[Lnc-business] Definition of Staff

Mon Apr 24 23:09:12 EDT 2017

Based on this thread, I think the answer to Mr. Hayes' question is "not
consistently."

Joshua A. Katz

On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
wrote:

> I am not concerned with how affiliates define staff.  I am talking about
> how the term is used within the LNC.
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Apr 24, 2017, at 9:59 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Whitney hit it - there is volunteer "staff."
>
> I didn't word things this way but I just noticed on the LPCO page we have
> "Volunteer Staff" listed.
>
> There is paid staff.  And there is volunteer staff.
>
> - Caryn Ann
>
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 8:54 PM, Whitney Bilyeu <whitneycb76 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't consider LNC members/officers to be staff.
>> I do acknowledge that 'staff' is paid, and 'volunteer staff' is not.
>> I would say that both types of staff members are subject to the will of
>> the LNC and/or ED when it comes to party-related activities.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There may not be with us.  I don't think it is so clear with members.
>>>
>>> But that is the extent of my comments. I certainly don't consider any
>>> committee member staff.
>>>
>>> I don't think this line is clear with volunteers.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 11:51 AM Sam Goldstein <
>>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think there is any confusion between staff and the governing
>>>> board of
>>>> an organization.  Staff implements the policies set by the board and is
>>>> directly
>>>> supervised by the Chair.
>>>>
>>>> Sam
>>>>
>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>> Member at Large
>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone
>>>> 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree the broader definition leads to problems.  But I think it is
>>>>> the way it works out in reality like it or not.  Is Nick staff?  No,
>>>>> technically not.  Are we?  No, technically not.  But when members hear us
>>>>> speak, they don't always see the difference.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thus my comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Sam Goldstein <
>>>>> goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Brett.  Paid employees and paid contractors are staff
>>>>>> and volunteers are
>>>>>> volunteers.  A broader definition might lead to problems we don't
>>>>>> anticipate at this time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>> Member at Large
>>>>>> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>>>>>> Indianapolis IN 46260
>>>>>> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone
>>>>>> 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 9:33 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I view it more broadly at times, and more narrowly at times. Aren't
>>>>>>> volunteers "staff" at times?  I think they are.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 22, 2017 at 7:30 AM, Brett Bittner <brett.bittner at lp.org
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> To me, it is a term that means anyone that is employed or
>>>>>>>> contracted by the Party.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> While I realize that may not be the appropriate legal (read: tax
>>>>>>>> implication) term, it is how I use it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I hope this helps,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brett
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> **This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Apr 22, 2017 9:13 AM, "Daniel Hayes" <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What does the term "staff" mean in relation to the LNC?  I haven't
>>>>>>>>> found that term defined.  Is there some official definition of this that I
>>>>>>>>> can be pointed to? What does everyone on the LNC consider it to mean?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>>>>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
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