[Lnc-business] Policy Manual 1.04 -Email Ballots

[Richard Longstreth]

I would be happy to co-sponsor the version submitted by Ms harlos if she
chooses to move. I think it clarifies and is in the spirit of how we have
clearly been operating.

Richard

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018, 12:26 Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

> Perhaps:
>
> 1) Electronic Mail Ballots
>
> Notification of an electronic mail ballot shall be made by the
> Secretary by electronic mail. The notification may not contain an
> argument for or against passage.  An LNC Member may change their vote
> on an electronic mail ballot, provided that the change is received by
> the Secretary by the deadline for return of ballots.
>
>
> That makes it clear.
>
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:41 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
> > I think so.
> >
> > -Caryn Ann
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:38 AM brent.olsen--- via Lnc-business
> > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> That makes sense.  Perhaps it is time for a policy update?
> >>
> >> In Liberty,
> >> K. Brent Olsen
> >> Alternate, Region 4
> >>
> >> On 2018-08-02 00:09, Alicia Mattson via Lnc-business wrote:
> >> > Before there were electronic mail ballots, there were mail ballots --
> >> > as in USPS, snail-mail ballots.  This policy was written for a
> >> > scenario when the Secretary might need to put a stamp on an envelope
> >> > and send a piece of mail to each LNC member.  In that situation, the
> >> > piece of mail that was sent was not to include arguments for/against
> >> > the motion.  There was nothing to preclude members from phoning each
> >> > other, or emailing each other as more LNC members got email accounts,
> >> > to argue for or against a motion.
> >> >
> >> > Whenever email ballots came along, the policy just slapped
> >> > "electronic" into the existing wording as an easy fix, though it
> >> > doesn't really have the same impact in the age of email.
> >> >
> >> > The parallel application is just that when the Secretary sends out the
> >> > email which starts the process, that email message should not contain
> >> > debate.
> >> >
> >> > -Alicia
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business
> >> > <lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I believe we may have been doing something incorrectly as per our
> >> >> special rules.  Specifically:
> >> >>
> >> >> Section 1.04 ELECTRONIC MAIL BALLOT PROCEDURES
> >> >>
> >> >> 1) Electronic Mail Ballots 30 Electronic mail ballots shall not
> >> >> include an accompanying argument for or against passage of the
> >> >> motion.
> >> >> Notification of an electronic mail ballot shall be made by the
> >> >> Secretary by electronic mail. An LNC Member may change his or her
> >> >> vote
> >> >> on an electronic mail ballot, provided that the change is received
> >> >> by
> >> >> the Secretary by the deadline for return of ballots.
> >> >>
> >> >> Because when I was first elected debate was permitted in the threads
> >> >> I
> >> >> always interpreted this to mean that the ballot, i.e. the post by
> >> >> the
> >> >> Secretary, should not include any argument.  But I see that in the
> >> >> past, this was not the case but was interpreted to mean no debate at
> >> >> all by anyone.
> >> >>
> >> >> I think we need clarity on this.
> >> >>
> >> >> Personally - I am opposed to not having debate on the email thread -
> >> >> I
> >> >> think it provides better results, but I think we may be violating
> >> >> our
> >> >> rules and that we either need to cease allowing debate or modify our
> >> >> Policy Manual.
> >> >>
> >> >> -Caryn Ann
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> In Liberty,
> >> >> Caryn Ann Harlos
> >> >> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> >> >> Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> >> >> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >> >>
> >> >> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >> >> We defend your rights
> >> >> And oppose the use of force
> >> >> Taxation is theft
> >>
> > --
> > --
> > In Liberty,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos
> > Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary -
> Caryn.Ann.
> > Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> >
> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> > We defend your rights
> > And oppose the use of force
> > Taxation is theft
>
-- 
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA, WY)
Libertarian National Committee
richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300
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