[Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors for motion to support campaign of Joe Buchman

Tue Jul 11 02:31:00 EDT 2017

Dr. Buchman sent this to me this morning to provide an answer to Ken's
inquiry and to give information and a request about the debates he has been
excluded from.  It did not make it to my inbox however and he re-sent to me
after speaking on the phone this evening and since that time he has been
officially denied debate access (as per the response I posted in another
LNC business thread).  But please take this information into consideration
in this request.

I know that we want to develop a candidate assistance procedure.  And I
understand that is on the agenda for August. But I ask please do not let
that get in the way of assisting a candidate now.  It is not the fault of
the candidates that we don't yet have such a procedure and this is in the
only Federal race now - great opportunity to get attention for a committed
Libertarian candidate.  Please consider this request..... and in member
relations purpose, it does not help member confidence when we are not
assisting when we can in a race that has the sole stage right now.

>>>Why won't we assist with the campaign of this candidate in the Federal
race?

>>>Because we don't have criteria for assistance.

>>>Why don't you have criteria?

>>>Because we haven't done it yet.

>>>So candidates suffer from LNC lack of establishment of protocol?

The Mark Wicks donation invigorated that race and our members.  This could
do likewise.  Please co-sponsor my request.

The below is from Dr. Buchman:

===========

I am asking for help from those who have connections with Americans for
Prosperity in my request to be included in their Third District candidate
debates.  Please see the email I sent to them copied below and help if you
can.

As I said in the KSL interview, the first step toward winning is getting
into these debates.  I see getting into the debates as where the focus
should be, just as a mountain climber focuses on the next step, or Governor
Johnson focuses on the next curve in his mountain road.  To focus on
"winning the race" rather than those immediate intermediate goals is not a
winning strategy; it's delusional.   I did not say, and have never said,
 "I am not going to win."  What I said was: "I am not running to win . . .
primarily I am running, first, to get into the debates."   I also said: "The
chances of a Libertarian winning the Third District in Utah are not
impossible; I’m swinging; I’m going to go for it; I’m giving it everything
I have. "

I sure wish saying that had made every KSL and LNC listener "happy."

I'll leave it to others to discern if my interview with Doug Wright (has
invited me back again) is fairly characterized as a "concession speech."

If that has left you off-put for listening to the entire interview, I'd ask
you  read the following for the full context and  reconsider:

WRIGHT: This gentleman has some KSL connections that we’ll talk about some
other time, but I want to really get into the motivation, what caused you
to want to get into this race; you’ve got a PhD, you’re running as a
Libertarian, so let’s just set the stage. Give us a little background on
you and why you are in this race.

BUCHMAN: You know Doug, when I walked into your waiting room, I see there
in the lobby, huge letters on the wall, “A Light of Truth in the World.”
The truth that I run on is the foundation of Libertarian politics which is
the fundamental principle in our philosophy that drives our politics, our
ethics, our morality and those other fields of philosophy of which politics
is one, is pretty simple, that is that no human being should have the right
to initiate force, violence against others, to initiate force. And then the
second core principle is that you either own your physical body, it’s yours
to do with as you see fit, or you’re part slave; you’re owned by someone
else. So we take the principles of non-initiation of aggression and
self-ownership and we apply them to politics.

Like you said, I am a college professor, that’s where I am coming from.  I
am not running to win, the chances of a Libertarian winning the Third
District in Utah are not impossible; I’m swinging; I’m going to go for it;
I’m giving it everything I have . . .

WRIGHT: right . . .

BUCHMAN: . . . if I can get Rosie O’ Donnell to retweet something, who
knows . . .

WRIGHT: It worked for Dr. Allen.

BUCHMAN: . . . or Drew Carey, or Penn & Teller or some other Libertarians
who we are reaching out to, who knows? Anything is possible; but primarily
I am running, first of all, to get into the debates. We need a Libertarian
voice in the debates.

My email to Americans for Prosperity:

From: Joseph Buchman <drbuchman at gmail.com>
Date: Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 3:45 PM
Subject: Third District Candidate debate
To: infout at afphq.org

I am writing as the Libertarian Party of Utah's candidate for the Third
District to request inclusion in the debates sponsored by Americans For
Prosperity.

See, for example, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10154532862
572120&set=gm.1744266952269118&type=3&theater

I am on the ballot as a General Election candidate for this office, see:

https://elections.utah.gov/election-resources/2017-candidate-filings

In the absence of an invitation to participate in your debates, may I
inquire of the standards/process for your selection of candidates?

Thanks for your attention to this request,

Joe

These debates were announced on Friday; the first debate is to be held
tomorrow (Tuesday evening).  I'll be there either in the audience or on the
stage. See:

http://www.sltrib.com/news/5485360-155/two-debates-set-for-three-republican

And while they are now being repurposed as for the "Republican primary
candidates only" please note the portion of the article which indicates the
Democrat was invited.

"Democrat Kathie Allen — who's raised nearly $700,000 in donations — did
not respond to an invitation to join the event, Everton said."

Evelyn Everton is the Utah State Director for Americans for Prosperity.

Again any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.

I hope you'll listen to the entire KSL interview and form your own opinion
of it.  I'm sure I could have done better and continue to seek your
constructive feedback as well as help in having Americans for Prosperity
include the Libertarian in their debates.

Thanks again for your consideration,

Joe
_______________________
Joseph G. Buchman, PhD
584 Hillside Circle
Alpine UT 84004
+++++++++++

---------Caryn Ann

On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Very good points Starchild and both views are represented in our
> membership.
>
> I certainly hope we don't divisively "take sides" on that.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:07 AM Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> Ken,
>>
>> You're certainly not the first Libertarian to express a disappointed
>> emotional reaction to a candidate's realistic appraisal of his or her
>> chances, but to you and any other Libertarian who has felt this way, I say
>> take heart! One can lose in conventional terms and still win in libertarian
>> terms. A *conventional* win means the warm body you support occupying
>> the sought-after office. A *libertarian* win, however, means advancing
>> the cause of freedom! Such wins can happen in any number of ways – building
>> momentum for a future run, exposing more people to libertarian ideas,
>> building the party, etc. Of course the cause of freedom is *usually*
>> more likely to be advanced by a Libertarian occupying the sought-after
>> office than by not occupying it – but it isn't the be-all, end-all it's too
>> often made out to be. In some ways, the real fight begins *after* an
>> election is won. If an elected Libertarian isn't mentally prepared to stick
>> to his or her libertarian principles and positions, or doesn't have solidly
>> libertarian principles or positions to begin with, the real, post-election
>> fight for what s/he will do in office is as good as lost. Amid the statist
>> culture and pressures in which s/he will be immersed, such an elected
>> Libertarian will have little chance of surviving with an agenda to advance
>> the cause of freedom intact.
>>
>> *Predicting* an election loss also isn't the same thing as *conceding*.
>> When a candidate *concedes* a race, s/he is saying "the campaign is
>> over, my opponent won". Clearly Joe Buchman is saying no such thing! From
>> appearances, he is running and will continue to run a vigorous campaign and
>> seek as much exposure for our ideas and as many votes as possible. He is
>> running to win in libertarian terms. But is it wise to predict a loss at
>> the ballot box? While miracles occasionally do happen and I've suggested
>> candidates leave the perceptions door open by not entirely ruling out the
>> possibility of getting elected, I would much rather see a Libertarian
>> fighting a long-shot campaign – and this is obviously a long-shot campaign;
>> no Libertarian has come close to being elected to Congress – say flat-out
>> that s/he won't win, than to flat-out say that s/he will. Any candidate
>> facing those kind of odds who predicts electoral victory is either
>> deceiving him/herself, or attempting to deceive others. The former shows a
>> poor grasp of reality, while the latter shows a lack of integrity. Neither
>> reflects well on the candidate! Joe, by contrast, showed his good character
>> by giving an honest and realistic assessment of his chances. For every
>> person out there who thinks, 'I want to vote for someone who tells me
>> s/he's going to win', I believe there's another person out there thinking,
>> 'I want to vote for someone who has integrity and tells the truth'. To
>> which type of voter mentality should we, as the Party of Principle, be
>> trying to appeal?
>>
>> Love & Liberty,
>>
>>                                      ((( starchild )))
>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>                           RealReform at earthlink.net
>>                                   (415) 625-FREE
>>                                    @StarchildSF
>>
>>
>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:00 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>>
>> I found out about this campaign yesterday (now, 2 days ago) and the
>> referenced KSL interview almost immediately starts with the candidate
>> saying "I'm not going to win."  It made me sad. More importantly, I can't
>> agree to give money to someone who has already conceded the race.  I mean,
>> what is the money going to be used for?  Losing better?
>>
>> By contrast, from what I can see, candidates like Laura Ebke and at least
>> one of the recent converts in NH are gearing up re-election campaigns with
>> the intent to win. They certainly haven't publicly conceded, anyway.  There
>> are lots of candidates throughout the country gearing up for 2018 races. 4
>> L converts and many other candidates looking to run winnable races.
>>
>> If this body decides to support candidates, I'd really rather see this
>> body support candidates that are running to win.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello everyone, I received the below request from Dr. Joe Buchman (Utah)
>>> and have been speaking with him about this for the past few weeks.  I would
>>> like us to consider assisting him to our maximum allowed of 5K.
>>>
>>> ========
>>>
>>> To the members of the LNC:
>>>
>>> The resignation of Representative Chaffetz nine days ago from the Third
>>> District of Utah has created a Special Election to be held 7 November
>>> 2017.
>>>
>>> Joe Buchman is the Libertarian Candidate for that seat and following a
>>> special election convention by the Libertarian Party of Utah is on the
>>> ballot for November 7th.   There is a Democratic opponent.  Three
>>> Republicans will face each other in a primary next month.
>>>
>>> See: https://elections.utah.gov/election-resources/2017-cand
>>> idate-filings
>>>
>>> This is, we believe, the only remaining contest for federal office in
>>> 2017 with a Libertarian candidate.
>>>
>>> To date Dr. Buchman has invested $1,000.00 of his personal funds in the
>>> campaign and has raised approximately $250.00 from other donors, with
>>> promises for about $500 in process.
>>>
>>> Joe has just been scheduled as the sole guest for the first hour of
>>> Coast to Coast AM, a national networked late-night radio talk show with an
>>> estimated *2.5 million listeners*, for *Saturday evening, July 29th,
>>> 10:05PM to 11:00PM Pacific time*.  Past show hosts Art Bell and Rollye
>>> James were self-identified Libertarians, and past guests have included
>>> Judge Jim Gray, Michael Badnarik, Aaron Russo, Harry Browne, Andre Marrou
>>> and Dr. Buchman himself (in 2008, when he last ran for the US Congress).
>>>
>>> See: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/search/?query=libertarian
>>>
>>> Joe will be discussing his campaign for the US Congress, his platform as
>>> an expression of the NAP and Self-Ownership paradigms, will be directing
>>> listeners to his website and will be requesting donations.  The Coast to
>>> Coast website will also provide a link to his campaign site -
>>> www.GotoL.vote
>>>
>>> This is a request for national party funding for this singularly
>>> important Special Election campaign.
>>>
>>> The resignation of Representative Chaffetz has already generated
>>> significant national media attention, and this race is likely to continue
>>> to generate national media coverage as the replacement of Congressman
>>> Chaffetz will reflect, to some degree, a measure of voter confidence in the
>>> Trump administration.
>>>
>>> The Libertarian Party nationally will benefit from this election, the
>>> last of 2017 to include a Libertarian candidate for federal office.
>>>
>>> If a funding agreement can be reached prior to the show, Dr. Buchman
>>> would then appeal to Coast to Coast listeners with a promise that any
>>> donations received during the show will be matched dollar-for-dollar.  The
>>> show will be replayed and will also be available as a download from the
>>> network website.
>>>
>>> Joe has been interviewed by three local papers (the Salt Lake Tribune,
>>> Deseret News and City Weekly) and by KSL Radio's Doug Wright.
>>>
>>> That 9 minute radio interview can be found at:
>>>
>>> https://www.ksl.com/?nid=1388&a=11898
>>>
>>> Bottom line: Joe is experienced with media interviews, had a prior
>>> career in radio (including working with Bill Redpath at WTTS radio in the
>>> 1970s), is passionate about both Libertarian political pragmatism and
>>> philosophy, *and is currently scheduled for one of the most visible
>>> media appearances by any Libertarian Candidate this month* (and perhaps
>>> for the remainder of this year).
>>>
>>> This special election creates something of a special case for funding;
>>> an amount equivalent to that provided to the recent candidate in Montana
>>> would seem equitable.
>>>
>>> With gratitude for your consideration of this request,
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> PS If you do choose to listen to the KSL interview and/or to review the
>>> website and links to the print interviews there; ALL feedback, suggestions
>>> for improvement are also welcomed.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
>

-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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