[Lnc-business] Policy Manual 1.04 -Email Ballots

[Caryn Ann Harlos]

Perhaps:

1) Electronic Mail Ballots

Notification of an electronic mail ballot shall be made by the
Secretary by electronic mail. The notification may not contain an
argument for or against passage.  An LNC Member may change their vote
on an electronic mail ballot, provided that the change is received by
the Secretary by the deadline for return of ballots.


That makes it clear.

-Caryn Ann

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
<caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> I think so.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:38 AM brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business
> <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>>
>> That makes sense.  Perhaps it is time for a policy update?
>>
>> In Liberty,
>> K. Brent Olsen
>> Alternate, Region 4
>>
>> On 2018-08-02 00:09, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
>> > Before there were electronic mail ballots, there were mail ballots --
>> > as in USPS, snail-mail ballots.  This policy was written for a
>> > scenario when the Secretary might need to put a stamp on an envelope
>> > and send a piece of mail to each LNC member.  In that situation, the
>> > piece of mail that was sent was not to include arguments for/against
>> > the motion.  There was nothing to preclude members from phoning each
>> > other, or emailing each other as more LNC members got email accounts,
>> > to argue for or against a motion.
>> >
>> > Whenever email ballots came along, the policy just slapped
>> > "electronic" into the existing wording as an easy fix, though it
>> > doesn't really have the same impact in the age of email.
>> >
>> > The parallel application is just that when the Secretary sends out the
>> > email which starts the process, that email message should not contain
>> > debate.
>> >
>> > -Alicia
>> >
>> > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
>> > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I believe we may have been doing something incorrectly as per our
>> >> special rules.  Specifically:
>> >>
>> >> Section 1.04 ELECTRONIC MAIL BALLOT PROCEDURES
>> >>
>> >> 1) Electronic Mail Ballots 30 Electronic mail ballots shall not
>> >> include an accompanying argument for or against passage of the
>> >> motion.
>> >> Notification of an electronic mail ballot shall be made by the
>> >> Secretary by electronic mail. An LNC Member may change his or her
>> >> vote
>> >> on an electronic mail ballot, provided that the change is received
>> >> by
>> >> the Secretary by the deadline for return of ballots.
>> >>
>> >> Because when I was first elected debate was permitted in the threads
>> >> I
>> >> always interpreted this to mean that the ballot, i.e. the post by
>> >> the
>> >> Secretary, should not include any argument.  But I see that in the
>> >> past, this was not the case but was interpreted to mean no debate at
>> >> all by anyone.
>> >>
>> >> I think we need clarity on this.
>> >>
>> >> Personally - I am opposed to not having debate on the email thread -
>> >> I
>> >> think it provides better results, but I think we may be violating
>> >> our
>> >> rules and that we either need to cease allowing debate or modify our
>> >> Policy Manual.
>> >>
>> >> -Caryn Ann
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> In Liberty,
>> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
>> >> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
>> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>> >>
>> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >> We defend your rights
>> >> And oppose the use of force
>> >> Taxation is theft
>>
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft