[Lnc-business] Libertarian National Committee Resolution on Military Members in the Libertarian Party

Sat May 20 16:28:43 EDT 2017

Did I vote in the wrong thread?  Or is there no vote yet.... I am so
confused.

If there is no vote yet, consider me a co-sponsor.  If there is, will
someone please bump it so I can vote.

I am very tired.

On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
wrote:

> The first clause of the resolution I drafted was the
> following...straightfrom 1.9.
>
> "*Whereas, the only legitimate use of force is in defense of individual
> rights—life, liberty, and justly acquired property—against aggression. This
> right inheres in the individual, who may agree to be aided by any other
> individual or group.  "*
>
>
>
> I dropped it. I didn't need to recreate the entire platform. I was trying
> to keep this tightly focused.  We libertarians tend to not know when to
> stop. We end up stepping in the minutia. We need to understand that
> sometimes less is more.  The shorter the read the more likely it is read.
>
> I leave people with this video gem to ponder.  *David Nolan Alert*
>
> https://youtu.be/056C4wM9niQ
>
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 20, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I have heard from a super-majority of the Region 1 Chairs and cast my vote
> as yes.
>
> However, there were concerns expressed by Montana about language that I
> agreed to put on the record.  The "policeman" language, while it is in the
> Platform,  might be seen to impugn a legitimate policing function of - as
> 1.9 says - assisting in the defense of persons who request assistance.
> There might be another concern to be placed on the record about the use of
> the word "corrupt" - if I am asked to, I will note them.
>
> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 1:54 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Daniel,
>>
>> You receive them because you use an @iCloud email address.  When Jeff's
>> situation happens, the Yahoo and Gmail users don't receive it.
>>
>> -Alicia
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:48 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Apparently I think I get all of Jeff's emails.  Not sure if I get Tim's
>>> when they go awry. I don't think I do but I am just now paying more
>>> attention to that.
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On May 20, 2017, at 2:42 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Daniel,
>>>
>>> Yep, working on setting up my record-keeping now for it.  Thanks for
>>> passing along Jeff's message for me.
>>>
>>> -Alicia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 12:29 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Alicia,
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if you have to dig in the sever to see with the email hide and
>>>> seek going on. Jeff and Tim have Co-sponsored.  With you that should be the
>>>> 4 needed.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On May 20, 2017, at 2:12 AM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I will co-sponsor.
>>>>
>>>> -Alicia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 9:51 PM, <danielehayes at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am seeking co-sponsors for the following resolution.
>>>>>
>>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereas, We support the maintenance of a sufficient military to defend
>>>>> the United States against aggression and believe that the United States
>>>>> should both avoid entangling alliances and abandon its attempts to act as
>>>>> policeman for the world;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereas, We oppose any form of compulsory national service and
>>>>> recognize that many members of the military were unjustly conscripted in
>>>>> the past;
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereas, Most voluntary members of the military joined with the idea
>>>>> and/or goal of defending the United States and, thereby, their property,
>>>>> families, and friends;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereas, The United States Military-Industrial-Complex has used many
>>>>> well-meaning military service members for purposes other than defense
>>>>> against aggression and further involved them in foreign entanglements
>>>>> during attempts to act as the world’s policeman; and
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Whereas, Many current and former military service members are able to
>>>>> relate, identify, and speak out on the ways in which the United States
>>>>> military mission has been expanded and corrupted beyond a legitimate role
>>>>> of defense against aggression; now, therefore, be it;
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Resolved, Present and former members of the military who give such
>>>>> unique and powerful voice to the libertarian principles of peace and the
>>>>> non-initiation of force add great value to the Libertarian Party, and are
>>>>> welcomed as a vital part of our membership.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>>>>> Windows 10
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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