[Lnc-business] Caryn Ann Harlos fundraising and membership recruitment

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Fri Feb 23 18:02:49 EST 2018


Like usual - I omitted a “no” - Joshua there is no moving forward at least
with my volunteering on this.  I will decline.

I will do things on my own as I have done.  Less effectively and less often
but more peacefully.

My integrity is my highest possession and to have an insinuation stated by
a peer without even the courtesy of a direct inquiry is my cutoff point.

It is said Libertarians have trouble accomplishing things and eat their own.

QED.

I never thought I would regret my recruiting success.  The LP has surprised
me once again.

-Caryn Ann


On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM Elizabeth Van Horn <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
wrote:

> Well, Caryn Ann, it's you who have used the word sinister, not I.
>
> You wrote:
>
> " My comment was simply and only how I would spend my time.  Which I do
> at every event."
>
> In which case, you can do without being reimbursed, by the national LP.
> Glad we're in agreement.
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
>
> On 2018-02-23 17:10, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> > Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read something sinister
> >    but not everything.
> >    My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions of that.
> >    I have already clearly stated here that recruitment trips are just
> > that
> >    and nothing more.  My comment was simply and only how I would spend
> > my
> >    time.  Which I do at every event.
> >    On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
> >    <[1]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >         I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points, although I'd
> >      emphasize that
> >         my issue is more about disclosure of potential issues to the
> >      board
> >         ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I see here.  I
> >         explained some, I can find more.  The solution to that is, in
> > the
> >         future, disclosure to the board of transactions involving LNC
> >      members,
> >         and the orientation I mentioned earlier.  Anyway, I am writing
> > to
> >         express disagreement with one point:  I almost always disagree
> >      with
> >         clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual malfeasance.  I
> >      would
> >         disagree with requesting the return of funds or stopping funds
> > in
> >         progress.
> >         Joshua A. Katz
> >         On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
> >         <[1][2]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> >           Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying that I was
> >      shocked
> >           to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to attend
> > state
> >           conventions within their own region.
> >           Dear LNC,
> >                Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of dues-paying
> >      members by
> >                attending state conventions and getting people to join
> > or
> >           renew.
> >                At first, she did this at state conventions she was
> >      attending
> >           in her
> >                region at her own expense.
> >           I've no problem with this. LNC representatives often attend
> >      state
> >           conventions within their own region, and if she works to
> > boost
> >           national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
> >                Her results were so strong that I asked her if she would
> >      be
> >           willing
> >                to go to some other states outside of her region to do
> >      similar
> >                fundraising efforts if her travel expenses were
> >      reimbursed.
> >           < This is something that should have been told to the LNC,
> > and
> >      even
> >           discussed.  Why are we only finding this out, after someone
> >           inquired?   Where's the transparency?<<<
> >                We have been struggling to keep membership from falling.
> >      We
> >           send
> >                renewal emails and renewal letters that perform
> > reasonably
> >      well
> >           but
> >                pretty much exhaust that method. Other methods we try
> > have
> >      very
> >           low
> >                ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively strong.
> >                Caryn Ann attended the Washington State convention last
> >      weekend
> >           and
> >                recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for the national
> >      LP.
> >                That trip is one in which we have reimbursed her for her
> >           travel.
> >            I have a problem with this.   Many LNC Regional
> >      Representatives
> >           will attend state conventions within their region.  If any of
> >      them
> >           do membership recruiting for national while there, that's
> >      something
> >           they choose to do.  Are you suggesting that Caryn Ann
> > wouldn't
> >      have
> >           tried to boost membership at a state convention within her
> >      region,
> >           if she wasn't reimbursed?  Because, I doubt that.  This was
> >           something she was doing as she chose to do, while attending
> >           conventions within her own region. This isn't something that
> > an
> >      LNC
> >           member should be reimbursed for. <<<
> >                I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state conventions to
> >      have
> >           her do
> >                this work. No one else has done this as successfully as
> >      Caryn
> >           Ann.
> >                Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her for her
> > time.
> >           Wes, you don't know what others have done regarding
> > recruiting,
> >      as
> >           most people do it as a normal part of being in the LP.  I,
> > nor
> >      most
> >           others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to join the LP,
> >      as I
> >           see it as a given this is done.<<<
> >           Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has let national
> >           membership drop?  Because, they're unhappy with the national
> >      LP.  At
> >           my last state convention, our officers said that they want
> >      people to
> >           keep state memberships current, but national doesn't do
> >      anything for
> >           them, so they don't care much about that.  I had to mention
> >      that our
> >           delegate count is tied to national membership, and since
> > then,
> >      I
> >           followed -up on that, but our numbers still have dropped.
> > I've
> >      been
> >           thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is successful
> > in
> >           reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers are
> >      passionate
> >           about the LP and liberty actions.  Not because anyone  is
> > being
> >           reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.  (My state
> >      isn't the
> >           only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
> >                For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to take the
> > time
> >      to
> >           attend,
> >                I will be sending our staff member Jess Mears. The thing
> >      with
> >           Jess
> >                is that we pay her for her hours to travel, attend, and
> >      return
> >           from
> >                state conventions. She's unlikely to get as high of a
> > ROI.
> >            I personally wouldn't send anyone to state conventions to
> >      boost
> >           national membership, if the national LP is paying for it.
> >      Instead,
> >           we should work to create a better LP that's responsive to
> > it's
> >           members and the public, and we grow through people seeking to
> >      join
> >           us.  Organic growth.<<<
> >                I received a complaint today that it is inappropriate
> > for
> >           someone
> >                running for a position on the LNC to have travel
> >      reimbursed.
> >                I sympathize with the complaint, but do not think it's a
> >           violation
> >                of our policies.
> >           It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn Ann Harlos
> > for
> >           traveling to state conventions within her own region, the LP
> > is
> >           subsidizing her efforts as a regional representative. This is
> >           inappropriate.<<<
> >                Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for your
> >      feedback. If
> >           you
> >                request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos or any other
> >      LNC
> >           member
> >                to state conventions for the purpose of recruiting
> >      dues-paying
> >                members, we can end the program.
> >           Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC members for
> >      travel to
> >           state conventions within their own region.  I also am
> >      requesting
> >           that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement costs of
> > any
> >      state
> >           conventions she attended within her region.
> >           As for "sending her" to other state conventions, this should
> > be
> >           discussed by the LNC.<<<
> >                A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing to go to
> >      state
> >                convention at the expense of the LNC and recruit
> >      members--why
> >           don't
> >                you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann proved her
> >           willingness
> >                and capability within her own region. No other LNC
> > members
> >      have
> >                mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying members from
> >      their
> >                states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together are not able
> > to
> >           attend
> >                every state convention. If you are interested in
> > helping,
> >      and
> >                willing to prove your ability first at a state in your
> >      region
> >           or at
> >                another state at your own expense, let me know and we
> >      might be
> >           able
> >                to try that. And then we can report the results.
> >            Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership due to a FB
> >      post
> >           that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that he's the
> > reason
> >      she
> >           renewed)   I'd wager that Andy is responsible for quite a
> >      number of
> >           people renewing or joining the LP.  As Andy's an excellent
> >      advocate
> >           for the cause that is the LP.  If you want to find someone
> >      who's out
> >           there building up hope in the LP, and getting people on
> > board,
> >      he's
> >           the one.  You probably don't know this stuff, as Andy doesn't
> >      seek
> >           to be recognized for his efforts, he probably sees it as
> > normal
> >      for
> >           people who support the LP.
> >           Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep track of how
> >      many
> >           people they've recruited.  So, your statement asking people
> > to
> >           "prove your ability", is moot.<<<
> >           (truncated)
> >           ---
> >           Elizabeth Van Horn
> >         On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
> >           Dear LNC,
> >                Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of dues-paying
> >      members by
> >                attending state conventions and getting people to join
> > or
> >           renew.
> >                At first, she did this at state conventions she was
> >      attending
> >           in her
> >                region at her own expense.
> >                Her results were so strong that I asked her if she would
> >      be
> >           willing
> >                to go to some other states outside of her region to do
> >      similar
> >                fundraising efforts if her travel expenses were
> >      reimbursed.
> >                We have been struggling to keep membership from falling.
> >      We
> >           send
> >                renewal emails and renewal letters that perform
> > reasonably
> >      well
> >           but
> >                pretty much exhaust that method. Other methods we try
> > have
> >      very
> >           low
> >                ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively strong.
> >                Caryn Ann attended the Washington State convention last
> >      weekend
> >           and
> >                recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for the national
> >      LP.
> >                That trip is one in which we have reimbursed her for her
> >           travel.
> >                I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state conventions to
> >      have
> >           her do
> >                this work. No one else has done this as successfully as
> >      Caryn
> >           Ann.
> >                Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her for her
> > time.
> >                For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to take the
> > time
> >      to
> >           attend,
> >                I will be sending our staff member Jess Mears. The thing
> >      with
> >           Jess
> >                is that we pay her for her hours to travel, attend, and
> >      return
> >           from
> >                state conventions. She's unlikely to get as high of a
> > ROI.
> >                I received a complaint today that it is inappropriate
> > for
> >           someone
> >                running for a position on the LNC to have travel
> >      reimbursed.
> >                I sympathize with the complaint, but do not think it's a
> >           violation
> >                of our policies.
> >                Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for your
> >      feedback. If
> >           you
> >                request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos or any other
> >      LNC
> >           member
> >                to state conventions for the purpose of recruiting
> >      dues-paying
> >                members, we can end the program.
> >                A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing to go to
> >      state
> >                convention at the expense of the LNC and recruit
> >      members--why
> >           don't
> >                you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann proved her
> >           willingness
> >                and capability within her own region. No other LNC
> > members
> >      have
> >                mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying members from
> >      their
> >                states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together are not
> > able
> >      to
> >           attend
> >                every state convention. If you are interested in
> > helping,
> >      and
> >                willing to prove your ability first at a state in your
> >      region
> >           or at
> >                another state at your own expense, let me know and we
> >      might be
> >           able
> >                to try that. And then we can report the results.
> >                Below is a report from Robert Kraus with some of the
> >           fundraising
> >                results from Caryn Ann.
> >                I welcome your feedback.
> >           Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> >           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> >           1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> >           [3](202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [1][4][3]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >           [2][5][4]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> >           Join the Libertarian Party at:
> >      [3][6][5]http://lp.org/membership
> >              -------- Forwarded Message --------
> >              Subject: Harlos Fundraising
> >                 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
> >                 From: Robert S. Kraus [4]<[7][6]robert.kraus at lp.org>
> >                   To: Wes Benedict [5]<[8][7]wes.benedict at lp.org>
> >           I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total of $2,335.00
> >      for 82
> >           members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks have also
> >      contributed
> >           a
> >           net total excluding conv related gifts of $6,261.74 since
> > 2016
> >           convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation of course so
> >      she has
> >           her
> >           fans)
> >           In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the $12,120
> >      raised for
> >           Historic Preservation
> >           Finally she has given $2181 herself since the 2016 convention
> >      (non
> >           convention related - however $1525 was for Hist Preservation)
> >           --
> >           Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
> >           [6]Operations at LP.org
> >           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> >           1444 Duke Street
> >           Alexandria, VA 22314
> >           Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
> >           References
> >              1. mailto:[11][8]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              2. [12][9]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >              3. [13][10]http://lp.org/membership
> >              4. mailto:[14][11]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >              5. mailto:[15][12]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >              6. mailto:[16]Operations at LP.org
> >      References
> >         1. mailto:[13]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >         2.
> >
> > [14]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
> >      ntry=gmail&source=g
> >         3. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> >         4. mailto:[15]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >         5. [16]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >         6. [17]http://lp.org/membership
> >         7. mailto:[18]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >         8. mailto:[19]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >         9.
> >
> > [20]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tota
> >      l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
> >        10. tel:202.333.0008 x 231
> >        11. mailto:[21]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >        12. [22]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >        13. [23]http://lp.org/membership
> >        14. mailto:[24]robert.kraus at lp.org
> >        15. mailto:[25]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >        16. mailto:[26]Operations at LP.org
> >
> > References
> >
> >    1. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
> >    2. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >    3. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> >    4. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >    5. http://lp.org/membership
> >    6. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> >    7. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> >    8. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> >    9. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >   10. http://lp.org/membership
> >   11. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> >   12. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> >   13. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >   14.
> >
> https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&entry=gmail&source=g
> >   15. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> >   16. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >   17. http://lp.org/membership
> >   18. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> >   19. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> >   20.
> >
> https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+total+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
> >   21. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> >   22. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> >   23. http://lp.org/membership
> >   24. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> >   25. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> >   26. mailto:Operations at LP.org
>
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   Like usual - I omitted a “no” - Joshua there is no moving forward at
   least with my volunteering on this.  I will decline.
   I will do things on my own as I have done.  Less effectively and less
   often but more peacefully.
   My integrity is my highest possession and to have an insinuation stated
   by a peer without even the courtesy of a direct inquiry is my cutoff
   point.
   It is said Libertarians have trouble accomplishing things and eat their
   own.
   QED.
   I never thought I would regret my recruiting success.  The LP has
   surprised me once again.
   -Caryn Ann
   On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
   <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:

     Well, Caryn Ann, it's you who have used the word sinister, not I.
     You wrote:
     " My comment was simply and only how I would spend my time.  Which I
     do
     at every event."
     In which case, you can do without being reimbursed, by the national
     LP.
     Glad we're in agreement.
     ---
     Elizabeth Van Horn
     On 2018-02-23 17:10, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
     > Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read something
     sinister
     >    but not everything.
     >    My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions of
     that.
     >    I have already clearly stated here that recruitment trips are
     just
     > that
     >    and nothing more.  My comment was simply and only how I would
     spend
     > my
     >    time.  Which I do at every event.
     >    On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
     >    <[1][2]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
     >
     >         I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points, although I'd
     >      emphasize that
     >         my issue is more about disclosure of potential issues to
     the
     >      board
     >         ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I see
     here.  I
     >         explained some, I can find more.  The solution to that is,
     in
     > the
     >         future, disclosure to the board of transactions involving
     LNC
     >      members,
     >         and the orientation I mentioned earlier.  Anyway, I am
     writing
     > to
     >         express disagreement with one point:  I almost always
     disagree
     >      with
     >         clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual
     malfeasance.  I
     >      would
     >         disagree with requesting the return of funds or stopping
     funds
     > in
     >         progress.
     >         Joshua A. Katz
     >         On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
     >         <[1][2][3]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
     >           Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying that I
     was
     >      shocked
     >           to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to attend
     > state
     >           conventions within their own region.
     >           Dear LNC,
     >                Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of dues-paying
     >      members by
     >                attending state conventions and getting people to
     join
     > or
     >           renew.
     >                At first, she did this at state conventions she was
     >      attending
     >           in her
     >                region at her own expense.
     >           I've no problem with this. LNC representatives often
     attend
     >      state
     >           conventions within their own region, and if she works to
     > boost
     >           national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
     >                Her results were so strong that I asked her if she
     would
     >      be
     >           willing
     >                to go to some other states outside of her region to
     do
     >      similar
     >                fundraising efforts if her travel expenses were
     >      reimbursed.
     >           < This is something that should have been told to the
     LNC,
     > and
     >      even
     >           discussed.  Why are we only finding this out, after
     someone
     >           inquired?   Where's the transparency?<<<
     >                We have been struggling to keep membership from
     falling.
     >      We
     >           send
     >                renewal emails and renewal letters that perform
     > reasonably
     >      well
     >           but
     >                pretty much exhaust that method. Other methods we
     try
     > have
     >      very
     >           low
     >                ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively strong.
     >                Caryn Ann attended the Washington State convention
     last
     >      weekend
     >           and
     >                recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for the
     national
     >      LP.
     >                That trip is one in which we have reimbursed her
     for her
     >           travel.
     >            I have a problem with this.   Many LNC Regional
     >      Representatives
     >           will attend state conventions within their region.  If
     any of
     >      them
     >           do membership recruiting for national while there,
     that's
     >      something
     >           they choose to do.  Are you suggesting that Caryn Ann
     > wouldn't
     >      have
     >           tried to boost membership at a state convention within
     her
     >      region,
     >           if she wasn't reimbursed?  Because, I doubt that.  This
     was
     >           something she was doing as she chose to do, while
     attending
     >           conventions within her own region. This isn't something
     that
     > an
     >      LNC
     >           member should be reimbursed for. <<<
     >                I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
     conventions to
     >      have
     >           her do
     >                this work. No one else has done this as
     successfully as
     >      Caryn
     >           Ann.
     >                Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her for
     her
     > time.
     >           Wes, you don't know what others have done regarding
     > recruiting,
     >      as
     >           most people do it as a normal part of being in the LP.
     I,
     > nor
     >      most
     >           others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to join
     the LP,
     >      as I
     >           see it as a given this is done.<<<
     >           Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has let
     national
     >           membership drop?  Because, they're unhappy with the
     national
     >      LP.  At
     >           my last state convention, our officers said that they
     want
     >      people to
     >           keep state memberships current, but national doesn't do
     >      anything for
     >           them, so they don't care much about that.  I had to
     mention
     >      that our
     >           delegate count is tied to national membership, and since
     > then,
     >      I
     >           followed -up on that, but our numbers still have
     dropped.
     > I've
     >      been
     >           thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is
     successful
     > in
     >           reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers are
     >      passionate
     >           about the LP and liberty actions.  Not because anyone
     is
     > being
     >           reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.  (My
     state
     >      isn't the
     >           only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
     >                For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to take
     the
     > time
     >      to
     >           attend,
     >                I will be sending our staff member Jess Mears. The
     thing
     >      with
     >           Jess
     >                is that we pay her for her hours to travel, attend,
     and
     >      return
     >           from
     >                state conventions. She's unlikely to get as high of
     a
     > ROI.
     >            I personally wouldn't send anyone to state conventions
     to
     >      boost
     >           national membership, if the national LP is paying for
     it.
     >      Instead,
     >           we should work to create a better LP that's responsive
     to
     > it's
     >           members and the public, and we grow through people
     seeking to
     >      join
     >           us.  Organic growth.<<<
     >                I received a complaint today that it is
     inappropriate
     > for
     >           someone
     >                running for a position on the LNC to have travel
     >      reimbursed.
     >                I sympathize with the complaint, but do not think
     it's a
     >           violation
     >                of our policies.
     >           It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn Ann
     Harlos
     > for
     >           traveling to state conventions within her own region,
     the LP
     > is
     >           subsidizing her efforts as a regional representative.
     This is
     >           inappropriate.<<<
     >                Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for your
     >      feedback. If
     >           you
     >                request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos or any
     other
     >      LNC
     >           member
     >                to state conventions for the purpose of recruiting
     >      dues-paying
     >                members, we can end the program.
     >           Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC members
     for
     >      travel to
     >           state conventions within their own region.  I also am
     >      requesting
     >           that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement costs
     of
     > any
     >      state
     >           conventions she attended within her region.
     >           As for "sending her" to other state conventions, this
     should
     > be
     >           discussed by the LNC.<<<
     >                A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing to go
     to
     >      state
     >                convention at the expense of the LNC and recruit
     >      members--why
     >           don't
     >                you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann proved
     her
     >           willingness
     >                and capability within her own region. No other LNC
     > members
     >      have
     >                mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying members
     from
     >      their
     >                states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together are not
     able
     > to
     >           attend
     >                every state convention. If you are interested in
     > helping,
     >      and
     >                willing to prove your ability first at a state in
     your
     >      region
     >           or at
     >                another state at your own expense, let me know and
     we
     >      might be
     >           able
     >                to try that. And then we can report the results.
     >            Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership due to a
     FB
     >      post
     >           that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that he's the
     > reason
     >      she
     >           renewed)   I'd wager that Andy is responsible for quite
     a
     >      number of
     >           people renewing or joining the LP.  As Andy's an
     excellent
     >      advocate
     >           for the cause that is the LP.  If you want to find
     someone
     >      who's out
     >           there building up hope in the LP, and getting people on
     > board,
     >      he's
     >           the one.  You probably don't know this stuff, as Andy
     doesn't
     >      seek
     >           to be recognized for his efforts, he probably sees it as
     > normal
     >      for
     >           people who support the LP.
     >           Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep track of
     how
     >      many
     >           people they've recruited.  So, your statement asking
     people
     > to
     >           "prove your ability", is moot.<<<
     >           (truncated)
     >           ---
     >           Elizabeth Van Horn
     >         On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
     >           Dear LNC,
     >                Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of dues-paying
     >      members by
     >                attending state conventions and getting people to
     join
     > or
     >           renew.
     >                At first, she did this at state conventions she was
     >      attending
     >           in her
     >                region at her own expense.
     >                Her results were so strong that I asked her if she
     would
     >      be
     >           willing
     >                to go to some other states outside of her region to
     do
     >      similar
     >                fundraising efforts if her travel expenses were
     >      reimbursed.
     >                We have been struggling to keep membership from
     falling.
     >      We
     >           send
     >                renewal emails and renewal letters that perform
     > reasonably
     >      well
     >           but
     >                pretty much exhaust that method. Other methods we
     try
     > have
     >      very
     >           low
     >                ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively strong.
     >                Caryn Ann attended the Washington State convention
     last
     >      weekend
     >           and
     >                recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for the
     national
     >      LP.
     >                That trip is one in which we have reimbursed her
     for her
     >           travel.
     >                I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
     conventions to
     >      have
     >           her do
     >                this work. No one else has done this as
     successfully as
     >      Caryn
     >           Ann.
     >                Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her for
     her
     > time.
     >                For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to take
     the
     > time
     >      to
     >           attend,
     >                I will be sending our staff member Jess Mears. The
     thing
     >      with
     >           Jess
     >                is that we pay her for her hours to travel, attend,
     and
     >      return
     >           from
     >                state conventions. She's unlikely to get as high of
     a
     > ROI.
     >                I received a complaint today that it is
     inappropriate
     > for
     >           someone
     >                running for a position on the LNC to have travel
     >      reimbursed.
     >                I sympathize with the complaint, but do not think
     it's a
     >           violation
     >                of our policies.
     >                Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for your
     >      feedback. If
     >           you
     >                request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos or any
     other
     >      LNC
     >           member
     >                to state conventions for the purpose of recruiting
     >      dues-paying
     >                members, we can end the program.
     >                A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing to go
     to
     >      state
     >                convention at the expense of the LNC and recruit
     >      members--why
     >           don't
     >                you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann proved
     her
     >           willingness
     >                and capability within her own region. No other LNC
     > members
     >      have
     >                mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying members
     from
     >      their
     >                states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together are
     not
     > able
     >      to
     >           attend
     >                every state convention. If you are interested in
     > helping,
     >      and
     >                willing to prove your ability first at a state in
     your
     >      region
     >           or at
     >                another state at your own expense, let me know and
     we
     >      might be
     >           able
     >                to try that. And then we can report the results.
     >                Below is a report from Robert Kraus with some of
     the
     >           fundraising
     >                results from Caryn Ann.
     >                I welcome your feedback.
     >           Wes Benedict, Executive Director
     >           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     >           1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
     >           [3](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
     [1][4][3][4]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >           [2][5][4][5]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
     >           Join the Libertarian Party at:
     >      [3][6][5][6]http://lp.org/membership
     >              -------- Forwarded Message --------
     >              Subject: Harlos Fundraising
     >                 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
     >                 From: Robert S. Kraus
     [4]<[7][6][7]robert.kraus at lp.org>
     >                   To: Wes Benedict
     [5]<[8][7][8]wes.benedict at lp.org>
     >           I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total of
     $2,335.00
     >      for 82
     >           members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks have also
     >      contributed
     >           a
     >           net total excluding conv related gifts of $6,261.74
     since
     > 2016
     >           convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation of
     course so
     >      she has
     >           her
     >           fans)
     >           In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the
     $12,120
     >      raised for
     >           Historic Preservation
     >           Finally she has given $2181 herself since the 2016
     convention
     >      (non
     >           convention related - however $1525 was for Hist
     Preservation)
     >           --
     >           Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
     >           [6]Operations at LP.org
     >           Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     >           1444 Duke Street
     >           Alexandria, VA 22314
     >           Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
     >           References
     >              1. mailto:[11][8][9]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              2. [12][9][10]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >              3. [13][10][11]http://lp.org/membership
     >              4. mailto:[14][11][12]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >              5. mailto:[15][12][13]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >              6. mailto:[16]Operations at LP.org
     >      References
     >         1. mailto:[13][14]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >         2.
     >
     >
     [14][15]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are
     +n&e
     >      ntry=gmail&source=g
     >         3. tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
     >         4. mailto:[15][16]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >         5. [16][17]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >         6. [17][18]http://lp.org/membership
     >         7. mailto:[18][19]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >         8. mailto:[19][20]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >         9.
     >
     >
     [20][21]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+
     tota
     >      l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
     >        10. tel:202.333.0008 x 231
     >        11. mailto:[21][22]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >        12. [22][23]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >        13. [23][24]http://lp.org/membership
     >        14. mailto:[24][25]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >        15. mailto:[25][26]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >        16. mailto:[26]Operations at LP.org
     >
     > References
     >
     >    1. mailto:[27]planning4liberty at gmail.com
     >    2. mailto:[28]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >    3. mailto:[29]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >    4. [30]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >    5. [31]http://lp.org/membership
     >    6. mailto:[32]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >    7. mailto:[33]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >    8. mailto:[34]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >    9. [35]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >   10. [36]http://lp.org/membership
     >   11. mailto:[37]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >   12. mailto:[38]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >   13. mailto:[39]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >   14.
     >
     [40]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
     ntry=gmail&source=g
     >   15. mailto:[41]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >   16. [42]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >   17. [43]http://lp.org/membership
     >   18. mailto:[44]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >   19. mailto:[45]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >   20.
     >
     [46]https://maps.google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tota
     l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
     >   21. mailto:[47]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >   22. [48]http://facebook.com/libertarians
     >   23. [49]http://lp.org/membership
     >   24. mailto:[50]robert.kraus at lp.org
     >   25. mailto:[51]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >   26. mailto:[52]Operations at LP.org

References

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   2. mailto:planning4liberty at gmail.com
   3. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
   4. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
   5. http://facebook.com/libertarians
   6. http://lp.org/membership
   7. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
   8. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
   9. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  10. http://facebook.com/libertarians
  11. http://lp.org/membership
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  13. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  14. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  15. https://maps.google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
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  18. http://lp.org/membership
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