[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-03: Censure of Arvin Vohra
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Sat Jan 20 22:48:10 EST 2018
I agree Joshua.
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Joshua Katz <planning4liberty at gmail.com>
wrote:
> I will figure out which email ballots to cosponsor (again, without
> saying I'll vote for them) if it turns out there are no longer 6
> members agreeing to an electronic meeting. I much prefer to discuss
> this by electronic meeting, and I think the email thread I am
> responding to demonstrates why. Issues of wording can generate long
> threads without resolution (as we've amply demonstrated) but be
> resolved in a few minutes through motions to amend. A meeting will be
> more efficient, more focused, and more decisive, in my view.
>
> Joshua A. Katz
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:33 PM, Alicia Mattson
> <[1]agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Words matter, and this is a perfect example of someone who might
> support a generic concept of censure having to oppose the details
> of
> the motion wording.
> Censure (and more) is warranted here, however, I cannot vote for
> a
> motion which claims the outrageous comments which were made by
> Mr.
> Vohra are "libertarian ideas", and that our leaders and
> candidates are
> trying to win hearts and minds for those ideas espoused by Mr.
> Vohra,
> just stated in a different way.
> Our platform says "consenting adults" and that our recognition of
> parental roles does not condone abuse. Our platform does not
> say, "If
> your having sex leads to kids that you can't afford, and we have
> to pay
> for, please don't have sex. Else: not our business." Etc.
> I still seek cosponsors for yesterday's proposed wording of a
> motion
> for suspension.
> I will formally cast my vote on this motion later, as timing may
> matter
> if there is to be an electronic meeting.
> -Alicia
>
> On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Alicia Mattson
> <[1][2]agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
> We have an electronic mail ballot.
> Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by January 30, 2018 at
> 11:59:59pm Pacific time.
> Co-Sponsors: Hayes, Hewitt, Demarest, Hagan
> Motion: to censure LNC Vice Chair Arvin Vohra for repeated public
> comments which have presented libertarian ideas in an inflammatory
> and
> sometimes offensive manner not conducive to Libertarian leaders and
> candidates for public office winning hearts and minds for those
> ideas.
> -Alicia
>
> References
> 1. mailto:[3]agmattson at gmail.com
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> [4]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> [5]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:agmattson at gmail.com
> 2. mailto:agmattson at gmail.com
> 3. mailto:agmattson at gmail.com
> 4. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 5. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>
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I agree Joshua.
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 8:42 PM, Joshua Katz
<[1]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
I will figure out which email ballots to cosponsor (again,
without
saying I'll vote for them) if it turns out there are no longer 6
members agreeing to an electronic meeting. I much prefer to
discuss
this by electronic meeting, and I think the email thread I am
responding to demonstrates why. Issues of wording can generate
long
threads without resolution (as we've amply demonstrated) but be
resolved in a few minutes through motions to amend. A meeting
will be
more efficient, more focused, and more decisive, in my view.
Joshua A. Katz
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 9:33 PM, Alicia Mattson
<[1][2]agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
Words matter, and this is a perfect example of someone who
might
support a generic concept of censure having to oppose the
details
of
the motion wording.
Censure (and more) is warranted here, however, I cannot vote
for
a
motion which claims the outrageous comments which were made by
Mr.
Vohra are "libertarian ideas", and that our leaders and
candidates are
trying to win hearts and minds for those ideas espoused by Mr.
Vohra,
just stated in a different way.
Our platform says "consenting adults" and that our recognition
of
parental roles does not condone abuse. Our platform does not
say, "If
your having sex leads to kids that you can't afford, and we
have
to pay
for, please don't have sex. Else: not our business." Etc.
I still seek cosponsors for yesterday's proposed wording of a
motion
for suspension.
I will formally cast my vote on this motion later, as timing
may
matter
if there is to be an electronic meeting.
-Alicia
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 7:03 PM, Alicia Mattson
<[1][2][3]agmattson at gmail.com> wrote:
We have an electronic mail ballot.
Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by January 30, 2018 at
11:59:59pm Pacific time.
Co-Sponsors: Hayes, Hewitt, Demarest, Hagan
Motion: to censure LNC Vice Chair Arvin Vohra for repeated
public
comments which have presented libertarian ideas in an
inflammatory
and
sometimes offensive manner not conducive to Libertarian
leaders and
candidates for public office winning hearts and minds for
those
ideas.
-Alicia
References
1. mailto:[3][4]agmattson at gmail.com
_______________________________________________
Lnc-business mailing list
[4][5]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
[5][6]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
References
1. mailto:[7]agmattson at gmail.com
2. mailto:[8]agmattson at gmail.com
3. mailto:[9]agmattson at gmail.com
4. mailto:[10]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
5. [11]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
_______________________________________________
Lnc-business mailing list
[12]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
[13]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
References
1. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
2. mailto:agmattson at gmail.com
3. mailto:agmattson at gmail.com
4. mailto:agmattson at gmail.com
5. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
6. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
7. mailto:agmattson at gmail.com
8. mailto:agmattson at gmail.com
9. mailto:agmattson at gmail.com
10. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
11. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
12. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
13. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
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