[Lnc-business] New Committee does not resolve the problem

Tue Apr 18 04:18:59 EDT 2017

This controversy has dramatically illustrated a number constructive and
destructive ways to respond that we can choose from based on our individual
perception of what is best for us personally and collectively as a party.

These options range from ignoring the controversy and wishfully hoping it
will go away, wallowing in it for personal aggrandizement purposes and
learning from it while fixing it.

>From my perspective of freedom, nothing more, nothing less; I choose to
learn from it, fix our messaging strategy and get back on track on our
Libertarian quest for freedom. Is there really any other choice?

On Apr 18, 2017 1:36 AM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Satan certainly does.
>
> -Caryn Ann
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> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 11:01 PM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>
>> I had written a lengthy response.  Then I realized it didn't matter.
>>
>> At least Satan and the Pauls know where Aleppo is.
>>
>> ken
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 9:01 PM, David Demarest <dprattdemarest at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Ken, I could not agree more about the immediate need to resolve the
>>> issue of our "currently-undefined messaging strategy". I hope that other
>>> LNC members will reflect on your astute observation and choose to
>>> proactively pursue a readily available and cost-effective solution from a
>>> dedicated Libertarian messaging strategy firm.
>>>
>>> Just as important and in a similar spirit, we individual Libertarians
>>> can set an example for each other by ensuring that our personal messaging
>>> strategy houses are in order.
>>>
>>> I personally pledge to refrain from emotional responses to internal
>>> controversies with inappropriate unconstructive actions including but not
>>> limited to publicizing to the broader audience threats to resign from the
>>> party based on perceived affronts to my personal beliefs. While actions
>>> like this might provide short-term gratification, I recognize that such
>>> self-serving hubbubs could have unintended consequences far greater than
>>> the original controversies.
>>>
>>> Ken, thank you again for calling to our attention the need for
>>> comprehensive personal and institutional messaging strategy reform. I will
>>> be glad to work with you to facilitate an institutional messaging strategy
>>> initiative and encourage others who share your vision to join us in this
>>> timely and critical undertaking.
>>>
>>> On Apr 17, 2017 4:33 PM, "Ken Moellman" <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> From what I saw, there was basically no immediate action or change. I'm
>>> sure there will be far more eyes on things for a bit, because of the
>>> hubbub. I just would have felt a lot more comfortable if we had put staff
>>> in as the final check and balance.  It brings accountability. It's
>>> definitive, quantitative action (we now have paid staff, who are
>>> accountable to the party, in charge of final review).  Long term, I think
>>> there needs to be some group that manages all social media, after
>>> developing a strategy that is in-line with our currently-undefined
>>> marketing strategy.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:26 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Immediately is over the course of the weekend.  Chair Sarwark indicated
>>>> he would and has already informed the volunteers of this.  He made this
>>>> announcement right after check out recess.
>>>>
>>>> I do think (not necessarily you) there is an agenda of factionalizing
>>>> messaging, and it is being covered in buzzwords (again not you) but instead
>>>> of calling it factionalizing, we are calling it "bad."
>>>>
>>>> There has been a push to centrize and "moderate" our message from our
>>>> origins and it continues.  And I see this being used as an opportunistic
>>>> way to continue.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, there is a problem.  Yes, it needs to be fixed.   BUT I am
>>>> concerned poison pills are being slipped in.
>>>>
>>>> The only faction I care about is the Statement of Principles.  And not
>>>> being embarassed by what this Party has stood for for over forty years.
>>>> Like taxation is theft.  Not just income taxation.  Taxation.  Can we
>>>> explain better why?  Yes.  And we must.
>>>>
>>>> On the inbox, APRC does not review the inbox and never has.  THAT is a
>>>> problem.  And I don't think Volunteers unless appointed and trained
>>>> directly by and oversaw by APRC, staff, or the Chair should be doing that
>>>> unless it is just linking to an official document.
>>>>
>>>> You and I are of one mind on that issue.  Though we have some
>>>> volunteers fantastic at it, they need more oversight by staff or someone.
>>>> THAT is a big hole.  I agree.
>>>>
>>>> - Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:19 PM, Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No, that is not a factual record of what happened. There was no actual
>>>>> action taken immediately. There was hours of debate, and then we skipped
>>>>> over that immediate action part in the second paragraph and moved on to the
>>>>> third - the internal review process.
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly have no interest in factionalizing messaging. I do think a
>>>>> series of checks and balances with diverse interests represented would mean
>>>>> that nothing bad slips through, or, if it does, then everyone's at fault.
>>>>> It might also help ensure that the messaging is acceptable to all factions.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder if the FB volunteers are still responding directly to people
>>>>> via Private Messaging without any APRC oversight.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am seeing the mention of satanism in the comments on almost every FB
>>>>> post since the incident.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The Libertarian Party made a gaffe last week with a religiously
>>>>>> controversial post last week.  *After the incident*, the Party Chair
>>>>>> Nicholas Sarwark announced to the Libertarian National Committee that he
>>>>>> would be taking interim measures to be sure no such thing repeats while a
>>>>>> committee is convened to recommend better safeguards and to move the LP's
>>>>>> social media into the future.  *This is a change to be sure that
>>>>>> incidents like this do not re-occur.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ************
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We handled it just right IMHO.  I was concerned, and remain so, that
>>>>>> this is a backdoor attempt to factionalize messaging that has continually
>>>>>> happened for years and I will fight that.  However, I do believe we need
>>>>>> better policies and practices.  I offer to unofficially assist this
>>>>>> committee at any opportunity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> **********
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I once again thank the LNC for their hard work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I urge us to appoint people on the current social media team on that
>>>>>> committee and not JUST people who will further make this seem like a power
>>>>>> grab for messaging.  I believe I am disqualified as an LNC member but I
>>>>>> have recommendations (unfortunately I think it should include Patrick and I
>>>>>> who I think are both disqualified).  Anyways disqualified or not, I hope
>>>>>> the volunteers are consulted or this will be viewed as a top-down mistake.  *MATT
>>>>>> HASTY should definitely be on this committee.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 4:04 AM, Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How most react to negative press:  http://finance.yahoo.com/
>>>>>>> news/couple-says-were-kicked-off-185755927.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (emphasis added)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> United has been engulfed by controversy since a viral video emerged
>>>>>>> depicting 69-year-old David Dao
>>>>>>> <http://www.businessinsider.com/united-airlines-passenger-dragged-from-flight-name-2017-4> being
>>>>>>> violently dragged off a United Airlines flight after refusing to give up
>>>>>>> his seat to make room for crew members. Dao sustained injuries and plans
>>>>>>> to file a lawsuit
>>>>>>> <http://www.businessinsider.com/man-dragged-from-united-airlines-flight-will-file-lawsuit-2017-4> against
>>>>>>> the airline.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *After the incident* involving Dao,* United enacted a new rule*
>>>>>>> stipulating that crew members will no longer be allowed to displace
>>>>>>> passengers already on board the plane, the Associated Press reported.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> United spokeswoman Maggie Schmerin said in an email to the AP on
>>>>>>> Sunday that *the change is an initial step in a review of policies
>>>>>>> and it's meant to ensure that situations like Dao's never happen again*
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 3:11 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am being ruthlessly and visciousky attacked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No good deed goes unpunished.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I knkw what I did and everyone on this body knows I defended the
>>>>>>>> volunteers.  I'm deeply saddened but I don't regret doing so.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:38 AM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yeah, I saw that you're being attacked. Interestingly, but not
>>>>>>>>> surprising, by the same person I've received multiple reports from as being
>>>>>>>>> part of the problem with the current configuration.  My guess is that the
>>>>>>>>> person know they're being a problem, thinks this ends with them being
>>>>>>>>> reeled in, and so now they're lashing out.  But that's just a guess on my
>>>>>>>>> part.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As one more metric, I was pointed to the number of Likes versus
>>>>>>>>> Follows and apparently that ratio is bad.  So while we have a lot of likes,
>>>>>>>>> we also have a lot of un-follows.  But it'll be 4 months before we
>>>>>>>>> officially do nothing, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:31 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Im done too.  For all My all my defense of the volunteers I'm now
>>>>>>>>>> the bad guy .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> You and I disagree on very little Ken.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 12:22 AM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm pretty much done with the topic. I don't know what I'm going
>>>>>>>>>>> to do next, other than post that it may be a good idea, in marketing, to
>>>>>>>>>>> consider the audience.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.pewforum.org/religious-landscape-study/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Nick assured us it was not.  Staff is not even answering all
>>>>>>>>>>>> emails.  Scheduling is not as easy or quick as all that and likes it or
>>>>>>>>>>>> not, believes me or not, you will lose the volunteers.  I'm rethinking
>>>>>>>>>>>> whether I stil want to volunteer seeing how dismissive some things have
>>>>>>>>>>>> been.  Some may be think oh well.  Ask Matt or Nick how much I do.  Better
>>>>>>>>>>>> yet ask affiliates about the good will.  But we are willing to flush myself
>>>>>>>>>>>> and dozens of others work down the toilet.  That's not OK.  (We do need a
>>>>>>>>>>>> management structure - that us abundantly clear - without a doubt)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I love itnso I doubt I will stop.  But I would hope we have
>>>>>>>>>>>> concern for everyone not just the "important" people.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Volunteers are not gopher grunt slaves.  Not beimg worried
>>>>>>>>>>>> about algorithms just says the work the volunteers did for years is
>>>>>>>>>>>> meaningless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Timing is not the smallest part of the problem though there are
>>>>>>>>>>>> others I will only say in executive session per our rules.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The whole comment on the APRC is illplaced.  We mostly check
>>>>>>>>>>>> messages from or suggested by STAFF and without violating confidentiality,
>>>>>>>>>>>> there is a reject rate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Facebook succeeds not by being safe and NOT by the false
>>>>>>>>>>>> narrative we are centrist.  Our Stament of Principles is bold.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do I think it requires the devil? No,  God no.  But I see this
>>>>>>>>>>>> as being used to do exactly what you are talking about- factional pettiness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Good news- all sides are mad at me,  I'm doing it right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We are not a safe Party.  And to quote a famous fictional
>>>>>>>>>>>> general, affiliates will rebel.  The more we try to control things overly
>>>>>>>>>>>> much, the more star systems will slip through our fingers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 11:40 PM Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> There was a concern about an "undue burden" on staff, but was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> staff even consulted, or is this just a justification?  Benedict made it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clear in the meeting that staff used to run the FB account.  You schedule
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FB posts ahead of time, so one staff member could look at all the content
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that the volunteers create and simply be in charge of scheduling it within
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FB.  Nothing changes except creating a final check on the situation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doherty made it clear that bad marketing hurts the party.  Ask the others
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what they think.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm not even worried about the FB algorithms at this point.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before we even get to that level, I'm worried about what's being said by a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> group of volunteers in the name of the party.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've received messages from people who are and were in that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> group of volunteers, as I've mentioned before, who think things are being
>>>>>>>>>>>>> badly mismanaged and messages controlled to meet agendas of others with no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> title or role.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Satanic Temple thing was timing, sure.  Timing is one part
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the problem.  It's the smallest part of the problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The core purpose of the APRC is to prevent messages from going
>>>>>>>>>>>>> out in our name that are off-platform.  That's true.  But let's ask the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> question -- why?  Why would it ever be necessary to do that?  Because we're
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all volunteers, and people have their personal axes they like to grind. The
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entire premise is to stop things from going out that would hurt the party.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In essence, we are doing nothing. The status quo remains for 4
>>>>>>>>>>>>> months.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 11:18 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry is right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see an agenda here to strike at making a "centrist" party
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> once again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I can say is that I see it and will strenuously oppose.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are NOT centrists.  We are Libertarians and pushing the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> edge IS part if our job.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 9:15 PM Larry Sharpe <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lsharpe at neo-sage.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just an opinion to take into consideration: The reason for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the huge backlash on the Satanic post was timing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As many of you have heard me preach, emotion and culture
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matter. We just came off the "pro-choice on everything" event, that made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> many people feel unhappy. They saw it as an attack on their culture. And
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> then we responded with logical reasons for its validity. Logical responses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to emotional concerns rarely work. Accordingly, many of them were still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> emotionally raw. Then during Easter week the Satanic Pic was posted. And of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> course, many people again responded with logical reasons as to why it was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acceptable. This felt like more disrespect and a pile-on attack to their
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> culture.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If this Satanic pic had come out in July or August (and we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> had no similar instances in the meantime), this would have been a minor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Again, just my opinion. I hope it's helpful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PS - Yes, Joshua, that 5% was a nice gesture and I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pleased. Thanks for acknowledging my emotions. :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 10:49 PM, Joshua Katz <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I agree with roughly 3/4 of Steven's email.  (To please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry Sharpe, I will increase it to 80%.)  I will leave it as a mystery
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which 3/4 it is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 16, 2017 at 6:29 PM, Steven Nekhaila <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steven.nekhaila at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The APRC is beyond its scope of duty if it is going to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> monitoring posts, creating a marketing strategy, etc. That is why this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee was founded and it will tally up our shortcomings and identify
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our opportunities while allowing us to double down on our strengths. This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is not a committee to investigate the APRC, this committee will review all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of our social media practices and evaluate our current strategies which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will come back to the LNC as a report so we can take meaningful, effective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> action in the proper direction.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we were to simply put the staff in charge of vetting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posts it would be an undue burden, and more importantly it may not yield
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the effective results we are looking for. Social media is very complex and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> involves proprietary algorithms, while also varying from platform to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> platform, we need to keep our aces in their places while also looking for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunities to improve brand protection and messaging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By having a committee study our social media assets and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> procedures and returning a report to the LNC we will be able to uncover
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opportunities that we may not know exist and expound on solutions. I hope
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you can have confidence in us to bring something substantial to the table
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come next meeting or before, this will not be taken lightly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Instead of attacking the situation with a hatchet, let's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> approach it with a scalpel, keep our teams motivated, and use this as a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learning opportunity. I just ask you to trust our judgement and understand
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that we share your concerns.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steven Nekhaila
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 2 Representative Alt
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 305-393-6412 <(305)%20393-6412>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from Boxer | http://getboxer.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://bxr.io/PBI3C>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On April 16, 2017 at 5:11:26 PM EDT, Ken Moellman <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All -
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> After my family events today, I returned to watch the last
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> segment of the LNC meeting, which includes the creation of the committee to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> review how we're using Facebook.  I continue to have grave concerns about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this.  We are not changing the status quo.  When most organizations make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> giant mistake due to some sort of internal failing, they send in a "crisis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> management" team to take immediate action to handle the situation - to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle the external marketing and the internal procedure improvement.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apparently, we just create yet another committee to study it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  We have "only" had 2 posts with very negative
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response, but there have been other bad posts as well. This motion does not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prevent this from continuing. Nothing has been done to stop this behavior.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  We have FB volunteers communicating directly with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people via FB private messaging, responding to negative comments. There is,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to my understanding, no APRC oversight or approval on these communications
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that come across to the recipient as from "Libertarian Party".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 3. We have no marketing strategy. There's no messaging.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There's no marketing.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4. We have no specific social media strategy.  The first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step would be to have a messaging and marketing strategy, and then to apply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that strategy within the realm of social media.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simply put, creating a committee to review an existing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> committee (APRC) who reviews another committee (FB Admins) who reviews
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another committee (FB Volunteers) is not a solution.  It is an attempt to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> punt and gloss over a glaring problem with the party.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can spend hundreds of hours pushing ballot access. I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spend hundreds of hours doing IT projects. No amount of foundation work
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matters when we intentionally allow the negligent burning down of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> structure upon which its built.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am currently re-evaluating my role in the party and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amount of time I dedicate to the organization.  Maybe it's my political
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mid-life crisis. I just have to question why I kill myself for an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization that kills itself by refusing to not allow itself to be killed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Larry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Larry Sharpe*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *The Neo-Sage Group, Inc.*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://TheNeoSage.com/ <http://theneosage.com/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/user/TheNeoSage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/neosage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/neosage>*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>
>>>
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>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Lnc-business mailing list
>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Lnc-business mailing list
> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
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