[Lnc-business] First draft of 12/9/17 LNC Meeting Minutes

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Thank you Alicia!  I will take a look.


On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 9:49 PM Alicia Mattson <alicia.mattson at lp.org>
wrote:

> Below are my comments on version 1 of the New Orleans minutes.
>
> 1. On page 6 is the following passage:
>
> “Mr. Hewitt moved to postpone until a time certain of tomorrow morning to
> allow members to write up specifically what is to be released. Mr. Redpath
> seconded. After debate, this motion passed by a show of hands with the
> required 2/3 vote.”
>
> A motion to postpone to a time certain only requires a majority vote.  A
> 2/3 vote is only required if the motion makes the item a "special order",
> and the motion doesn't indicate that it was a special order.  See RONR
> (11th ed.) p. 182, lines 19-24.
>
>
> 2.  On page 12 is the following in the first paragraph of the budget
> adoption section, "He objected to continuing without this information."
>  The word "objection" has a particular parliamentary meaning, in that it is
> used to prevent adoption a motion without a formal vote.  In that instance
> there is no mention of a motion to continue without that information, so
> there's no parliamentary significance to objecting to a motion that doesn't
> exist.
>
>
> 3.  On page 16 is the following, “Mr. Goldstein moved that the LNC proceed
> to a vote on the three potential locations using ranked choice voting.  Mr.
> Marsh seconded.”  What was the outcome of that motion?  I don't see a vote
> listed, just that the LNC then did it as if the motion had been adopted.
>
>
> 4.  This is just a formatting comment rather than a parliamentary matter,
> that on page 15, when the final budget is shown, having the provisos in a
> footnote at the bottom of the page with a different subject in between
> makes it easy to miss that they are associated with the budget as amended.
> I suppose this is just a personal preference, but I find it easier to spot
> the provisos when they're embedded in the text of the minutes directly
> under the table with the budget numbers.  Just a minor suggestion for your
> consideration.
>
>
> -Alicia
>
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> > wrote:
>
>> Sam you are correct.  Ken used that language at another time in the
>> discussion, but not in the wording of that specific motion.  Got it, thank
>> you.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> My notes have Ken using that term.  I will double-check with the
>>> recording.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 8:04 AM Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have a question, less on the minutes and more on a motion that was
>>>> adopted.  The proviso to the budget about states fulfilling their
>>>> responsibilities says it can be waived by the Chair and/or the Executive
>>>> Director.  What does that mean?  Can one of them, alone, do it - and, if
>>>> so, how is that different from saying "or"?  If not, how is it different
>>>> from saying "and"?
>>>>
>>>> Also, while I appreciate the point Dr. Lark raised on the authorization
>>>> of lawsuits item, it was not the motion I had intended to make.  I will
>>>> either ask for cosponsors for an email ballot shortly, or wait until the
>>>> next meeting and request that item again.
>>>>
>>>> Joshua A. Katz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Sam Goldstein <sam.goldstein at lp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unless Mr. Moellman used the term "secret session" in his motion on
>>>>> page 6, it should be change to the proper term Executive Session.  The LNC
>>>>> has never entered a secret session since that ability is not in the Bylaws
>>>>> of the party.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Live Free,
>>>>> ---
>>>>> Sam Goldstein
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee
>>>>> 317-850-0726 <(317)%20850-0726> Cell
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2017-12-16 00:13, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Attached are the first draft minutes from the December 9-10, 2017 LNC
>>>>> meeting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please note that comments from the LNC on the minutes are due by
>>>>> December 30.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for trusting me with this.  It was quite a bit of fun.  But
>>>>> then again I like writing 107 page Regional reports.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *In Liberty,*
>>>>> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
>>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
>>>>> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
>>>>> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>> <http://www.lpcolorado.org>
>>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>
>>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
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>>>>> *And oppose the use of force*
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
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