[Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report

Fri Aug 11 09:12:04 EDT 2017

I am not being defensive, and characterizing responses as that is the
equivalent of dismissing what someone said as hysterical.

No one can know your intent but you.  But sometimes it *is* helpful to know
how it is perceived and received and adjust accordingly.  I learned this
the hard way.  I had to have a friend pull me aside in a group I was in and
trying with all the best intentions to spur some certain activity and this
friend told me that all I ended up doing was haranguing and that people
don't respond well to that.

Perhaps this should be a longer agenda items to spur others to bring
complementary proposals?

-Caryn Ann

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 7:06 AM, Patrick McKnight <
patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:

> Caryn Ann,
>
> Being defensive and mischaracterizing my statements is also not helpful.
>
> I only need a few minutes to present my proposal.
>
> Thanks,
> Patrick McKnight
>
> On Aug 11, 2017 9:02 AM, "Caryn Ann Harlos" <carynannharlos at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> And here is another reason- to say no plans is simply not accurate.
>> Perhaps I just see more of what is happening since I interact with staff
>> more than usual and am on the APRC (which means I see every single piece of
>> output).  The staff effort is amazing.  Lauren, Jess, and Andy are bringing
>> us to a new level of professionalism and thus attractiveness.  There has
>> been several years of branding and infrastructure building.  The press
>> secretary position will add another dimension. Nurturing relationships with
>> larger donors (we have to have funds to do anything) is from what I can see
>> better than ever.
>>
>> You get much more support by realistically assessing what we are doing
>> well, and what can be a lot better otherwise it is basically just scolding
>> people and ignoring what we have done.
>>
>> I think Larry would tell us that's not how to motivate to greatness.
>>
>> Some of the things done have been stunning.  Others not so much so.
>>
>> But a circular firing squad never does.
>>
>> Let's come to the table with more ideas.
>>
>> How long should we put on the Agenda Patrick?
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:50 AM Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It's not defensive- it's tired of talk and this same speech.
>>>
>>> Doing is better than talking.  I support your email idea.
>>>
>>> I was wondering what everyone did since last meeting.
>>>
>>> Yelling at the rest of the LNC isn't helpful.
>>>
>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:46 AM Patrick McKnight <
>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jason,
>>>>
>>>> That's fantastic! Congratulations! Do you have some best practices you
>>>> can share? NJ registered voters are also exploding, but we haven't been
>>>> able to convert that into national memberships which is what's at issue.
>>>> Have you also experienced that in Nevada?
>>>>
>>>> Caryn Ann, thank you as always for your hard work. But I'm not sure why
>>>> you are getting so defensive, with all due respect this isn't about "you".
>>>> This is about the fact we are a national organizations without a national
>>>> strategy to stop losing members. Is our national strategy for LNC members
>>>> to call people in their free time? That's a nice gesture but I don't see
>>>> that as a solution. I suspect there is something wrong with our brand and
>>>> the way we are messaging our principles. But at this point I don't think
>>>> anyone really knows because we haven't asked our members for their feedback.
>>>>
>>>> I have made a suggestion that we do a survey of our members to gather
>>>> this information. Then we can use this data to construct a strategy.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>> LNC Region 8
>>>> Chair, NJLP
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>>>> carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> How many LNC members took me up on my challenge to call lapsed members?
>>>>>
>>>>> It's easy to say what others or "we" should do.
>>>>>
>>>>> The last time you said this Patrick I took it to heart and *I* did
>>>>> something.
>>>>>
>>>>> I call lapsed members nearly every day.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's hard to get people on the phone, but when I do (do we want the
>>>>> truth?) this is what I hear in order of frequency:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Economy is bad and they lost their job
>>>>> 2. They've been a member and they felt we're no longer representing
>>>>> what we claim to (i.e. the last election was a missed opportunity, the
>>>>> candidates did not represent a different enough liberty message)
>>>>> 3. Waxing and waning interest in politics concurrent with the election
>>>>> seasons
>>>>>
>>>>> That is what I hear.  The stories of number 1 are heartbreaking.  I've
>>>>> gotten my rear chewed out with stories of 2 and managed to retain some of
>>>>> them by being nice and letting them yell.
>>>>>
>>>>> My effort alone is obviously a drop in a sea. But I decided to be part
>>>>> of the solution.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Caryn Ann
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 6:21 AM Patrick McKnight <
>>>>> patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't understand why our declining membership isn't our number one
>>>>>> priority as an organization. These reports come out showing we have a real
>>>>>> problem and no one seems to notice. Too often the LNC is too busy having
>>>>>> pointless philosophical debates amongst ourselves while people are voting
>>>>>> with their feet and leaving the party.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like us to do an email survey of our membership to determine
>>>>>> what people like and don't like about the party. I don't accept this
>>>>>> culture of failure that since our numbers went up last year they have to go
>>>>>> down this year.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't pretend to have all the answers to this problem. But I think
>>>>>> a good place to start is simply asking our membership. It would be free and
>>>>>> we might learn something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interest in liberty is exploding, if our numbers don't reflect that
>>>>>> we are doing something wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Patrick McKnight
>>>>>> LNC Region 8 Rep
>>>>>> Chair, New Jersey Libertarian Party
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:13 AM, Robert Kraus <robert.kraus at lp.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Attached thank you for pointing that out!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Live Free!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Robert*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>>>>>>> Operations at LP.org
>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <(202)%20333-0008>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Aaron Starr
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 4:32 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org; lnc-business at lp.org; 'LP-State
>>>>>>> Chairs'; staff at lp.org
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For some reason the report compares July 2017 with June 2016, so the
>>>>>>> prior year data point did not get updated from last month’s report.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can you revise this report to compare July 2017 with July 2016?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Aaron Starr
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (805) 583-3308 Home
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (805) 404-8693 Mobile
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> starrcpa at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On
>>>>>>> Behalf Of *Robert Kraus
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:32 AM
>>>>>>> *To:* lnc-business at lp.org; 'LP-State Chairs'; staff at lp.org
>>>>>>> *Subject:* [Lnc-business] Jul Membership Report
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jul Membership Report is attached. Open to find out who is no longer
>>>>>>> tied for 10th!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Live Free!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Robert*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert S. Kraus - Dir of Operations
>>>>>>> Operations at LP.org
>>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1444 Duke Street
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alexandria, VA 22314
>>>>>>> Ph: 202.333.0008 x 231 <(202)%20333-0008>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Join today: https://www.lp.org/membership
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LP FB Page: https://www.facebook.com/libertarians
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>> *We defend your rights*
>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>> --
>>> *In Liberty,*
>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>
>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>> *We defend your rights*
>>> *And oppose the use of force*
>>> *Taxation is theft*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>> *In Liberty,*
>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>
>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> *We defend your rights*
>> *And oppose the use of force*
>> *Taxation is theft*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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