[Lnc-business] Libertarian National Committee Resolution on Military Members in the Libertarian Party

Sat May 20 01:53:53 EDT 2017

I am inclined to support either way, but as I say, I am in discussions with
my Regional Chairs.

I don't believe anything in the current resolution contradicts that
statement so it is not a deal-breaker for me but I personally support its
inclusion.

-Caryn Ann

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:49 PM, David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net
> wrote:

> I agree that we all are tired (in spades! J). I must confess I was
> incorrectly dubious of the motivation behind this initiative but am proud
> of what came out of it. I was also cognizant of Sam’s wise suggestion to
> limit the initial effort to 2 or 3 writers. I am all for unity, and
> accuracy. Let’s correct the omission and run it up the flagpole for
> approval.
>
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> Thoughts?
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> ~David
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>
> *Dec 28-Jan 1 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention*
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> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
>
> Secretary, LPNE State Central Committee
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> Cell:      402-981-6469 <(402)%20981-6469>
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> Home: 402-493-0873 <(402)%20493-0873>
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> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
> *Sent:* Saturday, May 20, 2017 12:35 AM
>
> *To:* Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> *Cc:* lnc-business <lnc-business at lp.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Libertarian National Committee Resolution
> on Military Members in the Libertarian Party
>
>
>
> I would say to any member that believes it needs more work that Daniel put
> out an open call for writers.... I took him up on it.  Anyone could have.
> We all are very busy and have lives and stresses.  The non-inclusion of
> something does not mean purposeful exclusion.  If I had thought of that,
> and I am more than happy to share my discussions on my proposals which
> proposed amendments that were accepted, I would have done so.
>
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>
> Let's please not stoke any more fires.
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> Yes, my desire is unity.
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>
> -Caryn Ann
>
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> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:31 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think David makes a good point.  However, I helped write the Resolution
> and will vehemently disagree with any intent.  Anyone could have
> volunteered to help write.  Many minds help make things better.
>
>
>
> I would personally support the inclusion of that and will supplement my
> email to the Chairs.
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> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 11:27 PM, David Demarest <
> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>
> Daniel, this is excellent as far as it goes. I will cosponsor provided
> that you include something similar to the following:
>
>
>
> “*Whereas, The United States Military-Industrial-Complex has used
> aggressive and unethical recruiting tactics to lure many well-meaning
> military service members into going against their conscience on military
> policy*”
>
>
>
> This puts the burden of guilt on the government. The purported purpose of
> this motion of to make peace with all parties involved. However, the
> reasons for not including such a statement are patently obvious and clearly
> not intended to make peace with those who supported Arvin’s original
> legitimate contention. Without the inclusion of something like the
> statement above, I will reluctantly vote in favor but will not cosponsor.
> It probably could use some wordsmithing.
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> ~David
>
>
>
> *Dec 28-Jan 1 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention*
>
>
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
>
> Secretary, LPNE State Central Committee
>
> Cell:      402-981-6469 <(402)%20981-6469>
>
> Home: 402-493-0873 <(402)%20493-0873>
>
>
>
> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Caryn Ann Harlos
> *Sent:* Friday, May 19, 2017 11:54 PM
> *To:* Libertarian National Committee list <lnc-business at hq.lp.org>
> *Cc:* lnc-business <lnc-business at lp.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Libertarian National Committee Resolution
> on Military Members in the Libertarian Party
>
>
>
> I believe from my prior discussions with Region 1 Chairs that they would
> be in support.  I will communicate this to them forwith.
>
>
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> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:51 PM, <danielehayes at icloud.com> wrote:
>
> I am seeking co-sponsors for the following resolution.
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
> Whereas, We support the maintenance of a sufficient military to defend the
> United States against aggression and believe that the United States should
> both avoid entangling alliances and abandon its attempts to act as
> policeman for the world;
>
>
>
> Whereas, We oppose any form of compulsory national service and recognize
> that many members of the military were unjustly conscripted in the past;
>
> Whereas, Most voluntary members of the military joined with the idea
> and/or goal of defending the United States and, thereby, their property,
> families, and friends;
>
>
>
> Whereas, The United States Military-Industrial-Complex has used many
> well-meaning military service members for purposes other than defense
> against aggression and further involved them in foreign entanglements
> during attempts to act as the world’s policeman; and
>
>
>
> Whereas, Many current and former military service members are able to
> relate, identify, and speak out on the ways in which the United States
> military mission has been expanded and corrupted beyond a legitimate role
> of defense against aggression; now, therefore, be it;
>
>
> Resolved, Present and former members of the military who give such unique
> and powerful voice to the libertarian principles of peace and the
> non-initiation of force add great value to the Libertarian Party, and are
> welcomed as a vital part of our membership.
>
>
>
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> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
>
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>
> *We defend your rights*
>
> *And oppose the use of force*
>
> *Taxation is theft*
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> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
>
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>
> *We defend your rights*
>
> *And oppose the use of force*
>
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> *In Liberty,*
>
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
>
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>
> *We defend your rights*
>
> *And oppose the use of force*
>
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
>
>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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