[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation
Daniel Hayes
danielehayes at icloud.com
Wed Jul 19 00:26:01 EDT 2017
I second that strongly.
Daniel Hayes
LNC At Large Member
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> On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:37 PM, goldsteinatlarge <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com> wrote:
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> This committee will be LNC or Alternates in my proposal. We are selected by the delegates or regions to make this type decision, not volunteers who answer to no one.
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> sam
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> From: David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net>
> Date: 7/18/17 11:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation
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> Sam,
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> I suggest that the motion include a committee selection method (appointed and/or volunteer). Since this will obviously be an important committee of interest to us all, I suggest that the motion specify a minimum of three LNC members and two non-LNC members [substitute your own numbers].
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> ~David
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> 2018 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention
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> ~David Pratt Demarest
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> LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
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> LSLA Vice-Chair
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> LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary
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> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Sam Goldstein
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:28 PM
> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation
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> Yes, I'm working on a motion to create a Candidate Support Committee to be tasked with first
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> developing a set of guidelines (subject to LNC approval) for LNC contributions to individual
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> candidates other than POTUS. Once the guidelines are approved the committee will submit
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> a proposed budget as a new line item for the 2018 LNC Budget then will administer the distribution
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> of funds. The Committee might also be tasked with supporting the new Candidate Support Specialist
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> position, if we so choose.
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> Any ideas about motion formulation will be appreciated.
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> Live Free,
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> Sam Goldstein
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> Libertarian National Committee
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> Member at Large
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> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
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> Indianapolis IN 46260
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> 317-850-0726 Phone
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> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Our colleague from Indiana has told us he plans to introduce a motion in August.
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> Joshua A. Katz
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> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
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> What committee would be charged with coming up with these guidelines? Another committee? I'm pretty busy so I don't think I want to commit to direct action on another committee. But as a former campaign manager, and former candidate, I would like to give some suggested guidelines or watermarks.
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> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:42 PM, David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
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> I hope I am proved wrong but it looks like we have a vicious circle – Continuing ‘No’ votes on candidate support motions until we develop guidelines and no appointees or volunteers so far to develop guidelines.
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> Am I missing something here?
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> I am sure there are more qualified LNC and LP members but I will volunteer to be part of an effort to develop candidate support guidelines. We will need a strong leader to meet this challenge. Is this a matter of Nick either appointing a committee leader and supporting committee members or soliciting volunteers? I suggest that both LNC and non-LNC members be part of this initiative. Any other volunteers? Might be a good opportunity for new or aspiring LNC members.
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> Thoughts?
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> ~David
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> 2018 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention
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> ~David Pratt Demarest
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> LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
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> LSLA Vice-Chair
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> LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary
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> Cell: 402-981-6469
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> Home: 402-493-0873
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> From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Brett Bittner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:47 PM
> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation
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> TL; DR - I vote nay on email ballot 2017-16.
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> My thoughts: I find myself in the same situation as I did when the Wicks motion was presented. At that time, promises to come up with a procedure we made (and we even delayed considering a request from Senator Ebke for that procedure to be in place), yet action has yet to materialize. I believe that our first duty is to win elections, and without a process to vet funding requests, we are ill-equipped to determine which campaigns should receive our limited funds.
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> As both Arvin and Sam have outlined my concerns, I don't feel the need to reiterate them.
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> I appreciate Dr. Buchman's many years of service to the Party and as an activist, and I think very highly of him. I also enjoyed seeing his debate performance online, and I think he did a tremendous job of offering a different perspective in that debate.
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> Unfortunately, I believe that we will never create a process for these type of requests if we continue to fulfill them in the ad hoc manner from our limited funds. As such, I must cast a nay vote. I will continue to do so for all candidate funding requests until we've established a process to vet such requests.
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> Brett C. Bittner
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> Region 3 Representative
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> Libertarian National Committee
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> brett.bittner at lp.org
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> **This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
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> On Jul 17, 2017 07:17, "Patrick McKnight" <patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I vote no.
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> Patrick McKnight
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> Region 8 Rep
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> On Jul 17, 2017 12:07 AM, "James Lark" <jwl3s at eservices.virginia.edu> wrote:
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> Dear colleagues:
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> I hope all is well with you. I am writing in my capacity as Region 5 representative to vote "nay" on the motion.
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> As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
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> Take care,
> Jim
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> James W. Lark, III
> Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering
> Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society
> Affiliated Faculty, Dept. of Statistics
> University of Virginia
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> Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
> University of Virginia
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> Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
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> On 7/15/2017 4:15 AM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
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> We have an electronic mail ballot.
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> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 25, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
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> Co-Sponsors: Harlos, Bilyeu, Demarest, Starchild
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> Motion: for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to support the Congressional campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah)
> -Alicia
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