[Lnc-business] I hope this article is wrong and our candidate didn't say this...

Patrick McKnight patrick.joseph.mcknight at gmail.com
Wed Jan 24 16:06:27 EST 2018


Steven,

I agree completely. Thank you for this helpful clarification.

Patrick McKnight
Region 8 Rep
Chair, NJLP

On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:36 AM, <steven.nekhaila at lp.org> wrote:

> In the future,
>
> I would recommend reaching out to the candidate personally and privately
> addressing any concerns before bringing them to the LNC and the business
> list. One way to put a damper on momentum is to accost a candidate for a
> possible media mishap. Unless a gross platform defiance occurred and
> deserved censure this is not something the LNC should be in the business of
> taking upon itself, furthermore, if there was an issue it should have been
> brought up with me or Ed Marsh or the Florida State affiliate.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Steven Nekhaila
>
>
> On 2018-01-21 09:54 PM, Starchild wrote:
>
>> Thank you for your reply, Alison. Like Caryn Ann, I'm glad to hear you
>>    say that the reporter got it wrong and you do not support legislation
>>    to punish local governments for not cooperating with federal
>>    anti-immigrant enforcement efforts.
>>
>>    Since you describe yourself as an anarcho-capitalist, I presume you
>>    consider all government laws to be fundamentally immoral and
>>    illegitimate, but given the evident confusion with what was reported,
>>    the Saratoga Herald-Tribune will probably want to hear a more specific
>>    disclaimer before publishing a correction.
>>
>>    I realize you're busy with your campaign and have asked for help, so if
>>    you will give me just a quick written statement clearly affirming that
>>    you oppose efforts to ban or crack down on "sanctuary cities" in
>>    Florida, such as the legislation described
>>    at [1]http://floridapolitics.com/archives/248759-sanctuary-city
>> -ban-bil
>>    l-makes-comeback, I will pass the information along and work on getting
>>    the paper to correct their story for the record, so that neither your
>>    campaign nor the libertarian position on immigration are
>>    mischaracterized.
>>
>>    I already left a voicemail for the reporter, Zac Anderson [he's at
>>    (941) 361-4836, or email [2]zac.anderson at heraldtribune.com], giving
>> him
>>    the heads-up that his story apparently got your position wrong and
>>    asking him to call me back. According to the paper's website, he is
>>    their political editor as well as a reporter, so I'm guessing he has
>>    authority to address the issue himself and didn't attempt to contact
>>    another editor.
>>
>>                       *          *          *
>>
>>    Regarding the immigration issue in general, here is some information I
>>    hope you or other Libertarian candidates may find helpful when
>>    communicating with the press or members of the public on this topic in
>>    the future...
>>
>>    Except with regard to the importation of slaves after 1808, the
>>    Constitution does not give Congress any authority to control
>>    immigration (who enters one of the states), only naturalization (the
>>    process of becoming a U.S. citizen). This is reflected by the fact that
>>    for the first century or so of U.S. history (until 1875), there were no
>>    federal statutes restricting entry to the United States (see
>>    [3]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_immi
>> gration_laws
>>    ). Even today, being in the country without government permission is
>>    considered by the authorities to be a civil offense, like getting a
>>    parking ticket, not a criminal offense (see e.g.
>>    [4]http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/mar/15
>> /florida-con
>>    ference-catholic-bishops/being-united-states-unlawfully-crime/).
>>
>>    However, as the scope and power of the federal government expanded,
>>    politicians felt less and less constrained by the Constitution and
>>    began to increasingly stretch and violate it in various manners. Sadly,
>>    government courts have largely acquiesced to most of these power grabs,
>>    so most people today do not realize that like the federal anti-drug
>>    laws, the federal regulation of products and services by myriad
>>    agencies, the federal "ownership" of large tracts of land in many
>>    states, etc., federal immigration laws are unconstitutional and
>>    therefore illegal.
>>
>>    Morally speaking, of course, it doesn't much matter whether a bad law
>>    is "legal" or not. Plenty of horrific abuses committed by government
>>    authorities throughout history have been perfectly legal according to
>>    the laws enacted by themselves or their colleagues. But since many
>>    people have been taught to automatically view the law as a good thing
>>    (for an enlightening discussion of this, I highly recommend watching
>>    the speech Larken Rose gave at an Independence Day rally a few years
>>    ago, online at [5]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNWnBmoFiGQ), being
>>    able to explain how you are not advocating lawbreaking when you stand
>>    up for the rights of undocumented migrants, but in fact upholding the
>>    highest law of the land, can be useful when when you are asked your
>>    position on "enforcing the law", "illegal" immigration, etc.
>>
>>    One final point � you didn't say in your reply whether the reporter's
>>    comments that you "argu(ed) that undocumented immigrants present
>>    potential health and public safety problems" were also inaccurate, but
>>    if you did say anything along those lines, I would strongly urge you to
>>    avoid such comments in the future. Virtually anyone can be accurately
>>    said to represent a potential public health or safety problem (you or I
>>    might potentially get sick, or do something unsafe in public!), but the
>>    law should never criminalize or discriminate against people on such
>>    vague grounds � no one should be detained without probable cause to
>>    suspect that a particular individual poses a credible threat to public
>>    health or safety. The mere fact of being undocumented does not make
>>    anyone a threat to public health or safety.
>>
>>    Good luck out there on the campaign trail, and don't forget that
>>    electoral victory is only a small part of the battle � your ability
>> to
>>    advance the cause of freedom as an elected official will largely depend
>>    on your ability to articulate and defend the libertarian message to
>>    your constituents and colleagues whose support you will need in order
>>    to be an effective legislator and get pro-freedom changes enacted while
>>    blocking attempts to expand the size, scope, cost, and power of
>>    government!
>>
>>    Love & Liberty,
>>
>>
>>
>>                                       ((( starchild )))
>>
>>    At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>
>>                            [6]RealReform at earthlink.net
>>
>>                                     (415) 625-FREE
>>
>>    P.S. � I'm copying Florida LP member Ryan Ramsey on this email since
>> he
>>    wrote separately to members of the LNC regarding my initial message
>>    about the Herald-Tribune article; I'll try to respond to him separately
>>    later, but am behind on constituent email lately.
>>
>>    On Jan 21, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>>    Thank you Alison that is why I wanted to hear directly from you.
>>
>>    Now go knock them dead.  Figuratively of course.
>>
>>    -Caryn Ann
>>
>>    On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:27 PM Alison Foxall
>>    <[7]alison at foxallforflorida.com> wrote:
>>
>>    To whom this may concern:
>>    "Legislation that would punish local governments that don�t fully
>>    cooperate with federal immigration authorities drew support from
>>    Libertarian Alison Foxall and criticism from Democrat Margaret Good..."
>>    I never said I supported legislation to punish local governments.
>>    Further, "drew support....and criticism" never happened because the
>>    audience didn't clap for either candidate. The journalist, Zac
>>    Anderson, definitely got those points wrong. He never directly quoted
>>    me except when I said it was a hot-button issue and I don't know why
>>    (continue reading to see why I said that).
>>    I oppose the top-down approach from the state of FL forcing local
>>    governments to enforce federal immigration laws. The GOP continues to
>>    push this. Something to note: our local law enforcement and the
>>    majority of our constituents here in Sarasota support legal immigration
>>    and do not want their city or county turned into a haven for
>>    "undocumented" peoples, so they have chosen to enforce federal laws.
>>    As a candidate for FL state house representative, in my opinion, it is
>>    wise to have a working relationship with existing local elected
>>    officials and despite what happens in different areas of the country,
>>    our Sherrif here in Sarasota is well-liked and supports the second
>>    amendment and an armed citizenry. I support the Sherrif and the City
>>    Council� and ultimately the rest of the community's decision to
>> enforce
>>    the law. It is, after all, what the constituency wants and why the
>>    Sherrif has been at his station, continuously elected for the last 10
>>    years.
>>    A question that often comes up, much more so than talking about the
>>    issues, is "how will you work with the old guard in Tallahassee [the
>>    Capital]?". Voters are legitimately considering how a Libertarian
>>    Representative would work within the Republican majority and Democratic
>>    minority. Voters are curious if I will be able to form alliances or
>>    alienate myself in the House. Something they clearly don't want is
>>    alienation.
>>    Even though I support the decisions of my constituents and their own
>>    local governance, I under no circumstance would vote at the state level
>>    to make counties or cities enforce federal immigration laws. That is up
>>    to local governments. In Florida, we have "home rule" laws and the
>>    state should not be imposing their will onto local municipalities. It
>>    is written in our state constitution. I would have very little to do
>>    when it comes to immigration issues which is why it is not present on
>>    my website. I've knocked on thousands of doors and out of all those
>>    people I have spoken to, none have ever brought up immigration. None.
>>    Sarasota does not face an "illegal" immigration "problem".
>>    So, why was it asked at a League of Women voters event? Because the GOP
>>    sent scare tactic mailers to almost all voters in the district in late
>>    December to drum up voter turnout in a special election to vote against
>>    the Democrat. They employed the same tactic early last year in a city
>>    council election. The GOP lost. Badly. Since December when that first
>>    mailer went out, immigration questions have only come up twice in
>>    public appearances. The Democrats in Sarasota on the city council have
>>    no interest in ceasing to enforce federal immigration laws, but the GOP
>>    is blowing the issue out of proportion as if it's something they want.
>>    Personally, I am not enthusiastic about the issue (neither are the
>>    DEM's here) and it's not something I go around talking about to solicit
>>    votes. My platform is largely economic and energy based, with
>>    highlights about restoring rights to felons that have finished their
>>    sentences and ending the drug war to help end the opioid crisis in our
>>    area, as well as jumpstart a hemp industry in our state.
>>    Sarasota is not like most places. 62% of its income comes from
>>    dividends, interest, and social security payouts. That will tip you off
>>    to the demographics here: older retirees. And when I say older, I mean
>>    really older, from the Silent Generation. We have more deaths in
>>    Sarasota than we do births. At least 10% of people here remember
>>    growing up during the great depression. A third of the population grew
>>    up and lived through WWII. Nearly everyone remembers the start of the
>>    Cold War, the wonders of the new space program, and Kennedy's
>>    assassination. People talk about some of these events as if they
>>    happened just a few years ago. The things they care about are what I
>>    care about. I'm trying to become their representative, after all.
>>    The libertarian facebook firing squad is a distraction from our goal of
>>    reducing government. We are nowhere near even my stepping stone dream
>>    of very limited government. Immigration laws need massive reform at the
>>    federal level and how we get there is not through me or the seat I'm
>>    trying to win. I became a Libertarian in 2014 when Adrian Wyllie made
>>    the call to change my party registration. At the time I was
>>    non-partisan and a self-described anarcho-capitalist (hence the strong
>>    platform about economic freedom). I believed that political parties
>>    were a big part of the problems our country is facing and resisted
>>    joining for some time. But after seeing the injustice of debate
>>    exclusion that Wyllie faced in Florida, and the possibility of the
>>    Libertarian Party becoming a major party by reaching 5% threshold of
>>    registered voters, I took a leap of faith and joined "the collective"
>>    of big-L Libertarians in Florida and I haven't looked back since. I
>>    figured I might as well be a part of the change, instead of not
>>    participating at all.
>>    Our campaign has received a ridiculous amount of mainstream media
>>    attention locally. TV and printed news is the preferred news
>>    consumption platform for our audience, and we've gotten a lot of it.
>>    Yesterday, the local news station came out to our canvassing assembly
>>    before we hit the streets. I am meeting with TV, radio, and news
>>    journalists every day this week. January 30th we will be in the
>>    televised debates and it is anticipated to be one of the most watched
>>    things on local television this year. I've attached some coverage that
>>    ran in this mornings paper. My photo is front and center. The article
>>    mentions we are a big wild card, campaigning aggressively, and could
>>    draw significant support. These are the kindest things a news
>>    journalist have said about a Libertarian campaign I've ever read about
>>    in Florida. This is our chance to win.
>>    I implore you all to help drum up support to win this seat instead of
>>    hampering it. We have huge momentum here on the ground, and we've
>>    already broken fundraising records for a FL Libertarian State House
>>    campaign in a special election, and are about $1,800 away from breaking
>>    the overall amount raised in any FL Libertarian State House campaign.
>>    We are making history and smashing through records from nearly 15 years
>>    ago. Libertarians in Florida are on the rise.
>>    As this email took an absorbent amount of time to write, if you have
>>    follow-up questions, please give me a call: 941-840-0369. My time
>> needs
>>    to be spent very wisely from now until election day on February 13th.
>>    This is the home stretch, the culmination of months and thousands of
>>    hours of work. I'm running to advance our movement, to grow our party,
>>    and most of all to have Libertarian representation in our state. The
>>    opportunity to win is dangling in front of us, ripe, and ready for the
>>    taking. The question is: do you really want it as much as I do?
>>    [f18dQhb0S7ks8dDMPbW2n0x6l2B9gXrN7sKj6v4dZ0vW4WJ4Tb3MPpWYN6
>> 5jGX-d3_yKW9
>>    jlCX31k1H6H0?si=4861442635857920&pi=0300150b-276f-4cc8-
>> b606-39637f4
>>    6a075&ti=undefined]
>>    Thank you,
>>    Alison Foxall
>>    Libertarian Candidate for FL House District 72
>>    Special Election, February 13th, 2018
>>    Volunteer Today: [8]foxallforflorida.com/volunteer
>>
>>    On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 2:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>    <[9]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>    I would like to hear Alison's view.
>>
>>    On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:06 AM, Starchild <[10]starchild at lp.org>
>>    wrote:
>>
>>    > SARASOTA � Legislation that would punish local governments that
>> don�t
>>    fully cooperate with federal immigration authorities drew support from
>>    Libertarian Alison Foxall and criticism from Democrat Margaret Good
>>    during a candidate forum for the state House District 72 race Tuesday.
>>    > Foxall, a Sarasota marketing company owner, noted that the so-called
>>    sanctuary cities bill � which cleared the Florida House last week
>> � has
>>    become �a very hot button issue.�
>>    >
>>    > �I don�t understand why,� Foxall said in arguing that
>> undocumented
>>    immigrants present potential health and public safety problems.
>>    (From
>>    [11]http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20180116/sarasota-sta
>> te-house-can
>>    didates-debate-immigration-guns-abortion-at-forum)
>>            I can't find anything on Alison Foxall's website about
>>    immigration one way or the other, and want to give her the benefit of
>>    the doubt that the paper got it wrong. I've copied the candidate, who
>>    is also a member of the Social Media Process Review Committee, on this
>>    message so she can address what her local paper reported.
>>            Hopefully we are not too preoccupied with policing intemperate
>>    posts on Facebook to be concerned if a Libertarian candidate is taking
>>    actual anti-libertarian positions at a public campaign event covered by
>>    the media. Allison's campaign is currently being touted in an ad on the
>>    front page of [12]LP.org.
>>    Love & Liberty,
>>                                       ((( starchild )))
>>    At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>                                    [13]starchild at lp.org
>>                                    (415) 625-FREE
>>
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>> References
>>
>>    1.
>> http://floridapolitics.com/archives/248759-sanctuary-city-
>> ban-bill-makes-comebac
>>    2. mailto:zac.anderson at heraldtribune.com
>>    3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_immigrat
>> ion_laws
>>    4.
>> http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/mar/15/
>> florida-conference-catholic-bishops/being-united-states-unlawfully-crime/
>>    5. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNWnBmoFiGQ
>>    6. mailto:RealReform at earthlink.net
>>    7. mailto:alison at foxallforflorida.com
>>    8. http://foxallforflorida.com/volunteer
>>    9. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>   10. mailto:starchild at lp.org
>>   11.
>> http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20180116/sarasota-state-ho
>> use-candidates-debate-immigration-guns-abortion-at-forum
>>   12. http://LP.org/
>>   13. mailto:starchild at lp.org
>>   14. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>>   15. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
>>
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   Steven,
   I agree completely. Thank you for this helpful clarification.
   Patrick McKnight
   Region 8 Rep
   Chair, NJLP

   On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 11:36 AM, <[1]steven.nekhaila at lp.org> wrote:

     In the future,
     I would recommend reaching out to the candidate personally and
     privately addressing any concerns before bringing them to the LNC
     and the business list. One way to put a damper on momentum is to
     accost a candidate for a possible media mishap. Unless a gross
     platform defiance occurred and deserved censure this is not
     something the LNC should be in the business of taking upon itself,
     furthermore, if there was an issue it should have been brought up
     with me or Ed Marsh or the Florida State affiliate.
     Sincerely,
     Steven Nekhaila

   On 2018-01-21 09:54 PM, Starchild wrote:

   Thank you for your reply, Alison. Like Caryn Ann, I'm glad to hear you
      say that the reporter got it wrong and you do not support
   legislation
      to punish local governments for not cooperating with federal
      anti-immigrant enforcement efforts.
      Since you describe yourself as an anarcho-capitalist, I presume you
      consider all government laws to be fundamentally immoral and
      illegitimate, but given the evident confusion with what was
   reported,
      the Saratoga Herald-Tribune will probably want to hear a more
   specific
      disclaimer before publishing a correction.
      I realize you're busy with your campaign and have asked for help, so
   if
      you will give me just a quick written statement clearly affirming
   that
      you oppose efforts to ban or crack down on "sanctuary cities" in
      Florida, such as the legislation described
      at [1][2]http://floridapolitics.com/archives/248759-sanctuary-city
   -ban-bil
      l-makes-comeback, I will pass the information along and work on
   getting
      the paper to correct their story for the record, so that neither
   your
      campaign nor the libertarian position on immigration are
      mischaracterized.
      I already left a voicemail for the reporter, Zac Anderson [he's at
      [3](941) 361-4836, or email [2][4]zac.anderson at heraldtribune.com],
   giving him
      the heads-up that his story apparently got your position wrong and
      asking him to call me back. According to the paper's website, he is
      their political editor as well as a reporter, so I'm guessing he has
      authority to address the issue himself and didn't attempt to contact
      another editor.
                         *          *          *
      Regarding the immigration issue in general, here is some information
   I
      hope you or other Libertarian candidates may find helpful when
      communicating with the press or members of the public on this topic
   in
      the future...
      Except with regard to the importation of slaves after 1808, the
      Constitution does not give Congress any authority to control
      immigration (who enters one of the states), only naturalization (the
      process of becoming a U.S. citizen). This is reflected by the fact
   that
      for the first century or so of U.S. history (until 1875), there were
   no
      federal statutes restricting entry to the United States (see
      [3][5]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_immi
   gration_laws
      ). Even today, being in the country without government permission is
      considered by the authorities to be a civil offense, like getting a
      parking ticket, not a criminal offense (see e.g.
      [4][6]http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/mar/15
   /florida-con
      ference-catholic-bishops/being-united-states-unlawfully-crime/).
      However, as the scope and power of the federal government expanded,
      politicians felt less and less constrained by the Constitution and
      began to increasingly stretch and violate it in various manners.
   Sadly,
      government courts have largely acquiesced to most of these power
   grabs,
      so most people today do not realize that like the federal anti-drug
      laws, the federal regulation of products and services by myriad
      agencies, the federal "ownership" of large tracts of land in many
      states, etc., federal immigration laws are unconstitutional and
      therefore illegal.
      Morally speaking, of course, it doesn't much matter whether a bad
   law
      is "legal" or not. Plenty of horrific abuses committed by government
      authorities throughout history have been perfectly legal according
   to
      the laws enacted by themselves or their colleagues. But since many
      people have been taught to automatically view the law as a good
   thing
      (for an enlightening discussion of this, I highly recommend watching
      the speech Larken Rose gave at an Independence Day rally a few years
      ago, online at [5][7]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNWnBmoFiGQ),
   being
      able to explain how you are not advocating lawbreaking when you
   stand
      up for the rights of undocumented migrants, but in fact upholding
   the
      highest law of the land, can be useful when when you are asked your
      position on "enforcing the law", "illegal" immigration, etc.
      One final point � you didn't say in your reply whether the
   reporter's
      comments that you "argu(ed) that undocumented immigrants present
      potential health and public safety problems" were also inaccurate,
   but
      if you did say anything along those lines, I would strongly urge you
   to
      avoid such comments in the future. Virtually anyone can be
   accurately
      said to represent a potential public health or safety problem (you
   or I
      might potentially get sick, or do something unsafe in public!), but
   the
      law should never criminalize or discriminate against people on such
      vague grounds � no one should be detained without probable cause
   to
      suspect that a particular individual poses a credible threat to
   public
      health or safety. The mere fact of being undocumented does not make
      anyone a threat to public health or safety.
      Good luck out there on the campaign trail, and don't forget that
      electoral victory is only a small part of the battle � your
   ability to
      advance the cause of freedom as an elected official will largely
   depend
      on your ability to articulate and defend the libertarian message to
      your constituents and colleagues whose support you will need in
   order
      to be an effective legislator and get pro-freedom changes enacted
   while
      blocking attempts to expand the size, scope, cost, and power of
      government!
      Love & Liberty,
                                         ((( starchild )))
      At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
                              [6][8]RealReform at earthlink.net
                                       (415) 625-FREE
      P.S. � I'm copying Florida LP member Ryan Ramsey on this email
   since he
      wrote separately to members of the LNC regarding my initial message
      about the Herald-Tribune article; I'll try to respond to him
   separately
      later, but am behind on constituent email lately.
      On Jan 21, 2018, at 2:55 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
      Thank you Alison that is why I wanted to hear directly from you.
      Now go knock them dead.  Figuratively of course.
      -Caryn Ann
      On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 3:27 PM Alison Foxall
      <[7][9]alison at foxallforflorida.com> wrote:
      To whom this may concern:
      "Legislation that would punish local governments that don�t fully
      cooperate with federal immigration authorities drew support from
      Libertarian Alison Foxall and criticism from Democrat Margaret
   Good..."
      I never said I supported legislation to punish local governments.
      Further, "drew support....and criticism" never happened because the
      audience didn't clap for either candidate. The journalist, Zac
      Anderson, definitely got those points wrong. He never directly
   quoted
      me except when I said it was a hot-button issue and I don't know why
      (continue reading to see why I said that).
      I oppose the top-down approach from the state of FL forcing local
      governments to enforce federal immigration laws. The GOP continues
   to
      push this. Something to note: our local law enforcement and the
      majority of our constituents here in Sarasota support legal
   immigration
      and do not want their city or county turned into a haven for
      "undocumented" peoples, so they have chosen to enforce federal laws.
      As a candidate for FL state house representative, in my opinion, it
   is
      wise to have a working relationship with existing local elected
      officials and despite what happens in different areas of the
   country,
      our Sherrif here in Sarasota is well-liked and supports the second
      amendment and an armed citizenry. I support the Sherrif and the City
      Council� and ultimately the rest of the community's decision to
   enforce
      the law. It is, after all, what the constituency wants and why the
      Sherrif has been at his station, continuously elected for the last
   10
      years.
      A question that often comes up, much more so than talking about the
      issues, is "how will you work with the old guard in Tallahassee [the
      Capital]?". Voters are legitimately considering how a Libertarian
      Representative would work within the Republican majority and
   Democratic
      minority. Voters are curious if I will be able to form alliances or
      alienate myself in the House. Something they clearly don't want is
      alienation.
      Even though I support the decisions of my constituents and their own
      local governance, I under no circumstance would vote at the state
   level
      to make counties or cities enforce federal immigration laws. That is
   up
      to local governments. In Florida, we have "home rule" laws and the
      state should not be imposing their will onto local municipalities.
   It
      is written in our state constitution. I would have very little to do
      when it comes to immigration issues which is why it is not present
   on
      my website. I've knocked on thousands of doors and out of all those
      people I have spoken to, none have ever brought up immigration.
   None.
      Sarasota does not face an "illegal" immigration "problem".
      So, why was it asked at a League of Women voters event? Because the
   GOP
      sent scare tactic mailers to almost all voters in the district in
   late
      December to drum up voter turnout in a special election to vote
   against
      the Democrat. They employed the same tactic early last year in a
   city
      council election. The GOP lost. Badly. Since December when that
   first
      mailer went out, immigration questions have only come up twice in
      public appearances. The Democrats in Sarasota on the city council
   have
      no interest in ceasing to enforce federal immigration laws, but the
   GOP
      is blowing the issue out of proportion as if it's something they
   want.
      Personally, I am not enthusiastic about the issue (neither are the
      DEM's here) and it's not something I go around talking about to
   solicit
      votes. My platform is largely economic and energy based, with
      highlights about restoring rights to felons that have finished their
      sentences and ending the drug war to help end the opioid crisis in
   our
      area, as well as jumpstart a hemp industry in our state.
      Sarasota is not like most places. 62% of its income comes from
      dividends, interest, and social security payouts. That will tip you
   off
      to the demographics here: older retirees. And when I say older, I
   mean
      really older, from the Silent Generation. We have more deaths in
      Sarasota than we do births. At least 10% of people here remember
      growing up during the great depression. A third of the population
   grew
      up and lived through WWII. Nearly everyone remembers the start of
   the
      Cold War, the wonders of the new space program, and Kennedy's
      assassination. People talk about some of these events as if they
      happened just a few years ago. The things they care about are what I
      care about. I'm trying to become their representative, after all.
      The libertarian facebook firing squad is a distraction from our goal
   of
      reducing government. We are nowhere near even my stepping stone
   dream
      of very limited government. Immigration laws need massive reform at
   the
      federal level and how we get there is not through me or the seat I'm
      trying to win. I became a Libertarian in 2014 when Adrian Wyllie
   made
      the call to change my party registration. At the time I was
      non-partisan and a self-described anarcho-capitalist (hence the
   strong
      platform about economic freedom). I believed that political parties
      were a big part of the problems our country is facing and resisted
      joining for some time. But after seeing the injustice of debate
      exclusion that Wyllie faced in Florida, and the possibility of the
      Libertarian Party becoming a major party by reaching 5% threshold of
      registered voters, I took a leap of faith and joined "the
   collective"
      of big-L Libertarians in Florida and I haven't looked back since. I
      figured I might as well be a part of the change, instead of not
      participating at all.
      Our campaign has received a ridiculous amount of mainstream media
      attention locally. TV and printed news is the preferred news
      consumption platform for our audience, and we've gotten a lot of it.
      Yesterday, the local news station came out to our canvassing
   assembly
      before we hit the streets. I am meeting with TV, radio, and news
      journalists every day this week. January 30th we will be in the
      televised debates and it is anticipated to be one of the most
   watched
      things on local television this year. I've attached some coverage
   that
      ran in this mornings paper. My photo is front and center. The
   article
      mentions we are a big wild card, campaigning aggressively, and could
      draw significant support. These are the kindest things a news
      journalist have said about a Libertarian campaign I've ever read
   about
      in Florida. This is our chance to win.
      I implore you all to help drum up support to win this seat instead
   of
      hampering it. We have huge momentum here on the ground, and we've
      already broken fundraising records for a FL Libertarian State House
      campaign in a special election, and are about $1,800 away from
   breaking
      the overall amount raised in any FL Libertarian State House
   campaign.
      We are making history and smashing through records from nearly 15
   years
      ago. Libertarians in Florida are on the rise.
      As this email took an absorbent amount of time to write, if you have
      follow-up questions, please give me a call: [10]941-840-0369. My
   time needs
      to be spent very wisely from now until election day on February
   13th.
      This is the home stretch, the culmination of months and thousands of
      hours of work. I'm running to advance our movement, to grow our
   party,
      and most of all to have Libertarian representation in our state. The
      opportunity to win is dangling in front of us, ripe, and ready for
   the
      taking. The question is: do you really want it as much as I do?
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      Thank you,
      Alison Foxall
      Libertarian Candidate for FL House District 72
      Special Election, February 13th, 2018
      Volunteer Today: [8][11]foxallforflorida.com/volunteer
      On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 2:01 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
      <[9][12]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
      I would like to hear Alison's view.
      On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:06 AM, Starchild
   <[10][13]starchild at lp.org>
      wrote:
      > SARASOTA � Legislation that would punish local governments that
   don�t
      fully cooperate with federal immigration authorities drew support
   from
      Libertarian Alison Foxall and criticism from Democrat Margaret Good
      during a candidate forum for the state House District 72 race
   Tuesday.
      > Foxall, a Sarasota marketing company owner, noted that the
   so-called
      sanctuary cities bill � which cleared the Florida House last week
   � has
      become �a very hot button issue.�
      >
      > �I don�t understand why,� Foxall said in arguing that
   undocumented
      immigrants present potential health and public safety problems.
      (From
      [11][14]http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20180116/sarasota-sta
   te-house-can
      didates-debate-immigration-guns-abortion-at-forum)
              I can't find anything on Alison Foxall's website about
      immigration one way or the other, and want to give her the benefit
   of
      the doubt that the paper got it wrong. I've copied the candidate,
   who
      is also a member of the Social Media Process Review Committee, on
   this
      message so she can address what her local paper reported.
              Hopefully we are not too preoccupied with policing
   intemperate
      posts on Facebook to be concerned if a Libertarian candidate is
   taking
      actual anti-libertarian positions at a public campaign event covered
   by
      the media. Allison's campaign is currently being touted in an ad on
   the
      front page of [12]LP.org.
      Love & Liberty,
                                         ((( starchild )))
      At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
                                      [13][15]starchild at lp.org
                                      (415) 625-FREE
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   References
      1.
   [18]http://floridapolitics.com/archives/248759-sanctuary-city-
   ban-bill-makes-comebac
      2. mailto:[19]zac.anderson at heraldtribune.com
      3. [20]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_immigrat
   ion_laws
      4.
   [21]http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/mar/15/
   florida-conference-catholic-bishops/being-united-states-
   unlawfully-crime/
      5. [22]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNWnBmoFiGQ
      6. mailto:[23]RealReform at earthlink.net
      7. mailto:[24]alison at foxallforflorida.com
      8. [25]http://foxallforflorida.com/volunteer
      9. mailto:[26]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
     10. mailto:[27]starchild at lp.org
     11.
   [28]http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20180116/sarasota-state-ho
   use-candidates-debate-immigration-guns-abortion-at-forum
     12. [29]http://LP.org/
     13. mailto:[30]starchild at lp.org
     14. mailto:[31]Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     15. [32]http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business

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References

   1. mailto:steven.nekhaila at lp.org
   2. http://floridapolitics.com/archives/248759-sanctuary-city-ban-bil
   3. tel:(941) 361-4836
   4. mailto:zac.anderson at heraldtribune.com
   5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_immigration_laws
   6. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/mar/15/florida-con
   7. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNWnBmoFiGQ
   8. mailto:RealReform at earthlink.net
   9. mailto:alison at foxallforflorida.com
  10. tel:941-840-0369
  11. http://foxallforflorida.com/volunteer
  12. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
  13. mailto:starchild at lp.org
  14. http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20180116/sarasota-state-house-can
  15. mailto:starchild at lp.org
  16. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  17. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
  18. http://floridapolitics.com/archives/248759-sanctuary-city-ban-bill-makes-comebac
  19. mailto:zac.anderson at heraldtribune.com
  20. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_immigration_laws
  21. http://www.politifact.com/florida/statements/2017/mar/15/florida-conference-catholic-bishops/being-united-states-unlawfully-crime/
  22. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNWnBmoFiGQ
  23. mailto:RealReform at earthlink.net
  24. mailto:alison at foxallforflorida.com
  25. http://foxallforflorida.com/volunteer
  26. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
  27. mailto:starchild at lp.org
  28. http://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20180116/sarasota-state-house-candidates-debate-immigration-guns-abortion-at-forum
  29. http://LP.org/
  30. mailto:starchild at lp.org
  31. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  32. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
  33. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
  34. http://hq.lp.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lnc-business
  35. mailto:Lnc-business at hq.lp.org
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