[Lnc-business] Definition of Staff

Mon Apr 24 22:59:18 EDT 2017

Whitney hit it - there is volunteer "staff."

I didn't word things this way but I just noticed on the LPCO page we have
"Volunteer Staff" listed.

There is paid staff.  And there is volunteer staff.

- Caryn Ann

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <whitneycb76 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I don't consider LNC members/officers to be staff.
> I do acknowledge that 'staff' is paid, and 'volunteer staff' is not.
> I would say that both types of staff members are subject to the will of
> the LNC and/or ED when it comes to party-related activities.
>
> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There may not be with us.  I don't think it is so clear with members.
>>
>> But that is the extent of my comments. I certainly don't consider any
>> committee member staff.
>>
>> I don't think this line is clear with volunteers.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 11:51 AM Sam Goldstein <
>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think there is any confusion between staff and the governing
>>> board of
>>> an organization.  Staff implements the policies set by the board and is
>>> directly
>>> supervised by the Chair.
>>>
>>> Sam
>>>
>>> Sam Goldstein
>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>> Member at Large
>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone
>>> 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I agree the broader definition leads to problems.  But I think it is
>>>> the way it works out in reality like it or not.  Is Nick staff?  No,
>>>> technically not.  Are we?  No, technically not.  But when members hear us
>>>> speak, they don't always see the difference.
>>>>
>>>> Thus my comments.
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Sam Goldstein <
>>>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Brett.  Paid employees and paid contractors are staff and
>>>>> volunteers are
>>>>> volunteers.  A broader definition might lead to problems we don't
>>>>> anticipate at this time.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> Member at Large
>>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>>> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone
>>>>> 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I view it more broadly at times, and more narrowly at times. Aren't
>>>>>> volunteers "staff" at times?  I think they are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 7:30 AM, Brett Bittner <brett.bittner at lp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To me, it is a term that means anyone that is employed or contracted
>>>>>>> by the Party.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While I realize that may not be the appropriate legal (read: tax
>>>>>>> implication) term, it is how I use it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope this helps,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brett
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> **This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2017 9:13 AM, "Daniel Hayes" <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What does the term "staff" mean in relation to the LNC?  I haven't
>>>>>>>> found that term defined.  Is there some official definition of this that I
>>>>>>>> can be pointed to? What does everyone on the LNC consider it to mean?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>>>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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