[Lnc-business] Email Ballot 2018-03: Censure of Arvin Vohra

[Ed Marsh]

I vote NO on e-mail 2018-3
 Ed Marsh
 Region 2 Rep (Florida,Georgia,
 Tennessee)
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> On Jan 23, 2018, at 11:07 AM, William Redpath <william.redpath at lp.org> wrote:
> 
> I vote "Yes" on the Vohra censure.  Bill Redpath
> 
>> On 2018-01-22 22:29, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>> I vote no.
>> ----------------
>> I might have voted in favor of the original censure motion by Jeff
>> Hewitt. This recent censure motion isn't acceptable to me, as I
>> disagree that Arvin was indeed espousing libertarian ideas.
>> My objections are twofold:
>> 1)  Libertarianism is not simply caring about ones own freedoms. It is
>> caring about freedom for EVERYONE. Believing that YOU should be free
>> from coercion, and believing that PEOPLE should be free from coercion,
>> are two different ideas. One is selfishness, the other is
>> libertarianism. Arvin's principle does not include concern for the
>> freedom of others, it is primarily concerned with the impact it has on
>> him.  If you are more concerned with money being taken from you than
>> with the safety of children, then your concern isn't about freedom.
>> It's about yourself.
>> Arvin wasn't espousing libertarian ideas. Instead it was a form of
>> ideological brutalism, which is well described by known libertarian
>> anarchist, Jeffrey Tucker. I reject the notion that this is an
>> anarchist stance versus minarchists. Instead it is a brutalization of
>> libertarianism to become an abdication of responsibility.
>> 2)  The censure is too little too late.  It's a band-aid for an gaping wound.
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>> On 2018-01-20 22:03, Alicia Mattson wrote:
>>> We have an electronic mail ballot.
>>>   Votes are due to the LNC-Business list by January 30, 2018 at
>>>   11:59:59pm Pacific time.
>>>   Co-Sponsors:  Hayes, Hewitt, Demarest, Hagan
>>>   Motion:  to censure LNC Vice Chair Arvin Vohra for repeated public
>>>   comments which have presented libertarian ideas in an inflammatory and
>>>   sometimes offensive manner not conducive to Libertarian leaders and
>>>   candidates for public office winning hearts and minds for those ideas.
>>>   -Alicia
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