[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of Arvin Vohra
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Apr 4 13:57:16 EDT 2018
Nailed. It.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:32 AM Justin O'Donnell <justin.odonnell at lp.org>
wrote:
> Arvin,
>
>
> You expressed a dishonest apology. “I’m Sorry, but….” Is a
> rationalization, not an apology. You deflected the issue at hand and
> launched into accusations of your own that everyone who was upset with
> your “joke” wasn’t Libertarian enough to have an opinion.
>
>
> You said “I don’t support actually shooting up a school board” but then
> went on a rant justifying why someone should be ok with such a course
> of action. As I explained when I cast my vote, it wasn’t simply your
> comment that led me to vote in favor of the motion at hand, but rather
> your response to it, and lack of a sincere apology.
>
>
> You have displayed a persistent inability to accept accountability for
> the wrong in what you’ve said, and refuse to acknowledge the gravity of
> your position and how personal posts make in public environments
> reflect on the organization simply due to the position you are in. Face
> the facts Arvin, as Vice Chair of this organization, you ARE a public
> figure, and everything you say, whether personal or political reflects
> upon this organization, and that is something that needs to be
> inherently understood by everyone aiming to serve in any capacity of
> leadership.
>
>
> In the past I have consistently defended the morality and principles
> behind your statements, even if you lacked the tact to express those
> opinions in an amicable manner yourself. However, your narcissistic and
> audacious purism is dangerous and hindering the growth of this party,
> and any actual advancement towards Liberty in our Lifetimes. How you
> say things is often much more important than what you say. It is
> perfectly possible to express radical opinions and beliefs in a manner
> that encourages independent thought rather than backlash. If your
> intent is to grow this party, and advance this movement, then I suggest
> you sincerely take a reprieve to learn a thing or two about marketing
> and communication, and how to reach people outside your own echo
> chamber.
>
>
> Justin O’Donnell
>
> LNC Region 8 (ME, NH, VT, MA, CT, NY, NJ)
>
>
>
> Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
>
>
> From: [2]Arvin Vohra
> Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 1:10 PM
> To: [3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of Arvin
> Vohra
>
>
> Since some were not able to see the facebook live video, I uploaded the
>
> video to youtube. This is the original video, unaltered.
>
>
> Given that we have at least one LNC member saying that I never
> apologized,
>
> I would like to correct the record:
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voh28CtaZsU&feature=youtu.be
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Steve Scheetz <steve.scheetz at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
>
> > I was informed that what I said could be misinterpreted as not
> voting.
>
> >
>
> > I vote yes.
>
> >
>
> > Sincerely,
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Steve Scheetz
>
> >
>
> > -----Original Message-----
>
> > From: Lnc-business [mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org] On Behalf
> Of
>
> > Alicia Mattson
>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 2:16 AM
>
> > To: Libertarian National Committee list
>
> > Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of Arvin
> Vohra
>
> >
>
> > We have an electronic mail ballot.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by April 12, 2018 at
> 11:59:59pm
>
> > Pacific time.*
>
> > *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Van Horn, Katz, Hayes, Goldstein, Redpath,
> Hewitt,
>
> > O'Donnell
>
> >
>
> > *Motion:*
>
> >
>
> > WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party holds the non-initiation of force as
> its
>
> > cardinal principle and requires each of its members certify that they
>
> > neither advocate or believe in violent means to achieve political or
> social
>
> > goals.
>
> >
>
> > RESOLVED, that the Libertarian National Committee suspends Arvin
> Vohra
>
> > from his position of Vice-Chair for sustained and repeated
> unacceptable
>
> > conduct that brings the principles of the Libertarian Party into
> disrepute,
>
> > including making and defending a statement advocating lethal violence
>
> > against state employees who are not directly threatening imminent
> physical
>
> > harm. Such action is in violation of our membership pledge. These
> actions
>
> > further endanger the survival of our movement and the security of all
> of
>
> > our members without their consent.
>
> >
>
> > -Alicia
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Arvin Vohra
>
>
> www.VoteVohra.com
>
> VoteVohra at gmail.com
>
> (301) 320-3634
>
> References
>
> 1. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
> 2. mailto:votevohra at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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Nailed. It.
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 11:32 AM Justin O'Donnell
<[1]justin.odonnell at lp.org> wrote:
Arvin,
You expressed a dishonest apology. “I’m Sorry, but….” Is a
rationalization, not an apology. You deflected the issue at hand
and
launched into accusations of your own that everyone who was upset
with
your “joke” wasn’t Libertarian enough to have an opinion.
You said “I don’t support actually shooting up a school board”
but then
went on a rant justifying why someone should be ok with such a
course
of action. As I explained when I cast my vote, it wasn’t simply
your
comment that led me to vote in favor of the motion at hand, but
rather
your response to it, and lack of a sincere apology.
You have displayed a persistent inability to accept
accountability for
the wrong in what you’ve said, and refuse to acknowledge the
gravity of
your position and how personal posts make in public environments
reflect on the organization simply due to the position you are
in. Face
the facts Arvin, as Vice Chair of this organization, you ARE a
public
figure, and everything you say, whether personal or political
reflects
upon this organization, and that is something that needs to be
inherently understood by everyone aiming to serve in any capacity
of
leadership.
In the past I have consistently defended the morality and
principles
behind your statements, even if you lacked the tact to express
those
opinions in an amicable manner yourself. However, your
narcissistic and
audacious purism is dangerous and hindering the growth of this
party,
and any actual advancement towards Liberty in our Lifetimes. How
you
say things is often much more important than what you say. It is
perfectly possible to express radical opinions and beliefs in a
manner
that encourages independent thought rather than backlash. If your
intent is to grow this party, and advance this movement, then I
suggest
you sincerely take a reprieve to learn a thing or two about
marketing
and communication, and how to reach people outside your own echo
chamber.
Justin O’Donnell
LNC Region 8 (ME, NH, VT, MA, CT, NY, NJ)
Sent from [1]Mail for Windows 10
From: [2]Arvin Vohra
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 1:10 PM
To: [3][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of
Arvin
Vohra
Since some were not able to see the facebook live video, I
uploaded the
video to youtube. This is the original video, unaltered.
Given that we have at least one LNC member saying that I never
apologized,
I would like to correct the record:
[3]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voh28CtaZsU&feature=youtu.be
On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 9:26 AM, Steve Scheetz
<[4]steve.scheetz at lp.org>
wrote:
> I was informed that what I said could be misinterpreted as not
voting.
>
> I vote yes.
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Steve Scheetz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lnc-business [mailto:[5]lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org]
On Behalf
Of
> Alicia Mattson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 2:16 AM
> To: Libertarian National Committee list
> Subject: [Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-05: Suspension of
Arvin
Vohra
>
> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>
>
> *Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by April 12, 2018 at
11:59:59pm
> Pacific time.*
> *Co-Sponsors:* Harlos, Van Horn, Katz, Hayes, Goldstein,
Redpath,
Hewitt,
> O'Donnell
>
> *Motion:*
>
> WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party holds the non-initiation of
force as
its
> cardinal principle and requires each of its members certify
that they
> neither advocate or believe in violent means to achieve
political or
social
> goals.
>
> RESOLVED, that the Libertarian National Committee suspends
Arvin
Vohra
> from his position of Vice-Chair for sustained and repeated
unacceptable
> conduct that brings the principles of the Libertarian Party
into
disrepute,
> including making and defending a statement advocating lethal
violence
> against state employees who are not directly threatening
imminent
physical
> harm. Such action is in violation of our membership pledge.
These
actions
> further endanger the survival of our movement and the security
of all
of
> our members without their consent.
>
> -Alicia
>
>
--
Arvin Vohra
[6]www.VoteVohra.com
[7]VoteVohra at gmail.com
(301) 320-3634
References
1. [8]https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
2. mailto:[9]votevohra at gmail.com
3. mailto:[10]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
- [11]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, [12]Libertarian Party of Colorado
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:justin.odonnell at lp.org
2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Voh28CtaZsU&feature=youtu.be
4. mailto:steve.scheetz at lp.org
5. mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
6. http://www.VoteVohra.com/
7. mailto:VoteVohra at gmail.com
8. https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986
9. mailto:votevohra at gmail.com
10. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
11. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
12. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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