[Lnc-business] New Committee does not resolve the problem

Tue Apr 18 01:35:03 EDT 2017

Satan certainly does.

-Caryn Ann

On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:01 PM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:

> I had written a lengthy response.  Then I realized it didn't matter.
>
> At least Satan and the Pauls know where Aleppo is.
>
> ken
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:01 PM, David Demarest <dprattdemarest at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ken, I could not agree more about the immediate need to resolve the issue
>> of our "currently-undefined messaging strategy". I hope that other LNC
>> members will reflect on your astute observation and choose to proactively
>> pursue a readily available and cost-effective solution from a dedicated
>> Libertarian messaging strategy firm.
>>
>> Just as important and in a similar spirit, we individual Libertarians can
>> set an example for each other by ensuring that our personal messaging
>> strategy houses are in order.
>>
>> I personally pledge to refrain from emotional responses to internal
>> controversies with inappropriate unconstructive actions including but not
>> limited to publicizing to the broader audience threats to resign from the
>> party based on perceived affronts to my personal beliefs. While actions
>> like this might provide short-term gratification, I recognize that such
>> self-serving hubbubs could have unintended consequences far greater than
>> the original controversies.
>>
>> Ken, thank you again for calling to our attention the need for
>> comprehensive personal and institutional messaging strategy reform. I will
>> be glad to work with you to facilitate an institutional messaging strategy
>> initiative and encourage others who share your vision to join us in this
>> timely and critical undertaking.
>>
>> On Apr 17, 2017 4:33 PM, "Ken Moellman" <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>>
>> From what I saw, there was basically no immediate action or change. I'm
>> sure there will be far more eyes on things for a bit, because of the
>> hubbub. I just would have felt a lot more comfortable if we had put staff
>> in as the final check and balance.  It brings accountability. It's
>> definitive, quantitative action (we now have paid staff, who are
>> accountable to the party, in charge of final review).  Long term, I think
>> there needs to be some group that manages all social media, after
>> developing a strategy that is in-line with our currently-undefined
>> marketing strategy.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Immediately is over the course of the weekend.  Chair Sarwark indicated
>>> he would and has already informed the volunteers of this.  He made this
>>> announcement right after check out recess.
>>>
>>> I do think (not necessarily you) there is an agenda of factionalizing
>>> messaging, and it is being covered in buzzwords (again not you) but instead
>>> of calling it factionalizing, we are calling it "bad."
>>>
>>> There has been a push to centrize and "moderate" our message from our
>>> origins and it continues.  And I see this being used as an opportunistic
>>> way to continue.
>>>
>>> Yes, there is a problem.  Yes, it needs to be fixed.   BUT I am
>>> concerned poison pills are being slipped in.
>>>
>>> The only faction I care about is the Statement of Principles.  And not
>>> being embarassed by what this Party has stood for for over forty years.
>>> Like taxation is theft.  Not just income taxation.  Taxation.  Can we
>>> explain better why?  Yes.  And we must.
>>>
>>> On the inbox, APRC does not review the inbox and never has.  THAT is a
>>> problem.  And I don't think Volunteers unless appointed and trained
>>> directly by and oversaw by APRC, staff, or the Chair should be doing that
>>> unless it is just linking to an official document.
>>>
>>> You and I are of one mind on that issue.  Though we have some volunteers
>>> fantastic at it, they need more oversight by staff or someone.  THAT is a
>>> big hole.  I agree.
>>>
>>> - Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> No, that is not a factual record of what happened. There was no actual
>>>> action taken immediately. There was hours of debate, and then we skipped
>>>> over that immediate action part in the second paragraph and moved on to the
>>>> third - the internal review process.
>>>>
>>>> I certainly have no interest in factionalizing messaging. I do think a
>>>> series of checks and balances with diverse interests represented would mean
>>>> that nothing bad slips through, or, if it does, then everyone's at fault.
>>>> It might also help ensure that the messaging is acceptable to all factions.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder if the FB volunteers are still responding directly to people
>>>> via Private Messaging without any APRC oversight.
>>>>
>>>> I am seeing the mention of satanism in the comments on almost every FB
>>>> post since the incident.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The Libertarian Party made a gaffe last week with a religiously
>>>>> controversial post last week.  *After the incident*, the Party Chair
>>>>> Nicholas Sarwark announced to the Libertarian National Committee that he
>>>>> would be taking interim measures to be sure no such thing repeats while a
>>>>> committee is convened to recommend better safeguards and to move the LP's
>>>>> social media into the future.  *This is a change to be sure that
>>>>> incidents like this do not re-occur.*
>>>>>
>>>>> ************
>>>>>
>>>>> We handled it just right IMHO.  I was concerned, and remain so, that
>>>>> this is a backdoor attempt to factionalize messaging that has continually
>>>>> happened for years and I will fight that.  However, I do believe we need
>>>>> better policies and practices.  I offer to unofficially assist this
>>>>> committee at any opportunity.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> **********
>>>>>
>>>>> I once again thank the LNC for their hard work.
>>>>>
>>>>> I urge us to appoint people on the current social media team on that
>>>>> committee and not JUST people who will further make this seem like a power
>>>>> grab for messaging.  I believe I am disqualified as an LNC member but I
>>>>> have recommendations (unfortunately I think it should include Patrick and I
>>>>> who I think are both disqualified).  Anyways disqualified or not, I hope
>>>>> the volunteers are consulted or this will be viewed as a top-down mistake.  *MATT
>>>>> HASTY should definitely be on this committee.*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:04 AM, Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> How most react to negative press:
>>>>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/couple-says-were-kicked-off-185755927.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (emphasis added)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> United has been engulfed by controversy since a viral video emerged
>>>>>> depicting 69-year-old David Dao
>>>>>> <http://www.businessinsider.com/united-airlines-passenger-dragged-from-flight-name-2017-4> being
>>>>>> violently dragged off a United Airlines flight after refusing to give up
>>>>>> his seat to make room for crew members. Dao sustained injuries and plans
>>>>>> to file a lawsuit
>>>>>> <http://www.businessinsider.com/man-dragged-from-united-airlines-flight-will-file-lawsuit-2017-4> against
>>>>>> the airline.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *After the incident* involving Dao,* United enacted a new rule*
>>>>>> stipulating that crew members will no longer be allowed to displace
>>>>>> passengers already on board the plane, the Associated Press reported.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> United spokeswoman Maggie Schmerin said in an email to the AP on
>>>>>> Sunday that *the change is an initial step in a review of policies
>>>>>> and it's meant to ensure that situations like Dao's never happen again*
>>>>>> .
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am being ruthlessly and visciousky attacked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No good deed goes unpunished.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I knkw what I did and everyone on this body knows I defended the
>>>>>>> volunteers.  I'm deeply saddened but I don't regret doing so.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:38 AM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah, I saw that you're being attacked. Interestingly, but not
>>>>>>>> surprising, by the same person I've received multiple reports from as being
>>>>>>>> part of the problem with the current configuration.  My guess is that the
>>>>>>>> person know they're being a problem, thinks this ends with them being
>>>>>>>> reeled in, and so now they're lashing out.  But that's just a guess on my
>>>>>>>> part.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As one more metric, I was pointed to the number of Likes versus
>>>>>>>> Follows and apparently that ratio is bad.  So while we have a lot of likes,
>>>>>>>> we also have a lot of un-follows.  But it'll be 4 months before we
>>>>>>>> officially do nothing, anyway.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Im done too.  For all My all my defense of the volunteers I'm now
>>>>>>>>> the bad guy .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You and I disagree on very little Ken.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:22 AM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty much done with the topic. I don't know what I'm going
>>>>>>>>>> to do next, other than post that it may be a good idea, in marketing, to
>>>>>>>>>> consider the audience.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Nick assured us it was not.  Staff is not even answering all
>>>>>>>>>>> emails.  Scheduling is not as easy or quick as all that and likes it or
>>>>>>>>>>> not, believes me or not, you will lose the volunteers.  I'm rethinking
>>>>>>>>>>> whether I stil want to volunteer seeing how dismissive some things have
>>>>>>>>>>> been.  Some may be think oh well.  Ask Matt or Nick how much I do.  Better
>>>>>>>>>>> yet ask affiliates about the good will.  But we are willing to flush myself
>>>>>>>>>>> and dozens of others work down the toilet.  That's not OK.  (We do need a
>>>>>>>>>>> management structure - that us abundantly clear - without a doubt)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I love itnso I doubt I will stop.  But I would hope we have
>>>>>>>>>>> concern for everyone not just the "important" people.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Volunteers are not gopher grunt slaves.  Not beimg worried about
>>>>>>>>>>> algorithms just says the work the volunteers did for years is meaningless.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Timing is not the smallest part of the problem though there are
>>>>>>>>>>> others I will only say in executive session per our rules.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The whole comment on the APRC is illplaced.  We mostly check
>>>>>>>>>>> messages from or suggested by STAFF and without violating confidentiality,
>>>>>>>>>>> there is a reject rate.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook succeeds not by being safe and NOT by the false
>>>>>>>>>>> narrative we are centrist.  Our Stament of Principles is bold.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Do I think it requires the devil? No,  God no.  But I see this
>>>>>>>>>>> as being used to do exactly what you are talking about- factional pettiness.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good news- all sides are mad at me,  I'm doing it right.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We are not a safe Party.  And to quote a famous fictional
>>>>>>>>>>> general, affiliates will rebel.  The more we try to control things overly
>>>>>>>>>>> much, the more star systems will slip through our fingers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 11:40 PM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There was a concern about an "undue burden" on staff, but was
>>>>>>>>>>>> staff even consulted, or is this just a justification?  Benedict made it
>>>>>>>>>>>> clear in the meeting that staff used to run the FB account.  You schedule
>>>>>>>>>>>> FB posts ahead of time, so one staff member could look at all the content
>>>>>>>>>>>> that the volunteers create and simply be in charge of scheduling it within
>>>>>>>>>>>> FB.  Nothing changes except creating a final check on the situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Doherty made it clear that bad marketing hurts the party.  Ask the others
>>>>>>>>>>>> what they think.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not even worried about the FB algorithms at this point.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Before we even get to that level, I'm worried about what's being said by a
>>>>>>>>>>>> group of volunteers in the name of the party.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've received messages from people who are and were in that
>>>>>>>>>>>> group of volunteers, as I've mentioned before, who think things are being
>>>>>>>>>>>> badly mismanaged and messages controlled to meet agendas of others with no
>>>>>>>>>>>> title or role.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Satanic Temple thing was timing, sure.  Timing is one part
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the problem.  It's the smallest part of the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The core purpose of the APRC is to prevent messages from going
>>>>>>>>>>>> out in our name that are off-platform.  That's true.  But let's ask the
>>>>>>>>>>>> question -- why?  Why would it ever be necessary to do that?  Because we're
>>>>>>>>>>>> all volunteers, and people have their personal axes they like to grind. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> entire premise is to stop things from going out that would hurt the party.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, we are doing nothing. The status quo remains for 4
>>>>>>>>>>>> months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry is right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see an agenda here to strike at making a "centrist" party
>>>>>>>>>>>>> once again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I can say is that I see it and will strenuously oppose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are NOT centrists.  We are Libertarians and pushing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> edge IS part if our job.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 9:15 PM Larry Sharpe <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> lsharpe at neo-sage.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just an opinion to take into consideration: The reason for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the huge backlash on the Satanic post was timing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As many of you have heard me preach, emotion and culture
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter. We just came off the "pro-choice on everything" event, that made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many people feel unhappy. They saw it as an attack on their culture. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then we responded with logical reasons for its validity. Logical responses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to emotional concerns rarely work. Accordingly, many of them were still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emotionally raw. Then during Easter week the Satanic Pic was posted. And of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, many people again responded with logical reasons as to why it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acceptable. This felt like more disrespect and a pile-on attack to their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> culture.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this Satanic pic had come out in July or August (and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had no similar instances in the meantime), this would have been a minor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, just my opinion. I hope it's helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS - Yes, Joshua, that 5% was a nice gesture and I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pleased. Thanks for acknowledging my emotions. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Joshua Katz <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with roughly 3/4 of Steven's email.  (To please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Sharpe, I will increase it to 80%.)  I will leave it as a mystery
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which 3/4 it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Steven Nekhaila <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steven.nekhaila at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The APRC is beyond its scope of duty if it is going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitoring posts, creating a marketing strategy, etc. That is why this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee was founded and it will tally up our shortcomings and identify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our opportunities while allowing us to double down on our strengths. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not a committee to investigate the APRC, this committee will review all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of our social media practices and evaluate our current strategies which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will come back to the LNC as a report so we can take meaningful, effective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action in the proper direction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we were to simply put the staff in charge of vetting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts it would be an undue burden, and more importantly it may not yield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the effective results we are looking for. Social media is very complex and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involves proprietary algorithms, while also varying from platform to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform, we need to keep our aces in their places while also looking for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunities to improve brand protection and messaging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By having a committee study our social media assets and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedures and returning a report to the LNC we will be able to uncover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunities that we may not know exist and expound on solutions. I hope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can have confidence in us to bring something substantial to the table
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come next meeting or before, this will not be taken lightly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of attacking the situation with a hatchet, let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approach it with a scalpel, keep our teams motivated, and use this as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learning opportunity. I just ask you to trust our judgement and understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we share your concerns.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven Nekhaila
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 2 Representative Alt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 305-393-6412 <(305)%20393-6412>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Boxer | http://getboxer.com <http://bxr.io/PBI3C>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On April 16, 2017 at 5:11:26 PM EDT, Ken Moellman <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After my family events today, I returned to watch the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> segment of the LNC meeting, which includes the creation of the committee to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review how we're using Facebook.  I continue to have grave concerns about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.  We are not changing the status quo.  When most organizations make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant mistake due to some sort of internal failing, they send in a "crisis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> management" team to take immediate action to handle the situation - to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle the external marketing and the internal procedure improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, we just create yet another committee to study it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  We have "only" had 2 posts with very negative response,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but there have been other bad posts as well. This motion does not prevent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this from continuing. Nothing has been done to stop this behavior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  We have FB volunteers communicating directly with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people via FB private messaging, responding to negative comments. There is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my understanding, no APRC oversight or approval on these communications
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that come across to the recipient as from "Libertarian Party".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. We have no marketing strategy. There's no messaging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no marketing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. We have no specific social media strategy.  The first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step would be to have a messaging and marketing strategy, and then to apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that strategy within the realm of social media.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simply put, creating a committee to review an existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee (APRC) who reviews another committee (FB Admins) who reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another committee (FB Volunteers) is not a solution.  It is an attempt to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punt and gloss over a glaring problem with the party.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can spend hundreds of hours pushing ballot access. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend hundreds of hours doing IT projects. No amount of foundation work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matters when we intentionally allow the negligent burning down of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure upon which its built.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am currently re-evaluating my role in the party and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount of time I dedicate to the organization.  Maybe it's my political
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mid-life crisis. I just have to question why I kill myself for an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization that kills itself by refusing to not allow itself to be killed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Larry Sharpe*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *The Neo-Sage Group, Inc.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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