[Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors for motion to support campaign of Joe Buchman
Caryn Ann Harlos
carynannharlos at gmail.com
Sat Jul 15 11:04:33 EDT 2017
Thank you Alicia.
Sam, I am copying from the ballot Alicia started:
*Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Bilyeu, Demarest, Starchild
*Motion:* for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to support the Congressional
campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah)
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 6:07 AM, Sam Goldstein <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Caryn Ann,
>
> Please restate your motion and list the other co-sponsors. I can't find
> it in this
> very long email stream.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Sam Goldstein
> Libertarian National Committee
> Member at Large
> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
> Indianapolis IN 46260
> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Phone
> 317-582-1773 <(317)%20582-1773> Fax
>
> On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 1:22 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi, I am just making sure this gets bumped up as I have the necessary
>> co-sponsors and Dr. Buchman was inquiring about the time frame for a vote.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Correction: Joe is running in 2018 when he WINS this race too :) That
>>> campaign has already started as well.
>>>
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:08 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Joe's doggedness has impressed me and he is campaigning hard. Further
>>>> in this period of time where members are looking for us to keep up the
>>>> momentum, this will please members as well.
>>>>
>>>> Once the email vote goes up, please, please vote yes. Do not allow our
>>>> failure to develop guidelines hurt a life member/hard-working-activist/multiple
>>>> time candidate. Further he is going to run in 2018 as well if he does not
>>>> win this race so we are laying groundwork for TWO campaigns. That is
>>>> amazing.
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 1:00 PM, David Demarest <
>>>> dprattdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Starchild, thank you for your careful evaluation of this challenging
>>>>> question. I agree with your conclusion.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the spirit of Libertarianism, competitive bidding is a desired
>>>>> goal, particularly for governance and social services. However, compulsory
>>>>> representative democracy is a dysfunctional governance artifice to begin
>>>>> with.
>>>>>
>>>>> Accordingly, competitive bidding for our campaign financial support
>>>>> has its limitations and would be impossible to quantify. Guidelines would
>>>>> be helpful, albeit inevitably subjective based on our evaluation of
>>>>> candidate merits and electoral race relevance based on our diverse
>>>>> individual Libertarian principle perspectives that complicate reaching a
>>>>> consensus. Ad hoc debates like this may be the only realistic option.
>>>>> Again, however, guidelines would help and the sooner available, the better.
>>>>>
>>>>> I suggest that we proceed post haste with guideline development but in
>>>>> the meantime do not shirk our duty on ad hoc candidate vetting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 13, 2017 1:29 PM, "Starchild" <sfdreamer at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been torn over this. I consider Joe both a good friend and a
>>>>>> principled libertarian with excellent ethical instincts, a lack of burning
>>>>>> ambition, and solid enough balls to stand up and speak out on principle
>>>>>> when he sees something wrong going on – in short, just the kind of
>>>>>> Libertarian we need in office. He is waging a radical and spirited campaign
>>>>>> for public office using wit and humor, the kind of campaign that does us
>>>>>> credit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nevertheless I am also very much in agreement with Sam Goldstein that
>>>>>> we need to stop appropriating candidate funds in an ad hoc manner. To do so
>>>>>> is unfair and probably on the whole produces results that are far from
>>>>>> optimum, much like awarding contracts without competitive bidding or hiring
>>>>>> new employees without an open call for applicants. Having not long before
>>>>>> we received this request presented to the LNC a proposal to address this
>>>>>> situation, I was at that time of a mind not to support any more such
>>>>>> requests until we either approve it, or adopt some other reasonable
>>>>>> approach that strives for fairness, consistency, and equal opportunity in
>>>>>> how we allocate funds.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet against this intent I must now weigh the obvious merits of Joe
>>>>>> Buchman's campaign and Caryn Ann's strong case on his behalf, including the
>>>>>> fact that this is the big national campaign we have going right now, and
>>>>>> Joe is getting great exposure. In the end it is possible I am allowing
>>>>>> myself to be swayed by friendship and personal familiarity and regard,
>>>>>> which is precisely the danger of the way we are conducting this process (or
>>>>>> lack of a process), and if some feel I am making the wrong decision I can't
>>>>>> really blame them. Nevertheless, I'm going to go ahead and co-sponsor in
>>>>>> the knowledge that we'll be supporting a terrific candidate and a man of
>>>>>> integrity who I trust to spend the money wisely.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So I gather we now have the requisite four votes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ((( starchild )))
>>>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>> RealReform at earthlink.net
>>>>>> (415) 625-FREE
>>>>>> @StarchildSF
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jul 13, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe did very well in the debate - he only had the questions ahead of
>>>>>> time for a few hours while the old party candidates had them for a few
>>>>>> weeks. He is now working hard to get in the next major debate. This is a
>>>>>> candidate doing a real campaign... looking for one more co-sponsor.
>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://kutv.com/news/local/3rd-district-candidates-try-to-br
>>>>>> eak-out-of-the-pack-at-debate-in-provo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==But Curtis came with a target on his back. When he told the crowd
>>>>>> the federal government's proper role included overseeing currency, Buchman
>>>>>> pounced.
>>>>>> "Mr. Mayor, I apologize but I get to correct you," he said. "As
>>>>>> someone who earned a PhD and an MBA in finance, the Federal Reserve is a
>>>>>> private bank."==
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 9:30 PM, David Demarest <
>>>>>> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regarding Dr. Buchman’s alleged “I can’t win” comment, Larry Sharpe
>>>>>>> has pointed out that despite the admittedly formidable odds against Larry
>>>>>>> winning the 2018 New York Governor’s race, it will be worth it not only to
>>>>>>> lay a foundation for the future but also, and just as important, to provide
>>>>>>> considerable credibility and word-of-mouth publicity impact to down-ticket
>>>>>>> races.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *2018 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ~David Pratt Demarest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LSLA Vice-Chair
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Ken Moellman
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 11, 2017 9:33 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors for motion to
>>>>>>> support campaign of Joe Buchman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I cannot co-sponsor because I'm an alternate. However, I have had
>>>>>>> several conversations and I want to chime back in and revise my statements
>>>>>>> from my initial email.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I do not know Dr. Buchman personally, and nothing I said before was
>>>>>>> meant to be personal. As a former campaign manager, anything that sounds
>>>>>>> like "I can't win" makes me want to set the room on fire. I'm a bit
>>>>>>> sensitive on that matter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since that time, I have learned more information.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The core issue is the use of the funds. If the funds are being used
>>>>>>> to increase the ability of the campaign to do long-term outreach (supplies
>>>>>>> promoting the LP, building local parties, etc.), I could be convinced to
>>>>>>> support such a measure. By contrast, if the funds are being used to
>>>>>>> purchase supplies like yard signs or other "temporary" campaign-related
>>>>>>> costs, I'd definitely be against it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm just an alternate, so my vote rarely counts. But after
>>>>>>> obtaining more information and further thought on the matter, I felt it
>>>>>>> necessary to append my previous comments with these.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ken
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 5:48 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe is also a friend of mine, and yes, he is "okay" with it, meaning
>>>>>>> no ill feelings as he is a long-term and dedicated member of the Party who
>>>>>>> understands that this is business, he certainly urged me to ask, and has
>>>>>>> been asking me for updates-- so it would mean a great to him and his
>>>>>>> campaign. This is the only Federal race going on right now - and he just
>>>>>>> scored a victory getting into a previously denied debate. I have explained
>>>>>>> the realities of the situation with having no set standards yet and he
>>>>>>> understands -- but he certainly did ask me to pursue this. And members
>>>>>>> have asked me about it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As to funding ballot access, though I respect my predecessor Norm
>>>>>>> immensely - he and I are of different minds when it comes to ballot access
>>>>>>> funding - he would routinely vote no. I have always voted yes. There are
>>>>>>> many reasons for that but one issue that arises is that Region 1 gets short
>>>>>>> shrift in that - or it can **appear** so. I am fully on board with the
>>>>>>> idea that nationwide ballot access benefits everyone, but it is certainly
>>>>>>> true that these funds do not go to Region 1 - with the highest numerical
>>>>>>> amounts of affiliates (9 states). Utah is Region 1 and helping with a
>>>>>>> Region 1 campaign helps to balance this out and thus far, I have had the
>>>>>>> full support of my regional chairs when supporting ballot access funding
>>>>>>> because I press the case that region 1 is getting benefits from pushing
>>>>>>> national memberships and in their national membership.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also urge other members to give a contribution. I will be doing
>>>>>>> so when I see how this month's finances go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thank David and Whitney for co-sponsoring. *I ask for one more.*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 12:13 PM, William Redpath <
>>>>>>> wredpath2 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Buchman is a multi-decade friend of mine. I thank him very much
>>>>>>> for running--he jumped in at the last minute when another candidate backed
>>>>>>> out--and wish him the best in his Campaign. I have personally contributed
>>>>>>> $201 to Joe Buchman's Campaign. I urge other members of the LNC to do so,
>>>>>>> as well. However, I am opposed to the LNC contributing to his Campaign. I
>>>>>>> have discussed this with Joe, and he is OK with no LNC funding of his
>>>>>>> Campaign. I wish we did, but the LNC currently does not have the resources
>>>>>>> to be contributing to many, if any, candidates, particularly when we have
>>>>>>> other needs, including ballot access in Tennessee and Alabama. And, we
>>>>>>> have Ohio to finish, and that is a big job.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I ask people not to co-sponsor this motion and, should it become a
>>>>>>> motion, to vote "No."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bill Redpath
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, 7/11/17, Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/compose?to=carynannharlos@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Request for co-sponsors for motion to
>>>>>>> support campaign of Joe Buchman
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To: "Libertarian National Committee list" <lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>> <https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/compose?to=lnc-business@hq.lp.org>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cc: "Joseph Buchman" <drbuchman at gmail.com
>>>>>>> <https://mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/b/compose?to=drbuchman@gmail.com>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, July 11, 2017, 1:31 PM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe got in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the debates - this is getting momentum. I am once again
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> asking for the needed co-sponsors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:08 PM, David Demarest <
>>>>>>> dprattdemarest at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will co-sponsor.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2017 12:32 PM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe got in the debates - this is getting momentum. I am once again
>>>>>>> asking for the needed co-sponsors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 2:45 AM, Daniel Hayes <
>>>>>>> danielehayes at icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nick,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am sure you are already on it but would this warrant a letter from
>>>>>>> Oliver? It sounds like it may. Only including two people from the old
>>>>>>> establishment parties in the debate, for the sake of time as the criteria I
>>>>>>> have seen for the inclusion, doesn't seem unbiased to me. AFP is a
>>>>>>> non-profit as I recall. That might put AFP in an even more precarious
>>>>>>> position than the television station in Montana.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As this is regarding potential legal action, I don't expect much of
>>>>>>> a response here on this public list. I am certain the letters,
>>>>>>> correspondence, filings and other actions, if appropriate, will be put into
>>>>>>> action by those with the letters J.D. behind their name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Daniel Hayes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LNC At Large Member
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 11, 2017, at 1:31 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Buchman sent this to me this morning to provide an answer to
>>>>>>> Ken's inquiry and to give information and a request about the debates he
>>>>>>> has been excluded from. It did not make it to my inbox however and he
>>>>>>> re-sent to me after speaking on the phone this evening and since that time
>>>>>>> he has been officially denied debate access (as per the response I posted
>>>>>>> in another LNC business thread). But please take this information into
>>>>>>> consideration in this request.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that we want to develop a candidate assistance procedure.
>>>>>>> And I understand that is on the agenda for August. But I ask please do not
>>>>>>> let that get in the way of assisting a candidate now. It is not the fault
>>>>>>> of the candidates that we don't yet have such a procedure and this is in
>>>>>>> the only Federal race now - great opportunity to get attention for a
>>>>>>> committed Libertarian candidate. Please consider this request..... and in
>>>>>>> member relations purpose, it does not help member confidence when we are
>>>>>>> not assisting when we can in a race that has the sole stage right now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>Why won't we assist with the campaign of this candidate in the
>>>>>>> Federal race?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>Because we don't have criteria for assistance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>Why don't you have criteria?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>Because we haven't done it yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >>>So candidates suffer from LNC lack of establishment of protocol?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Mark Wicks donation invigorated that race and our members. This
>>>>>>> could do likewise. Please co-sponsor my request.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The below is from Dr. Buchman:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ===========
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am asking for help from those who have connections with Americans
>>>>>>> for Prosperity in my request to be included in their Third District
>>>>>>> candidate debates. Please see the email I sent to them copied below and
>>>>>>> help if you can.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As I said in the KSL interview, the first step toward winning is
>>>>>>> getting into these debates. I see getting into the debates as where the
>>>>>>> focus should be, just as a mountain climber focuses on the next step, or
>>>>>>> Governor Johnson focuses on the next curve in his mountain road. To focus
>>>>>>> on "winning the race" rather than those immediate intermediate goals is not
>>>>>>> a winning strategy; it's delusional. I did not say, and have never said,
>>>>>>> "I am not going to win." What I said was: "I am not running to win . . .
>>>>>>> primarily I am running, first, to get into the debates." I also said:
>>>>>>> "The chances of a Libertarian winning the Third District in Utah are not
>>>>>>> impossible; I’m swinging; I’m going to go for it; I’m giving it everything
>>>>>>> I have. "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I sure wish saying that had made every KSL and LNC listener "happy."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'll leave it to others to discern if my interview with Doug Wright
>>>>>>> (has invited me back again) is fairly characterized as a "concession
>>>>>>> speech."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that has left you off-put for listening to the entire interview,
>>>>>>> I'd ask you read the following for the full context and reconsider:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WRIGHT: This gentleman has some KSL connections that we’ll talk
>>>>>>> about some other time, but I want to really get into the motivation, what
>>>>>>> caused you to want to get into this race; you’ve got a PhD, you’re running
>>>>>>> as a Libertarian, so let’s just set the stage. Give us a little background
>>>>>>> on you and why you are in this race.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BUCHMAN: You know Doug, when I walked into your waiting room, I see
>>>>>>> there in the lobby, huge letters on the wall, “A Light of Truth in the
>>>>>>> World.” The truth that I run on is the foundation of Libertarian politics
>>>>>>> which is the fundamental principle in our philosophy that drives our
>>>>>>> politics, our ethics, our morality and those other fields of philosophy of
>>>>>>> which politics is one, is pretty simple, that is that no human being should
>>>>>>> have the right to initiate force, violence against others, to initiate
>>>>>>> force. And then the second core principle is that you either own your
>>>>>>> physical body, it’s yours to do with as you see fit, or you’re part slave;
>>>>>>> you’re owned by someone else. So we take the principles of non-initiation
>>>>>>> of aggression and self-ownership and we apply them to politics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like you said, I am a college professor, that’s where I am coming
>>>>>>> from. I am not running to win, the chances of a Libertarian winning the
>>>>>>> Third District in Utah are not impossible; I’m swinging; I’m going to go
>>>>>>> for it; I’m giving it everything I have . . .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WRIGHT: right . . .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BUCHMAN: . . . if I can get Rosie O’ Donnell to retweet something,
>>>>>>> who knows . . .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> WRIGHT: It worked for Dr. Allen.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BUCHMAN: . . . or Drew Carey, or Penn & Teller or some other
>>>>>>> Libertarians who we are reaching out to, who knows? Anything is possible;
>>>>>>> but primarily I am running, first of all, to get into the debates. We need
>>>>>>> a Libertarian voice in the debates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My email to Americans for Prosperity:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Joseph Buchman <drbuchman at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> Date: Sat, Jul 8, 2017 at 3:45 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Third District Candidate debate
>>>>>>> To: infout at afphq.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am writing as the Libertarian Party of Utah's candidate for the
>>>>>>> Third District to request inclusion in the debates sponsored by Americans
>>>>>>> For Prosperity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See, for example, https://www.facebook.
>>>>>>> com/photo.php?fbid=10154532862572120&set=gm.1744266952269118
>>>>>>> &type=3&theater
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am on the ballot as a General Election candidate for this office,
>>>>>>> see:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://elections.utah.gov/election-resources/2017-candidate-filings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In the absence of an invitation to participate in your debates, may
>>>>>>> I inquire of the standards/process for your selection of candidates?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for your attention to this request,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> These debates were announced on Friday; the first debate is to be
>>>>>>> held tomorrow (Tuesday evening). I'll be there either in the
>>>>>>> audience or on the stage. See:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.sltrib.com/news/5485360-155/two-debates-set-for-t
>>>>>>> hree-republican
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And while they are now being repurposed as for the "Republican
>>>>>>> primary candidates only" please note the portion of the article which
>>>>>>> indicates the Democrat was invited.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Democrat Kathie Allen — who's raised nearly $700,000 in donations —
>>>>>>> did not respond to an invitation to join the event, Everton said."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Evelyn Everton is the Utah State Director for Americans for
>>>>>>> Prosperity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Again any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I hope you'll listen to the entire KSL interview and form your own
>>>>>>> opinion of it. I'm sure I could have done better and continue to seek your
>>>>>>> constructive feedback as well as help in having Americans for Prosperity
>>>>>>> include the Libertarian in their debates.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again for your consideration,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________
>>>>>>> Joseph G. Buchman, PhD
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 584 Hillside Circle
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alpine UT 84004
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +++++++++++
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ---------Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:34 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Very good points Starchild and both views are represented in our
>>>>>>> membership.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I certainly hope we don't divisively "take sides" on that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 6:07 AM Starchild <sfdreamer at earthlink.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ken,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're certainly not the first Libertarian to express a disappointed
>>>>>>> emotional reaction to a candidate's realistic appraisal of his or her
>>>>>>> chances, but to you and any other Libertarian who has felt this way, I say
>>>>>>> take heart! One can lose in conventional terms and still win in libertarian
>>>>>>> terms. A *conventional* win means the warm body you
>>>>>>> support occupying the sought-after office. A *libertarian* win,
>>>>>>> however, means advancing the cause of freedom! Such wins can happen in any
>>>>>>> number of ways – building momentum for a future run, exposing more people
>>>>>>> to libertarian ideas, building the party, etc. Of course the cause of
>>>>>>> freedom is *usually* more likely to be advanced by a Libertarian
>>>>>>> occupying the sought-after office than by not occupying it – but it isn't
>>>>>>> the be-all, end-all it's too often made out to be. In some ways, the real
>>>>>>> fight begins *after* an election is won. If an elected Libertarian
>>>>>>> isn't mentally prepared to stick to his or her libertarian principles and
>>>>>>> positions, or doesn't have solidly libertarian principles or positions to
>>>>>>> begin with, the real, post-election fight for what s/he will do in office
>>>>>>> is as good as lost. Amid the statist culture and pressures in which s/he
>>>>>>> will be immersed, such an elected Libertarian will have little chance of
>>>>>>> surviving with an agenda to advance the cause of freedom intact.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Predicting* an election loss also isn't the same thing as
>>>>>>> *conceding*. When a candidate *concedes* a race, s/he is saying
>>>>>>> "the campaign is over, my opponent won". Clearly Joe Buchman is saying no
>>>>>>> such thing! From appearances, he is running and will continue to run a
>>>>>>> vigorous campaign and seek as much exposure for our ideas and as many votes
>>>>>>> as possible. He is running to win in libertarian terms. But is it wise to
>>>>>>> predict a loss at the ballot box? While miracles occasionally do happen
>>>>>>> and I've suggested candidates leave the perceptions door open by not
>>>>>>> entirely ruling out the possibility of getting elected, I would much rather
>>>>>>> see a Libertarian fighting a long-shot campaign – and this is obviously a
>>>>>>> long-shot campaign; no Libertarian has come close to being elected to
>>>>>>> Congress – say flat-out that s/he won't win, than to flat-out say that s/he
>>>>>>> will. Any candidate facing those kind of odds who predicts electoral
>>>>>>> victory is either deceiving him/herself, or attempting to deceive others.
>>>>>>> The former shows a poor grasp of reality, while the latter shows a lack of
>>>>>>> integrity. Neither reflects well on the candidate! Joe, by contrast, showed
>>>>>>> his good character by giving an honest and realistic assessment of his
>>>>>>> chances. For every person out there who thinks, 'I want to vote for someone
>>>>>>> who tells me s/he's going to win', I believe there's another person out
>>>>>>> there thinking, 'I want to vote for someone who has integrity and tells the
>>>>>>> truth'. To which type of voter mentality should we, as the Party of
>>>>>>> Principle, be trying to appeal?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Love & Liberty,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ((( starchild )))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RealReform at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (415) 625-FREE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @StarchildSF
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:00 AM, Ken Moellman wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I found out about this campaign yesterday (now, 2 days ago) and the
>>>>>>> referenced KSL interview almost immediately starts with the candidate
>>>>>>> saying "I'm not going to win." It made me sad. More importantly, I can't
>>>>>>> agree to give money to someone who has already conceded the race. I mean,
>>>>>>> what is the money going to be used for? Losing better?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> By contrast, from what I can see, candidates like Laura Ebke and at
>>>>>>> least one of the recent converts in NH are gearing up re-election campaigns
>>>>>>> with the intent to win. They certainly haven't publicly conceded, anyway.
>>>>>>> There are lots of candidates throughout the country gearing up for 2018
>>>>>>> races. 4 L converts and many other candidates looking to run winnable
>>>>>>> races.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this body decides to support candidates, I'd really rather see
>>>>>>> this body support candidates that are running to win.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 2:18 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello everyone, I received the below request from Dr. Joe Buchman
>>>>>>> (Utah) and have been speaking with him about this for the past few weeks.
>>>>>>> I would like us to consider assisting him to our maximum allowed of 5K.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ========
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To the members of the LNC:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The resignation of Representative Chaffetz nine days ago from the
>>>>>>> Third District of Utah has created a Special Election to be held 7
>>>>>>> November 2017.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe Buchman is the Libertarian Candidate for that seat and following
>>>>>>> a special election convention by the Libertarian Party of Utah is on the
>>>>>>> ballot for November 7th. There is a Democratic opponent. Three
>>>>>>> Republicans will face each other in a primary next month.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See: https://elections.utah.gov/election-resources/2017-cand
>>>>>>> idate-filings
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is, we believe, the only remaining contest for federal office
>>>>>>> in 2017 with a Libertarian candidate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To date Dr. Buchman has invested $1,000.00 of his personal funds in
>>>>>>> the campaign and has raised approximately $250.00 from other donors, with
>>>>>>> promises for about $500 in process.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe has just been scheduled as the sole guest for the first hour of
>>>>>>> Coast to Coast AM, a national networked late-night radio talk show with an
>>>>>>> estimated *2.5 million listeners*, for *Saturday** evening, July
>>>>>>> 29th, 10:05PM to 11:00PM Pacific time*. Past show hosts Art Bell
>>>>>>> and Rollye James were self-identified Libertarians, and past guests have
>>>>>>> included Judge Jim Gray, Michael Badnarik, Aaron Russo, Harry Browne, Andre
>>>>>>> Marrou and Dr. Buchman himself (in 2008, when he last ran for the US
>>>>>>> Congress).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> See: http://www.coasttocoastam.com/search/?query=libertarian
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe will be discussing his campaign for the US Congress, his
>>>>>>> platform as an expression of the NAP and Self-Ownership paradigms, will be
>>>>>>> directing listeners to his website and will be requesting donations. The
>>>>>>> Coast to Coast website will also provide a link to his campaign site -
>>>>>>> www.GotoL.vote
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is a request for national party funding for this singularly
>>>>>>> important Special Election campaign.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The resignation of Representative Chaffetz has already generated
>>>>>>> significant national media attention, and this race is likely to continue
>>>>>>> to generate national media coverage as the replacement of Congressman
>>>>>>> Chaffetz will reflect, to some degree, a measure of voter confidence in the
>>>>>>> Trump administration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Libertarian Party nationally will benefit from this election,
>>>>>>> the last of 2017 to include a Libertarian candidate for federal office.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If a funding agreement can be reached prior to the show, Dr. Buchman
>>>>>>> would then appeal to Coast to Coast listeners with a promise that any
>>>>>>> donations received during the show will be matched dollar-for-dollar. The
>>>>>>> show will be replayed and will also be available as a download from the
>>>>>>> network website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe has been interviewed by three local papers (the Salt Lake
>>>>>>> Tribune, Deseret News and City Weekly) and by KSL Radio's Doug Wright.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That 9 minute radio interview can be found at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.ksl.com/?nid=1388&a=11898
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottom line: Joe is experienced with media interviews, had a prior
>>>>>>> career in radio (including working with Bill Redpath at WTTS radio in the
>>>>>>> 1970s), is passionate about both Libertarian political pragmatism and
>>>>>>> philosophy, *and is currently scheduled for one of the most visible
>>>>>>> media appearances by any Libertarian Candidate this month* (and
>>>>>>> perhaps for the remainder of this year).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This special election creates something of a special case for
>>>>>>> funding; an amount equivalent to that provided to the recent candidate in
>>>>>>> Montana would seem equitable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With gratitude for your consideration of this request,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> PS If you do choose to listen to the KSL interview and/or to review
>>>>>>> the website and links to the print interviews there; ALL feedback,
>>>>>>> suggestions for improvement are also welcomed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
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>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
>>>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org/>
>>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Lnc-business mailing list
>>>>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>>>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
>> <http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Lnc-business mailing list
>> Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> http://hq.lp.org/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business_hq.lp.org
>>
>>
>
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>
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Colorado State Coordinator, Libertarian Party Radical Caucus
<http://www.lpradicalcaucus.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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