark announced to the Libertarian National Committee that he
>>>> would be taking interim measures to be sure no such thing repeats while a
>>>> committee is convened to recommend better safeguards and to move the LP's
>>>> social media into the future.  *This is a change to be sure that
>>>> incidents like this do not re-occur.*
>>>>
>>>> ************
>>>>
>>>> We handled it just right IMHO.  I was concerned, and remain so, that
>>>> this is a backdoor attempt to factionalize messaging that has continually
>>>> happened for years and I will fight that.  However, I do believe we need
>>>> better policies and practices.  I offer to unofficially assist this
>>>> committee at any opportunity.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> **********
>>>>
>>>> I once again thank the LNC for their hard work.
>>>>
>>>> I urge us to appoint people on the current social media team on that
>>>> committee and not JUST people who will further make this seem like a power
>>>> grab for messaging.  I believe I am disqualified as an LNC member but I
>>>> have recommendations (unfortunately I think it should include Patrick and I
>>>> who I think are both disqualified).  Anyways disqualified or not, I hope
>>>> the volunteers are consulted or this will be viewed as a top-down mistake.  *MATT
>>>> HASTY should definitely be on this committee.*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:04 AM, Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How most react to negative press:  http://finance.yahoo.com/news
>>>>> /couple-says-were-kicked-off-185755927.html
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (emphasis added)
>>>>>
>>>>> United has been engulfed by controversy since a viral video emerged
>>>>> depicting 69-year-old David Dao
>>>>> <http://www.businessinsider.com/united-airlines-passenger-dragged-from-flight-name-2017-4> being
>>>>> violently dragged off a United Airlines flight after refusing to give up
>>>>> his seat to make room for crew members. Dao sustained injuries and plans
>>>>> to file a lawsuit
>>>>> <http://www.businessinsider.com/man-dragged-from-united-airlines-flight-will-file-lawsuit-2017-4> against
>>>>> the airline.
>>>>>
>>>>> *After the incident* involving Dao,* United enacted a new rule*
>>>>> stipulating that crew members will no longer be allowed to displace
>>>>> passengers already on board the plane, the Associated Press reported.
>>>>>
>>>>> United spokeswoman Maggie Schmerin said in an email to the AP on
>>>>> Sunday that *the change is an initial step in a review of policies
>>>>> and it's meant to ensure that situations like Dao's never happen again*
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am being ruthlessly and visciousky attacked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No good deed goes unpunished.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I knkw what I did and everyone on this body knows I defended the
>>>>>> volunteers.  I'm deeply saddened but I don't regret doing so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:38 AM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah, I saw that you're being attacked. Interestingly, but not
>>>>>>> surprising, by the same person I've received multiple reports from as being
>>>>>>> part of the problem with the current configuration.  My guess is that the
>>>>>>> person know they're being a problem, thinks this ends with them being
>>>>>>> reeled in, and so now they're lashing out.  But that's just a guess on my
>>>>>>> part.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As one more metric, I was pointed to the number of Likes versus
>>>>>>> Follows and apparently that ratio is bad.  So while we have a lot of likes,
>>>>>>> we also have a lot of un-follows.  But it'll be 4 months before we
>>>>>>> officially do nothing, anyway.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Im done too.  For all My all my defense of the volunteers I'm now
>>>>>>>> the bad guy .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You and I disagree on very little Ken.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:22 AM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty much done with the topic. I don't know what I'm going
>>>>>>>>> to do next, other than post that it may be a good idea, in marketing, to
>>>>>>>>> consider the audience.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Nick assured us it was not.  Staff is not even answering all
>>>>>>>>>> emails.  Scheduling is not as easy or quick as all that and likes it or
>>>>>>>>>> not, believes me or not, you will lose the volunteers.  I'm rethinking
>>>>>>>>>> whether I stil want to volunteer seeing how dismissive some things have
>>>>>>>>>> been.  Some may be think oh well.  Ask Matt or Nick how much I do.  Better
>>>>>>>>>> yet ask affiliates about the good will.  But we are willing to flush myself
>>>>>>>>>> and dozens of others work down the toilet.  That's not OK.  (We do need a
>>>>>>>>>> management structure - that us abundantly clear - without a doubt)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I love itnso I doubt I will stop.  But I would hope we have
>>>>>>>>>> concern for everyone not just the "important" people.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Volunteers are not gopher grunt slaves.  Not beimg worried about
>>>>>>>>>> algorithms just says the work the volunteers did for years is meaningless.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Timing is not the smallest part of the problem though there are
>>>>>>>>>> others I will only say in executive session per our rules.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The whole comment on the APRC is illplaced.  We mostly check
>>>>>>>>>> messages from or suggested by STAFF and without violating confidentiality,
>>>>>>>>>> there is a reject rate.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Facebook succeeds not by being safe and NOT by the false
>>>>>>>>>> narrative we are centrist.  Our Stament of Principles is bold.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do I think it requires the devil? No,  God no.  But I see this as
>>>>>>>>>> being used to do exactly what you are talking about- factional pettiness.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good news- all sides are mad at me,  I'm doing it right.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We are not a safe Party.  And to quote a famous fictional
>>>>>>>>>> general, affiliates will rebel.  The more we try to control things overly
>>>>>>>>>> much, the more star systems will slip through our fingers.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 11:40 PM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There was a concern about an "undue burden" on staff, but was
>>>>>>>>>>> staff even consulted, or is this just a justification?  Benedict made it
>>>>>>>>>>> clear in the meeting that staff used to run the FB account.  You schedule
>>>>>>>>>>> FB posts ahead of time, so one staff member could look at all the content
>>>>>>>>>>> that the volunteers create and simply be in charge of scheduling it within
>>>>>>>>>>> FB.  Nothing changes except creating a final check on the situation.
>>>>>>>>>>> Doherty made it clear that bad marketing hurts the party.  Ask the others
>>>>>>>>>>> what they think.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not even worried about the FB algorithms at this point.
>>>>>>>>>>> Before we even get to that level, I'm worried about what's being said by a
>>>>>>>>>>> group of volunteers in the name of the party.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've received messages from people who are and were in that
>>>>>>>>>>> group of volunteers, as I've mentioned before, who think things are being
>>>>>>>>>>> badly mismanaged and messages controlled to meet agendas of others with no
>>>>>>>>>>> title or role.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The Satanic Temple thing was timing, sure.  Timing is one part
>>>>>>>>>>> of the problem.  It's the smallest part of the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The core purpose of the APRC is to prevent messages from going
>>>>>>>>>>> out in our name that are off-platform.  That's true.  But let's ask the
>>>>>>>>>>> question -- why?  Why would it ever be necessary to do that?  Because we're
>>>>>>>>>>> all volunteers, and people have their personal axes they like to grind. The
>>>>>>>>>>> entire premise is to stop things from going out that would hurt the party.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, we are doing nothing. The status quo remains for 4
>>>>>>>>>>> months.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry is right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I see an agenda here to strike at making a "centrist" party
>>>>>>>>>>>> once again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> All I can say is that I see it and will strenuously oppose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are NOT centrists.  We are Libertarians and pushing the edge
>>>>>>>>>>>> IS part if our job.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 9:15 PM Larry Sharpe <
>>>>>>>>>>>> lsharpe at neo-sage.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just an opinion to take into consideration: The reason for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> huge backlash on the Satanic post was timing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> As many of you have heard me preach, emotion and culture
>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter. We just came off the "pro-choice on everything" event, that made
>>>>>>>>>>>>> many people feel unhappy. They saw it as an attack on their culture. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>> then we responded with logical reasons for its validity. Logical responses
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to emotional concerns rarely work. Accordingly, many of them were still
>>>>>>>>>>>>> emotionally raw. Then during Easter week the Satanic Pic was posted. And of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, many people again responded with logical reasons as to why it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> acceptable. This felt like more disrespect and a pile-on attack to their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> culture.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this Satanic pic had come out in July or August (and we had
>>>>>>>>>>>>> no similar instances in the meantime), this would have been a minor blip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, just my opinion. I hope it's helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS - Yes, Joshua, that 5% was a nice gesture and I am pleased.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for acknowledging my emotions. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Joshua Katz <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with roughly 3/4 of Steven's email.  (To please Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sharpe, I will increase it to 80%.)  I will leave it as a mystery which 3/4
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Steven Nekhaila <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steven.nekhaila at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The APRC is beyond its scope of duty if it is going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitoring posts, creating a marketing strategy, etc. That is why this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee was founded and it will tally up our shortcomings and identify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our opportunities while allowing us to double down on our strengths. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not a committee to investigate the APRC, this committee will review all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of our social media practices and evaluate our current strategies which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will come back to the LNC as a report so we can take meaningful, effective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action in the proper direction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we were to simply put the staff in charge of vetting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts it would be an undue burden, and more importantly it may not yield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the effective results we are looking for. Social media is very complex and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involves proprietary algorithms, while also varying from platform to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform, we need to keep our aces in their places while also looking for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunities to improve brand protection and messaging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By having a committee study our social media assets and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedures and returning a report to the LNC we will be able to uncover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunities that we may not know exist and expound on solutions. I hope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can have confidence in us to bring something substantial to the table
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come next meeting or before, this will not be taken lightly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of attacking the situation with a hatchet, let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approach it with a scalpel, keep our teams motivated, and use this as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learning opportunity. I just ask you to trust our judgement and understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we share your concerns.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven Nekhaila
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 2 Representative Alt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 305-393-6412 <(305)%20393-6412>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Boxer | http://getboxer.com <http://bxr.io/PBI3C>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On April 16, 2017 at 5:11:26 PM EDT, Ken Moellman <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After my family events today, I returned to watch the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> segment of the LNC meeting, which includes the creation of the committee to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review how we're using Facebook.  I continue to have grave concerns about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.  We are not changing the status quo.  When most organizations make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant mistake due to some sort of internal failing, they send in a "crisis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> management" team to take immediate action to handle the situation - to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle the external marketing and the internal procedure improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, we just create yet another committee to study it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  We have "only" had 2 posts with very negative response,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there have been other bad posts as well. This motion does not prevent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this from continuing. Nothing has been done to stop this behavior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  We have FB volunteers communicating directly with people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> via FB private messaging, responding to negative comments. There is, to my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> understanding, no APRC oversight or approval on these communications that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come across to the recipient as from "Libertarian Party".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. We have no marketing strategy. There's no messaging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no marketing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. We have no specific social media strategy.  The first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step would be to have a messaging and marketing strategy, and then to apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that strategy within the realm of social media.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simply put, creating a committee to review an existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee (APRC) who reviews another committee (FB Admins) who reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another committee (FB Volunteers) is not a solution.  It is an attempt to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punt and gloss over a glaring problem with the party.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can spend hundreds of hours pushing ballot access. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend hundreds of hours doing IT projects. No amount of foundation work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matters when we intentionally allow the negligent burning down of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure upon which its built.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am currently re-evaluating my role in the party and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount of time I dedicate to the organization.  Maybe it's my political
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mid-life crisis. I just have to question why I kill myself for an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization that kills itself by refusing to not allow itself to be killed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Larry Sharpe*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *The Neo-Sage Group, Inc.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://TheNeoSage.com/ <http://theneosage.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/TheNeoSageGroup>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/TheNeoSage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/neosage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *https://www.facebook.com/neosage
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/neosage>*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *212-307-3545 <212-307-3545>*
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
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>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
>>
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