[Lnc-business] (Partial) mirror of backchannel discussion
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Fri Aug 17 06:13:22 EDT 2018
Richard wasn't even originally a part of it. He posted here, and I asked
if he wanted to be added and he said yes. ANYONE COULD.
It is a damned if you do, damned if you don't. If the invitation to join
wasn't even seen here (or ignored by others) why is moving everything here
a good idea? Particularly when we get the inevitable email bean counting?
Unless there is a quick cultural change here, more and more will be done
elsewhere. And as long as it is open to everyone who wants to and viewable
to the members, I am all in favour of it.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 4:09 AM, Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business <
lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> I did see Richard’s first posting and I did participate in discussion.
> Then came the ‘several of us are working on this backchannel’ comment
> and shortly thereafter a new resolution appeared with five quick
> cosponsors with little or no addditional discussion.
>
> Susan Jane Hogarth
>
> Region 5 Alternate
>
> [1]919-906-2106
>
> On Aug 17, 2018 at 6:01 AM, <[2]Caryn Ann Harlos via Lnc-business>
> wrote:
>
> Susan - there was an open invitation to join that prior discussion.
> How is this email list any more effective when that invitation was
> posted and you didn't see it? How is putting more emails on this list
> when others have made it clear they don't want that many emails more
> effective?
> I am with Richard - a php forum is the way to go for workshopping.
> -Caryn Ann
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 3:50 AM, Richard Longstreth via Lnc-business
> <[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
>
> Then you didn't pay attention. In advance of the motion posted, I
> posted a similar motion several days in advance for discussion
> from
> membership. Some contributed, most did not. While the resolution
> introduced was very different it did attempt to incorporate some
> of the
> ideas discussed there.
> Is anyone familiar with php forums. I know they can be viewable
> by
> anyone but posts can be limited to only members I'm just not sure
> what
> it would take not do I have the skillet to set something up. That
> may
> be our best option to workshop and have transparent discussion.
> Richard
>
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 04:40 Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business
> <[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
> Although I appreciate his sincere desire for creating a
> workspace
> for
> lnc members I am opposed to Alex’s beginning of another list
> for
> ‘workshopping’ resolutions because I think lnc businnes should
> be
> done
> here on this list unless we are appointing a Resolutions
> Committee.
> However, as long as it does continue I’ll try to post relevant
> material
> here where I believe it belongs. I will not get it all. But I
> felt very
> blindsided when a motion was introduced and fully cosponsored
> here with
> what felt like zero discussion when other motions were being
> kicked
> around, and I don’t want that to keep happening.
> Susan Jane Hogarth
> Region 5 Alternate
> [1]919-906-2106
> References
> 1. tel:919-906-2106
>
> --
> Richard Longstreth
> Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT, WA,
> WY)
> Libertarian National Committee
> [2][3]richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 931.538.9300
> References
> 1. mailto:[4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:[5]richard.longstreth at lp.org
>
> --
> --
> In Liberty,
> Caryn Ann Harlos
> Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
> - [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> We defend your rights
> And oppose the use of force
> Taxation is theft
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 3. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 5. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
> 6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>
> References
>
> 1. tel:919-906-2106
> 2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>
--
--
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org> or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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Richard wasn't even originally a part of it. He posted here, and I
asked if he wanted to be added and he said yes. ANYONE COULD.
It is a damned if you do, damned if you don't. If the invitation to
join wasn't even seen here (or ignored by others) why is moving
everything here a good idea? Particularly when we get the inevitable
email bean counting?
Unless there is a quick cultural change here, more and more will be
done elsewhere. And as long as it is open to everyone who wants to and
viewable to the members, I am all in favour of it.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 4:09 AM, Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business
<[1]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
I did see Richard’s first posting and I did participate in
discussion.
Then came the ‘several of us are working on this backchannel’
comment
and shortly thereafter a new resolution appeared with five quick
cosponsors with little or no addditional discussion.
Susan Jane Hogarth
Region 5 Alternate
[1]919-906-2106
On Aug 17, 2018 at 6:01 AM, <[2]Caryn Ann Harlos via
Lnc-business>
wrote:
Susan - there was an open invitation to join that prior
discussion.
How is this email list any more effective when that invitation
was
posted and you didn't see it? How is putting more emails on this
list
when others have made it clear they don't want that many emails
more
effective?
I am with Richard - a php forum is the way to go for
workshopping.
-Caryn Ann
On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 3:50 AM, Richard Longstreth via
Lnc-business
<[1][2]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Then you didn't pay attention. In advance of the motion
posted, I
posted a similar motion several days in advance for
discussion
from
membership. Some contributed, most did not. While the
resolution
introduced was very different it did attempt to incorporate
some
of the
ideas discussed there.
Is anyone familiar with php forums. I know they can be
viewable
by
anyone but posts can be limited to only members I'm just not
sure
what
it would take not do I have the skillet to set something up.
That
may
be our best option to workshop and have transparent
discussion.
Richard
On Fri, Aug 17, 2018, 04:40 Susan Hogarth via Lnc-business
<[1][2][3]lnc-business at hq.lp.org> wrote:
Although I appreciate his sincere desire for creating a
workspace
for
lnc members I am opposed to Alex’s beginning of another list
for
‘workshopping’ resolutions because I think lnc businnes
should
be
done
here on this list unless we are appointing a Resolutions
Committee.
However, as long as it does continue I’ll try to post
relevant
material
here where I believe it belongs. I will not get it all. But
I
felt very
blindsided when a motion was introduced and fully
cosponsored
here with
what felt like zero discussion when other motions were being
kicked
around, and I don’t want that to keep happening.
Susan Jane Hogarth
Region 5 Alternate
[1]919-906-2106
References
1. tel:919-906-2106
--
Richard Longstreth
Region 1 Representative (AK, AZ, CO, KS, MT, NM, OR, HI, UT,
WA,
WY)
Libertarian National Committee
[2][3][4]richard.longstreth at lp.org
931.538.9300
References
1. mailto:[4][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto:[5][6]richard.longstreth at lp.org
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [6]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:[7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto:[8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:[9]richard.longstreth at lp.org
4. mailto:[10]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
5. mailto:[11]richard.longstreth at lp.org
6. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
References
1. tel:919-906-2106
2. mailto:[13]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Libertarian Party and Libertarian National Committee Secretary
- [14]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org or Secretary at LP.org.
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee - LPedia at LP.org
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
References
1. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
2. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
3. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
4. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
5. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
6. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
7. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
8. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
9. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
10. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
11. mailto:richard.longstreth at lp.org
12. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
13. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
14. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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