[Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report

Fri Aug 11 09:06:35 EDT 2017

Caryn Ann,

Being defensive and mischaracterizing my statements is also not helpful.

I only need a few minutes to present my proposal.

Thanks,
Patrick McKnight

On Aug 11, 2017 9:02 AM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
wrote:

> And here is another reason- to say no plans is simply not accurate.
> Perhaps I just see more of what is happening since I interact with staff
> more than usual and am on the APRC (which means I see every single piece of
> output).  The staff effort is amazing.  Lauren, Jess, and Andy are bringing
> us to a new level of professionalism and thus attractiveness.  There has
> been several years of branding and infrastructure building.  The press
> secretary position will add another dimension. Nurturing relationships with
> larger donors (we have to have funds to do anything) is from what I can see
> better than ever.
>
> You get much more support by realistically assessing what we are doing
> well, and what can be a lot better otherwise it is basically just scolding
> people and ignoring what we have done.
>
> I think Larry would tell us that's not how to motivate to greatness.
>
> Some of the things done have been stunning.  Others not so much so.
>
> But a circular firing squad never does.
>
> Let's come to the table with more ideas.
>
> How long should we put on the Agenda Patrick?
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:50 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It's not defensive- it's tired of talk and this same speech.
>>
>> Doing is better than talking.  I support your email idea.
>>
>> I was wondering what everyone did since last meeting.
>>
>> Yelling at the rest of the LNC isn't helpful.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:46 AM Patrick McKnight <
>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Jason,
>>>
>>> That's fantastic! Congratulations! Do you have some best practices you
>>> can share? NJ registered voters are also exploding, but we haven't been
>>> able to convert that into national memberships which is what's at issue.
>>> Have you also experienced that in Nevada?
>>>
>>> Caryn Ann, thank you as always for your hard work. But I'm not sure why
>>> you are getting so defensive, with all due respect this isn't about "you".
>>> This is about the fact we are a national organizations without a national
>>> strategy to stop losing members. Is our national strategy for LNC members
>>> to call people in their free time? That's a nice gesture but I don't see
>>> that as a solution. I suspect there is something wrong with our brand and
>>> the way we are messaging our principles. But at this point I don't think
>>> anyone really knows because we haven't asked our members for their feedback.
>>>
>>> I have made a suggestion that we do a survey of our members to gather
>>> this information. Then we can use this data to construct a strategy.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Patrick McKnight
>>> LNC Region 8
>>> Chair, NJLP
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How many LNC members took me up on my challenge to call lapsed members?
>>>>
>>>> It's easy to say what others or "we" should do.
>>>>
>>>> The last time you said this Patrick I took it to heart and *I* did
>>>> something.
>>>>
>>>> I call lapsed members nearly every day.
>>>>
>>>> It's hard to get people on the phone, but when I do (do we want the
>>>> truth?) this is what I hear in order of frequency:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Economy is bad and they lost their job
>>>> 2. They've been a member and they felt we're no longer representing
>>>> what we claim to (i.e. the last election was a missed opportunity, the
>>>> candidates did not represent a different enough liberty message)
>>>> 3. Waxing and waning interest in politics concurrent with the election
>>>> seasons
>>>>
>>>> That is what I hear.  The stories of number 1 are heartbreaking.  I've
>>>> gotten my rear chewed out with stories of 2 and managed to retain some of
>>>> them by being nice and letting them yell.
>>>>
>>>> My effort alone is obviously a drop in a sea. But I decided to be part
>>>> of the solution.
>>>>
>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:21 AM Patrick McKnight <
>>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't understand why our declining membership isn't our number one
>>>>> priority as an organization. These reports come out showing we have a real
>>>>> problem and no one seems to notice. Too often the LNC is too busy having
>>>>> pointless philosophical debates amongst ourselves while people are voting
>>>>> with their feet and leaving the party.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like us to do an email survey of our membership to determine
>>>>> what people like and don't like about the party. I don't accept this
>>>>> culture of failure that since our numbers went up last year they have to go
>>>>> down this year.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't pretend to have all the answers to this problem. But I think a
>>>>> good place to start is simply asking our membership. It would be free and
>>>>> we might learn something.
>>>>>
>>>>> Interest in liberty is exploding, if our numbers don't reflect that we
>>>>> are doing something wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>> LNC Region 8 Rep
>>>>> Chair, New Jersey Libertarian Party
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Robert Kraus <robert.kraus at lp.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Attached thank you for pointing that out!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Live Free!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Robert*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>>>>>> Operations at LP.org
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <(202)%20333-0008>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LP FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/libertarians
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Aaron Starr
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 4:32 PM
>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org; lnc-business at lp.org; 'LP-State
>>>>>> Chairs'; staff at lp.org
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For some reason the report compares July 2017 with June 2016, so the
>>>>>> prior year data point did not get updated from last month’s report.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you revise this report to compare July 2017 with July 2016?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Aaron Starr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (805) 583-3308 Home
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (805) 404-8693 Mobile
>>>>>>
>>>>>> starrcpa at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>> Behalf Of *Robert Kraus
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:32 AM
>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at lp.org; 'LP-State Chairs'; staff at lp.org
>>>>>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jul Membership Report is attached. Open to find out who is no longer
>>>>>> tied for 10th!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Live Free!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Robert*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>>>>>> Operations at LP.org
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1444 Duke Street
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alexandria, VA 22314
>>>>>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <(202)%20333-0008>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LP FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> --
>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
>
>
>
>
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