[Lnc-business] (Partial) mirror of backchannel discussion

[Susan Hogarth]

  I did see Richard’s first posting and I did participate in discussion. Then came the ‘several of us are working on this backchannel’ comment and shortly thereafter a new resolution appeared with five quick cosponsors with little or   no addditional discussion.   
  
  
  
  
  Susan Jane Hogarth
  
  Region 5 Alternate
  
  919-906-2106 (tel:919-906-2106)
  
  
  
  

  
  
>   
> On Aug 17, 2018 at 6:01 AM,  <Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business (mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org)>  wrote:
>   
>   
>   
>  Susan - there was an open invitation to join that prior discussion.  
>  How is this email list any more effective when that invitation was  
>  posted and you didn't see it? How is putting more emails on this list  
>  when others have made it clear they don't want that many emails more  
>  effective?  
>  I am with Richard - a php forum is the way to go for workshopping.  
>  -Caryn Ann  
>
>  On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 3:50 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business  
>   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org>  wrote:  
>
>  Then you didn't pay attention. In advance of the motion posted, I  
>  posted a similar motion several days in advance for discussion  
>  from  
>  membership. Some contributed, most did not. While the resolution  
>  introduced was very different it did attempt to incorporate some  
>  of the  
>  ideas discussed there.  
>  Is anyone familiar with php forums. I know they can be viewable  
>  by  
>  anyone but posts can be limited to only members I'm just not sure  
>  what  
>  it would take not do I have the skillet to set something up. That  
>  may  
>  be our best option to workshop and have transparent discussion.  
>  Richard  
>
>  On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 04:40 Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business  
>   <[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org>  wrote:  
>  Although I appreciate his sincere desire for creating a  
>  workspace  
>  for  
>  lnc members I am opposed to Alex’s beginning of another list  
>  for  
>  ‘workshopping’ resolutions because I think lnc businnes should  
>  be  
>  done  
>  here on this list unless we are appointing a Resolutions  
>  Committee.  
>  However, as long as it does continue I’ll try to post relevant  
>  material  
>  here where I believe it belongs. I will not get it all. But I  
>  felt very  
>  blindsided when a motion was introduced and fully cosponsored  
>  here with  
>  what felt like zero discussion when other motions were being  
>  kicked  
>  around, and I don’t want that to keep happening.  
>  Susan Jane Hogarth  
>  Region 5 Alternate  
>  [1]919-906-2106  
>  References  
>  1. tel:919-906-2106  
>
>  --  
>  Richard Longstreth  
>  Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA,  
>  WY)  
>  Libertarian National Committee  
>  [2][3]richard.longstreth at lp.org  
>  931.538.9300  
>  References  
>  1. mailto:[4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org  
>  2. mailto:[5]richard.longstreth at lp.org  
>
>  --  
>  --  
>  In Liberty,  
>  Caryn Ann Harlos  
>  Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary  
>  - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.  
>  Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org  
>  A haiku to the Statement of Principles:  
>  We defend your rights  
>  And oppose the use of force  
>  Taxation is theft  
>
> References  
>
>  1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org  
>  2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org  
>  3. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org  
>  4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org  
>  5. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org  
>  6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org  
>
>              
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   I did see Richard’s first posting and I did participate in discussion.
   Then came the ‘several of us are working on this backchannel’ comment
   and shortly thereafter a new resolution appeared with five quick
   cosponsors with little or no addditional discussion.

   Susan Jane Hogarth

   Region 5 Alternate

   [1]919-906-2106

   On Aug 17, 2018 at 6:01 AM, <[2]Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business>
   wrote:

   Susan - there was an open invitation to join that prior discussion.
   How is this email list any more effective when that invitation was
   posted and you didn't see it?  How is putting more emails on this list
   when others have made it clear they don't want that many emails more
   effective?
   I am with Richard - a php forum is the way to go for workshopping.
   -Caryn Ann

   On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 3:50 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
   <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:

        Then you didn't pay attention. In advance of the motion posted, I
        posted a similar motion several days in advance for discussion
     from
        membership. Some contributed, most did not. While the resolution
        introduced was very different it did attempt to incorporate some
     of the
        ideas discussed there.
        Is anyone familiar with php forums. I know they can be viewable
     by
        anyone but posts can be limited to only members I'm just not sure
     what
        it would take not do I have the skillet to set something up. That
     may
        be our best option to workshop and have transparent discussion.
        Richard

      On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 04:40 Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business
      <[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
           Although I appreciate his sincere desire for creating a
   workspace
        for
           lnc members I am opposed to Alex’s beginning of another list
   for
           ‘workshopping’ resolutions because I think lnc businnes should
   be
        done
           here on this list unless we are appointing a Resolutions
        Committee.
           However, as long as it does continue I’ll try to post relevant
        material
           here where I believe it belongs. I will not get it all. But I
        felt very
           blindsided when a motion was introduced and fully cosponsored
        here with
           what felt like zero discussion when other motions were being
        kicked
           around, and I don’t want that to keep happening.
           Susan Jane Hogarth
           Region 5 Alternate
           [1]919-906-2106
        References
           1. tel:919-906-2106

        --
        Richard Longstreth
        Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA,
     WY)
        Libertarian National Committee
        [2][3]richard.longstreth at lp.org
        931.538.9300
     References
        1. mailto:[4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
        2. mailto:[5]richard.longstreth at lp.org

   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
   - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   3. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
   4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   5. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
   6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org

References

   1. tel:919-906-2106
   2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org