[Lnc-business] Definition of Staff
Daniel Hayes
danielehayes at icloud.com
Mon Apr 24 23:05:14 EDT 2017
I am not concerned with how affiliates define staff. I am talking about how the term is used within the LNC.
Daniel Hayes
LNC At Large Member
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 24, 2017, at 9:59 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Whitney hit it - there is volunteer "staff."
>
> I didn't word things this way but I just noticed on the LPCO page we have "Volunteer Staff" listed.
>
> There is paid staff. And there is volunteer staff.
>
> - Caryn Ann
>
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <whitneycb76 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I don't consider LNC members/officers to be staff.
>> I do acknowledge that 'staff' is paid, and 'volunteer staff' is not.
>> I would say that both types of staff members are subject to the will of the LNC and/or ED when it comes to party-related activities.
>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> There may not be with us. I don't think it is so clear with members.
>>>
>>> But that is the extent of my comments. I certainly don't consider any committee member staff.
>>>
>>> I don't think this line is clear with volunteers.
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 11:51 AM Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I don't think there is any confusion between staff and the governing board of
>>>> an organization. Staff implements the policies set by the board and is directly
>>>> supervised by the Chair.
>>>>
>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> Member at Large
>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> I agree the broader definition leads to problems. But I think it is the way it works out in reality like it or not. Is Nick staff? No, technically not. Are we? No, technically not. But when members hear us speak, they don't always see the difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus my comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I agree with Brett. Paid employees and paid contractors are staff and volunteers are
>>>>>> volunteers. A broader definition might lead to problems we don't anticipate at this time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>> Member at Large
>>>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>>>> 317-850-0726 Phone
>>>>>> 317-582-1773 Fax
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I view it more broadly at times, and more narrowly at times. Aren't volunteers "staff" at times? I think they are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 7:30 AM, Brett Bittner <brett.bittner at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> To me, it is a term that means anyone that is employed or contracted by the Party.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While I realize that may not be the appropriate legal (read: tax implication) term, it is how I use it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope this helps,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brett
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2017 9:13 AM, "Daniel Hayes" <danielehayes at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What does the term "staff" mean in relation to the LNC? I haven't found that term defined. Is there some official definition of this that I can be pointed to? What does everyone on the LNC consider it to mean?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>>>>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
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>>>>> In Liberty,
>>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> We defend your rights
>>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> In Liberty,
>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> We defend your rights
>>> And oppose the use of force
>>> Taxation is theft
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
>
>
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