[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-19 : Yemen Resolution

Wed Nov 1 11:04:18 EDT 2017

Excellent idea. I will co-sponsor and/or support a motion to fold a
candidate training program into the appropriate committee.

Thoughts?

~David Pratt Demarest

On Nov 1, 2017 9:58 AM, "Aaron Starr" <starrcpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Perhaps you are conflating the LNC and staff.
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> If staff finds it useful to put out a press release each day on the issue
> du jour, let them do it. I am sure that staff is capable of finding some
> outrage in government to write about.
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> If our candidates want to make public statements, that’s great!
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> As for the LNC, adopting resolutions is a waste of time.
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> If we want the LNC to do something productive, I suggest we focus on
> hosting candidate training seminars.
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> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] *On Behalf
> Of *David Demarest
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 01, 2017 5:17 AM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-19 : Yemen Resolution
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> I am puzzled as to how the LNC can help elect Libertarians, impact public
> opinion and strengthen the LP without public policy expressions and support
> for key Libertarian candidates. Time spent voting down public policy
> resolutions and small symbolic candidate support motions seems
> counter-intuitive to me. I certainly hope this does not represent putting
> party before principle, just like our competition, that flies in the face
> of our goal to differentiate the LP and attract disillusioned voters.
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> I hear lots of reasons for not getting stuff done. How can we change that
> to maximize the potential of the LNC body to accomplish Libertarian goals?
> Perhaps we as a body could follow the lead of inspirational accomplishments
> by our committees and especially the recent huge strides forward by the
> paid staff. Ballot access, innovative fund-raising, IT infrastructure
> advances and public policy statements by Nick and Wes stand out as shining
> examples that the LNC body can follow the lead on.
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> If indeed the LNC body has a ‘voice’, let it rise above bureaucratic noise
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> Thoughts?
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> ~David Pratt
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> *From:* Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
> <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Aaron Starr
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 01, 2017 12:06 AM
> *To:* lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2017-19 : Yemen Resolution
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> I vote NO.
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> I am of the general opinion that the LNC should not be in the business of
> adopting public policy motions. My opinion will likely change once someone
> can demonstrate that such resolutions help elect Libertarians and impact
> public opinion.
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> Aaron Starr
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> On Oct 21, 2017, at 11:41 PM, Alicia Mattson <agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
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> We have an electronic mail ballot.
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> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by October 31, 2017 at 11:59:59pm
> Pacific time.  Trick or Treat!!*
> *Co-Sponsor:*  Sarwark
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> *Motion:*  That the LNC adopt the following resolution:
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> --------------------Resolution Text--------------------
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> A Call to End the U.S. War in Yemen and Support House Concurrent
> Resolution 81
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> Directing the President pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers
> Resolution to remove United States Armed Forces from unauthorized
> hostilities in the Republic of Yemen.
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> Resolved by the Libertarian National Committee (LNC)
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> SECTION 1. REMOVAL OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES FROM HOSTILITIES IN THE
> REPUBLIC OF YEMEN THAT HAVE NOT BEEN AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS.
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> (a) Findings ––The Libertarian National Committee agrees with Congress and
> finds the following:
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> (1) Whereas, Congress has the sole power to declare war under article I,
> section 8, of the Constitution.
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> (2) Whereas, a state of war has not been declared to exist with respect to
> the conflict between forces led by Saudi Arabia and the United Arab
> Emirates against the Houthi-Saleh alliance in the Republic of Yemen.
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> (3) Whereas, United States Armed Forces have been involved in hostilities
> between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh alliance, including through
> assisting Saudi and United Arab Emirates warplanes conducting aerial
> bombings in Yemen with selecting targets and by providing midair refueling
> services to such warplanes, amounting to millions of pounds of jet fuel
> delivered during thousands of Saudi and United Arab Emirates airstrikes.
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> (4) Whereas, according to the Department of State’s Country Reports on
> Terrorism 2016, the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh
> alliance is counterproductive to ongoing efforts by the United States to
> pursue Al Qaeda and its associated forces under the Authorization for the
> Use of Military Force (Public Law 107–40; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note).
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> (5) Whereas, no authorization for the use of United States Armed Forces
> with respect to the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh
> alliance in Yemen has been enacted, and no provision of law authorizes the
> provision of midair refueling services to warplanes of Saudi Arabia or the
> United Arab Emirates that are engaged in such conflict.
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> (6) Whereas, the conflict between Saudi-led forces and the Houthi-Saleh
> alliance in Yemen constitutes, within the meaning of section 4(a)(1) of the
> War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1543(a)(1)), either hostilities or a
> situation where imminent involvement in hostilities is clearly indicated by
> the circumstances into which United States Armed Forces have been
> introduced.
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> Therefore, be it resolved, the LNC supports H.Con.Res. 81 in accordance
> with section 3.3 of the Libertarian Party Platform, but advises complete
> removal of U.S. Armed Forces from the Republic of Yemen:
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> (b) Removal Of Armed Forces.—Pursuant to section 5(c) of the War Powers
> Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1544(c)), Congress hereby directs the President to
> remove United States Armed Forces from hostilities in the Republic of
> Yemen, except United States Armed Forces engaged in operations directed at
> Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula or associated forces, by not later than
> the date that is 30 days after the date of the adoption of this concurrent
> resolution (unless the President requests and the Congress authorizes a
> later date), and unless and until a declaration of war or specific
> authorization for such use of United States Armed Forces has been enacted.
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> -----------------End of Resolution Text-----------------
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> -Alicia
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