[Lnc-business] draft minutes of 02/02/18 LNC meeting

[Starchild]

Alicia,

	In the previous cases from last year and the year before there's no dispute that I voted after the voting period had expired (I'm pretty sure I acknowledged as much at the time), but in this case I'm confident I voted in a timely manner, and since my vote will not affect the outcome one way or the other I see little reason to be inflexible about adding a note, at a minimum, if not actually count the vote. Unfortunately I'm not enough of a techie to know how to prove to you that my vote was cast before midnight here, beyond whatever evidence may be contained in the email itself, but I honestly believe that to be the case. 

	The reason I consider it important to include my comment about the motion to adjourn in the minutes is that if it is not included, moving to allow public comment when I'd previously moved to adjourn could look blatantly hypocritical, and I don't think it's fair to leave readers with that impression when I noted my error in the chat window, and verbally, before later moving to allow public comment (which shouldn't even need a motion, imho, as it should always be part of our meetings!).

Love & Liberty,

                                    ((( starchild )))
At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
                         RealReform at earthlink.net
                                  (415) 625-FREE
                                    @StarchildSF


On Feb 5, 2018, at 11:21 PM, Alicia Mattson wrote:

>   Starchild,
>   Several LNC members commented during the meeting, with each believing
>   that their comments were important enough to say out loud.  I didn't
>   record their general debate comments in the minutes, either.
>   Regarding the late vote on the email ballot:
>   On the 2017-14 email ballot when another member voted too late, I did
>   not add a note to the minutes.
>   On the 2017-13 email ballot when another member voted too late, I did
>   not add a note to the minutes.
>   On the 2017-08 email ballot when you voted 3 hours too late, I did not
>   add a note to the minutes.
>   On the 2016-09 email ballot when you voted 3 minutes, 52 seconds too
>   late, I did not add a note to the minutes.
>   I don't see a reason to treat this situation differently than I have
>   consistently handled it throughout this term.
>   We've given a very generous interpretation to the ending time for email
>   ballots, and the only time stamp that I have is the one on the email
>   server.  If, however, you have some other evidence that your vote was
>   actually cast before the deadline (it can happen), simply provide it so
>   the LNC and I can consider counting your vote.
>   -Alicia
> 
>   On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 2:46 PM, Starchild <[1]starchild at lp.org> wrote:
> 
>             Thanks, Alicia. I would like it noted in the minutes that
>     when I moved to allow public comment, I stated that my previous
>     motion to adjourn had been inappropriate, because we had not yet had
>     public comment. Will you make this change?
>             Also I did not see a response from you regarding my request
>     that it be noted in the minutes that I cast a vote against the email
>     censure ballot, but you found the vote came after the clock on the
>     LP server indicated it was several minutes after the voting deadline
>     and therefore it was not counted (although as I noted, it was not
>     late according to the time as recorded by my cell phone).
>     Love & Liberty,
>                                          ((( starchild )))
>     At-Large Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>                               [2]RealReform at earthlink.net
>                                        (415) 625-FREE
> 
>   On Feb 4, 2018, at 1:49 PM, Alicia Mattson wrote:
>>  Attached are the first draft minutes from the February 2, 2018 LNC
>>  electronic meeting.
>>  Please note that comments on the minutes are due by February 19.
>>  -Alicia
> 
>> <2018_02_02 LNC Minutes - v1.pdf>
> 
> References
> 
>   1. mailto:starchild at lp.org
>   2. mailto:RealReform at earthlink.net