[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation

Wed Jul 19 00:34:58 EDT 2017

I'm open to majority LNC but allowing non LNC to tap into other talent.

I presume this and Starchild's will be on the August agenda?

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 10:27 PM Daniel Hayes <danielehayes at icloud.com>
wrote:

> I second that strongly.
>
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Jul 18, 2017, at 10:37 PM, goldsteinatlarge <goldsteinatlarge at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> This committee will be LNC or Alternates in my proposal.  We are selected
> by the delegates or regions to make this type decision, not volunteers who
> answer to no one.
>
> sam
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> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: David Demarest <dpdemarest at centurylink.net>
> Date: 7/18/17 11:24 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation
>
> Sam,
>
>
>
> I suggest that the motion include a committee selection method (appointed
> and/or volunteer). Since this will obviously be an important committee of
> interest to us all, I suggest that the motion specify a minimum of three
> LNC members and two non-LNC members [substitute your own numbers].
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> ~David
>
>
>
> *2018 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention*
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>
>
> *Freedom, Nothing More, Nothing Less*
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>
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
>
> LSLA Vice-Chair
>
> LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary
>
> Cell:      402-981-6469
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> Home: 402-493-0873
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> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
> <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Sam Goldstein
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:28 PM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation
>
>
>
> Yes, I'm working on a motion to create a Candidate Support Committee to be
> tasked with first
>
> developing a set of guidelines (subject to LNC approval) for LNC
> contributions to individual
>
> candidates other than POTUS.  Once the guidelines are approved the
> committee will submit
>
> a proposed budget as a new line item for the 2018 LNC Budget then will
> administer the distribution
>
> of funds.  The Committee might also be tasked with supporting  the new
> Candidate Support Specialist
>
> position, if we so choose.
>
>
>
> Any ideas about motion formulation will be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Live Free,
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>
> Sam Goldstein
>
> Libertarian National Committee
>
> Member at Large
>
> 8925 N Meridian St, Ste 101
>
> Indianapolis IN 46260
>
> 317-850-0726 Phone
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> 317-582-1773 Fax
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>
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:10 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Our colleague from Indiana has told us he plans to introduce a motion in
> August.
>
>
> Joshua A. Katz
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> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:03 PM, Ken Moellman <lpky at mu-net.org> wrote:
>
> What committee would be charged with coming up with these guidelines?
> Another committee?   I'm pretty busy so I don't think I want to commit to
> direct action on another committee.  But as a former campaign manager, and
> former candidate, I would like to give some suggested guidelines or
> watermarks.
>
>
>
> ken
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>
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> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 8:42 PM, David Demarest <
> dpdemarest at centurylink.net> wrote:
>
> I hope I am proved wrong but it looks like we have a vicious circle –
> Continuing ‘No’ votes on candidate support motions until we develop
> guidelines and no appointees or volunteers so far to develop guidelines.
>
>
>
> Am I missing something here?
>
>
>
> I am sure there are more qualified LNC and LP members but I will volunteer
> to be part of an effort to develop candidate support guidelines. We will
> need a strong leader to meet this challenge. Is this a matter of Nick
> either appointing a committee leader and supporting committee members or
> soliciting volunteers? I suggest that both LNC and non-LNC members be part
> of this initiative. Any other volunteers? Might be a good opportunity for
> new or aspiring LNC members.
>
>
>
> Thoughts?
>
>
>
> ~David
>
>
>
> *2018 Omaha Roads to Liberty Un-Convention*
>
>
>
> ~David Pratt Demarest
>
> LNC Region 6 Representative (IA, IL, MN, MO, ND, NE, WI)
>
> LSLA Vice-Chair
>
> LPNE State Central Committee, Secretary
>
> Cell:      402-981-6469 <(402)%20981-6469>
>
> Home: 402-493-0873 <(402)%20493-0873>
>
>
>
> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *Brett Bittner
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 18, 2017 6:47 PM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-16: Joe Buchman Donation
>
>
>
> TL; DR - I vote nay on email ballot 2017-16.
>
>
>
> My thoughts: I find myself in the same situation as I did when the Wicks
> motion was presented. At that time, promises to come up with a procedure we
> made (and we even delayed considering a request from Senator Ebke for that
> procedure to be in place), yet action has yet to materialize. I believe
> that our first duty is to win elections, and without a process to vet
> funding requests, we are ill-equipped to determine which campaigns should
> receive our limited funds.
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>
> As both Arvin and Sam have outlined my concerns, I don't feel the need to
> reiterate them.
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>
>
> I appreciate Dr. Buchman's many years of service to the Party and as an
> activist, and I think very highly of him. I also enjoyed seeing his debate
> performance online, and I think he did a tremendous job of offering a
> different perspective in that debate.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, I believe that we will never create a process for these
> type of requests if we continue to fulfill them in the ad hoc manner from
> our limited funds. As such, I must cast a nay vote. I will continue to do
> so for all candidate funding requests until we've established a process to
> vet such requests.
>
>
>
> Brett C. Bittner
>
>
>
> Region 3 Representative
>
> Libertarian National Committee
>
>
>
> brett.bittner at lp.org
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> 317.537.8344 <(317)%20537-8344>
>
> **This message sent from my phone. Please excuse any typos.
>
>
>
> On Jul 17, 2017 07:17, "Patrick McKnight" <
> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
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> I vote no.
>
>
>
> Patrick McKnight
>
> Region 8 Rep
>
>
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> On Jul 17, 2017 12:07 AM, "James Lark" <jwl3s at eservices.virginia.edu>
> wrote:
>
> Dear colleagues:
>
>     I hope all is well with you.  I am writing in my capacity as Region 5
> representative to vote "nay" on the motion.
>
>     As always, thanks for your work for liberty.
>
>     Take care,
>     Jim
>
>     James W. Lark, III
>     Dept. of Systems and Information Engineering
>     Applied Mathematics Program, Dept. of Engineering and Society
>     Affiliated Faculty, Dept. of Statistics
>     University of Virginia
>
>     Advisor, The Liberty Coalition
>     University of Virginia
>
>     Region 5 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> -----
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> On 7/15/2017 4:15 AM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
>
> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>
>
>
> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by July 25, 2017 at 11:59:59pm
> Pacific time.*
> *Co-Sponsors:*  Harlos, Bilyeu, Demarest, Starchild
>
> *Motion:*  for the LNC to contribute $5,000 to support the Congressional
> campaign of Joe Buchman (Utah)
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
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