[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-19 : Yemen Resolution

Wed Nov 1 10:57:39 EDT 2017

Perhaps you are conflating the LNC and staff.

If staff finds it useful to put out a press release each day on the issue du jour, let them do it. I am sure that staff is capable of finding some outrage in government to write about.

If our candidates want to make public statements, that’s great!

As for the LNC, adopting resolutions is a waste of time. 

If we want the LNC to do something productive, I suggest we focus on hosting candidate training seminars.

Aaron Starr

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From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of David Demarest
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 5:17 AM
To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-19 : Yemen Resolution

I am puzzled as to how the LNC can help elect Libertarians, impact public opinion and strengthen the LP without public policy expressions and support for key Libertarian candidates. Time spent voting down public policy resolutions and small symbolic candidate support motions seems counter-intuitive to me. I certainly hope this does not represent putting party before principle, just like our competition, that flies in the face of our goal to differentiate the LP and attract disillusioned voters.

I hear lots of reasons for not getting stuff done. How can we change that to maximize the potential of the LNC body to accomplish Libertarian goals? Perhaps we as a body could follow the lead of inspirational accomplishments by our committees and especially the recent huge strides forward by the paid staff. Ballot access, innovative fund-raising, IT infrastructure advances and public policy statements by Nick and Wes stand out as shining examples that the LNC body can follow the lead on.

If indeed the LNC body has a ‘voice’, let it rise above bureaucratic noise and be heard.

Thoughts?

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From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf Of Aaron Starr
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 12:06 AM
To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-19 : Yemen Resolution

I vote NO.

I am of the general opinion that the LNC should not be in the business of adopting public policy motions. My opinion will likely change once someone can demonstrate that such resolutions help elect Libertarians and impact public opinion. 

Aaron Starr

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 21, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:

We have an electronic mail ballot.

Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by October 31, 2017 at 11:59:59pm Pacific time.  Trick or Treat!!

Co-Sponsor:  Sarwark

Motion:  That the LNC adopt the following resolution:

--------------------Resolution Text--------------------

A Call to End the U.S. War in Yemen and Support House Concurrent Resolution 81

Directing the President pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers Resolution to remove United States Armed Forces from unauthorized hostilities in the Republic of Yemen.

Resolved by the Libertarian National Committee (LNC)

SECTION 1. REMOVAL OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES FROM HOSTILITIES IN THE REPUBLIC OF YEMEN THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS.

(a) Findings ––The Libertarian National Committee agrees with Congress and finds the following:

(1) Whereas, Congress has the sole power to declare war under article I, section 8, of the Constitution.

(2) Whereas, a state of war has not been declared to exist with respect to the conflict between forces led by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates against the Houthi-Saleh alliance in the Republic of Yemen.

(3) Whereas, United States Armed Forces have been involved in hostilities between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh alliance, including through assisting Saudi and United Arab Emirates warplanes conducting aerial bombings in Yemen with selecting targets and by providing midair refueling services to such warplanes, amounting to millions of pounds of jet fuel delivered during thousands of Saudi and United Arab Emirates airstrikes.

(4) Whereas, according to the Department of State’s Country Reports on Terrorism 2016, the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh alliance is counterproductive to ongoing efforts by the United States to pursue Al Qaeda and its associated forces under the Authorization for the Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note).

(5) Whereas, no authorization for the use of United States Armed Forces with respect to the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh alliance in Yemen has been enacted, and no provision of law authorizes the provision of midair refueling services to warplanes of Saudi Arabia or the United Arab Emirates that are engaged in such conflict.

(6) Whereas, the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh alliance in Yemen constitutes, within the meaning of section 4(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1543(a)(1)), either hostilities or a situation where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by the circumstances into which United States Armed Forces have been introduced.

Therefore, be it resolved, the LNC supports H.Con.Res. 81 in accordance with section 3.3 of the Libertarian Party Platform, but advises complete removal of U.S. Armed Forces from the Republic of Yemen:

(b) Removal Of Armed Forces.—Pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1544(c)), Congress hereby directs the President to remove United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of Yemen, except United States Armed Forces engaged in operations directed at Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula or associated forces, by not later than the date that is 30 days after the date of the adoption of this concurrent resolution (unless the President requests and the Congress authorizes a later date), and unless and until a declaration of war or specific authorization for such use of United States Armed Forces has been enacted.

-----------------End of Resolution Text-----------------

-Alicia

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