[Lnc-business] Libertarian National Committee Resolution on Military Members in the Libertarian Party

Sat May 20 01:49:15 EDT 2017

I agree that we all are tired (in spades! :)). I must confess I was incorrectly dubious of the motivation behind this initiative but am proud of what came out of it. I was also cognizant of Sam’s wise suggestion to limit the initial effort to 2 or 3 writers. I am all for unity, and accuracy. Let’s correct the omission and run it up the flagpole for approval.

Thoughts?

~David

Dec 28-Jan 1 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention

~David Pratt Demarest

LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)

Secretary, LPNE State Central Committee

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Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Libertarian National Committee Resolution on Military Members in the Libertarian Party

I would say to any member that believes it needs more work that Daniel put out an open call for writers.... I took him up on it.  Anyone could have.  We all are very busy and have lives and stresses.  The non-inclusion of something does not mean purposeful exclusion.  If I had thought of that, and I am more than happy to share my discussions on my proposals which proposed amendments that were accepted, I would have done so.

Let's please not stoke any more fires.

Yes, my desire is unity.

-Caryn Ann

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com <mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com> > wrote:

I think David makes a good point.  However, I helped write the Resolution and will vehemently disagree with any intent.  Anyone could have volunteered to help write.  Many minds help make things better.

I would personally support the inclusion of that and will supplement my email to the Chairs.

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:27 PM, David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net <mailto:dpdemarest at centurylink.net> > wrote:

Daniel, this is excellent as far as it goes. I will cosponsor provided that you include something similar to the following:

“Whereas, The United States Military-Industrial-Complex has used aggressive and unethical recruiting tactics to lure many well-meaning military service members into going against their conscience on military policy”

This puts the burden of guilt on the government. The purported purpose of this motion of to make peace with all parties involved. However, the reasons for not including such a statement are patently obvious and clearly not intended to make peace with those who supported Arvin’s original legitimate contention. Without the inclusion of something like the statement above, I will reluctantly vote in favor but will not cosponsor. It probably could use some wordsmithing.

Thoughts?

~David

Dec 28-Jan 1 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention

~David Pratt Demarest

LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)

Secretary, LPNE State Central Committee

Cell:      402-981-6469 <tel:(402)%20981-6469> 

Home: 402-493-0873 <tel:(402)%20493-0873> 

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Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Libertarian National Committee Resolution on Military Members in the Libertarian Party

I believe from my prior discussions with Region 1 Chairs that they would be in support.  I will communicate this to them forwith.

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:51 PM, <danielehayes at icloud.com <mailto:danielehayes at icloud.com> > wrote:

I am seeking co-sponsors for the following resolution. 

Daniel Hayes 
LNC At Large Member

Whereas, We support the maintenance of a sufficient military to defend the United States against aggression and believe that the United States should both avoid entangling alliances and abandon its attempts to act as policeman for the world;

Whereas, We oppose any form of compulsory national service and recognize that many members of the military were unjustly conscripted in the past;

Whereas, Most voluntary members of the military joined with the idea and/or goal of defending the United States and, thereby, their property, families, and friends;

Whereas, The United States Military-Industrial-Complex has used many well-meaning military service members for purposes other than defense against aggression and further involved them in foreign entanglements during attempts to act as the world’s policeman; and

Whereas, Many current and former military service members are able to relate, identify, and speak out on the ways in which the United States military mission has been expanded and corrupted beyond a legitimate role of defense against aggression; now, therefore, be it;

Resolved, Present and former members of the military who give such unique and powerful voice to the libertarian principles of peace and the non-initiation of force add great value to the Libertarian Party, and are welcomed as a vital part of our membership.

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Caryn Ann Harlos

Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> 

Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> 

Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>  

Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

We defend your rights

And oppose the use of force

Taxation is theft

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In Liberty,

Caryn Ann Harlos

Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org <mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> 

Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado <http://www.lpcolorado.org> 

Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>  

Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:

We defend your rights

And oppose the use of force

Taxation is theft

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