[Lnc-business] Convention Oversight Committee Housekeeping

Alicia Mattson agmattson at gmail.com
Wed Jun 28 20:09:45 EDT 2017


P.S.  Ditto to Joshua's comments about why "ratify" would be inappropriate
in these circumstances.

-Alicia


On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:

> When Region 7 appointed Erin as their regional alternate, it made her
> ineligible to continue to serve in the non-LNC position on the COC to which
> she had been appointed.  I'm in favor of retaining her on the COC, but we
> need to do it correctly by adjusting the committee composition, and
> appointing Erin back to the COC to fill the vacancy created by her regional
> appointment.
>
> This is not a rare situation.  In a previous term (2010-2012), Bill
> Redpath was serving on the Audit Committee as the non-officer LNC member.
> The Treasurer resigned, and Bill was appointed to be the Treasurer.  By
> becoming an officer, he was no longer eligible to serve on the Audit
> Committee, creating an automatic vacancy on the Audit Committee.
>
> At the end of last term, Aaron Starr was serving as a non-LNC member on
> the Audit Committee.  He was appointed to be a regional alternate.  From
> the 5/26/16 LNC minutes, "For this term, Mr. Johnson has been the LNC
> member on the Audit Committee, and Aaron Starr and M Carling were the Audit
> Committee members who were not members of the National Committee.  Recently
> Aaron Starr had been appointed as the Region 4 Alternate to the LNC.  Mr.
> Johnson’s asked the Chair for a ruling on Mr. Starr’s status with the Audit
> Committee.  Mr. Sarwark ruled that since Mr. Starr is now an LNC member, he
> is therefore ineligible to hold his seat on the Audit Committee and cannot
> continue to serve."
>
> Regarding how to fix the policy, I would oppose the particular wording
> Daniel proposed with the "up to 5" language.  When the existing language
> was crafted, it was intentionally mandated that the majority of the COC
> must be LNC members.  That's because the COC has a financial impact on the
> LNC's wallet via the financial results of a convention.  We didn't want
> non-LNC members having majority influence over such financial risk.  The
> "up to 5" language would undermine the balance, because it would even
> permit 0 LNC members.
>
> I suggest we amend the existing language as follows:
>
>
> "*Seven members, with a minimum of *F*f*our LNC Members or Alternates, plus
> 3*and the remainder* non-LNC members who are recommended by the
> Convention Oversight Committee"
>
> Can we give it 24 hours or so for feedback on the language before rushing
> to start the email ballot?  I'd rather take a day longer to get the
> language right.
>
> Because they're such different subjects, I also suggest that we have a
> separate email ballot for appointing Erin to the COC.  Perhaps offset the
> two motions by 1 day so the amendment is adopted first, and then the
> appointment kicks in immediately after.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 11:00 AM, Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> We find ourselves with a bit a problem that needs fixing.  The policy
>> manual defines the Convention Oversight Committee as follows:  "Four LNC
>> Members or Alternates, plus 3 non-LNC members who are recommended by the
>> Convention Oversight Committee"  "LNC members selected by the LNC, non-LNC
>> members selected by the LNC Chair".
>>
>> Erin Adams has moved from being a non-LNC member to being a LNC
>> Alternate.  I have two alternatives on how to do it.  I highly value Erin's
>> work ethic and contribution to the COC and wish to keep her as a full
>> voting member of the committee.
>>
>>
>> First, we could just do the following:
>>
>> "Move to ratify Erin Adams, Whitney Bilyeu, William Brackeen, Sam
>> Goldstein, Daniel Hayes, Alicia Mattson, and BetteRose Ryan as members of
>> the Convention Oversight Committee for the current term, notwithstanding
>> any rules in the LNC Policy Manual."
>>
>> I included all the names because if we ratified one person but not the
>> others, that might create some other problem.
>>
>>
>>
>> This following option is a bit messier but more certain:
>>
>> "Move to amend the chart in the LNC policy manual section 1.03 to define
>> the size of the Convention Oversight Committee as,
>> 'Seven members composed of up to five LNC Members or Alternates, plus up
>> to three non-LNC members who are recommended by the Convention Oversight
>> Committee.';
>> to sunset upon expiration of the current COC term and to ratify Erin
>> Adams' position as a member of the Convention Oversight Committee."
>>
>>
>> My reason for the "up to" language is because life has a funny way of
>> throwing us twists.  IF for some reason a LNC member of the COC were to
>> vacate their seat before the end of their term, I would expect us to
>> restore the composition to 4 LNC and 3 non LNC members of the COC. The
>> sunset is there to restore the original intent once this term is over.
>>
>> I am not seeking co-sponsors for either motion yet, as I am checking a
>> sense of the body to see which route we prefer to use.
>>
>> Daniel Hayes
>> LNC At Large Member
>> LNC COC Vice-Chair
>>
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