[Lnc-business] Caryn Ann Harlos fundraising and membership recruitment

Joshua Katz planning4liberty at gmail.com
Fri Feb 23 23:42:27 EST 2018


Ken said he was working on this.

Joshua A. Katz


On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn <
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:

> Well, as you know, there's plenty we (you and I) *do* agree with, and this
> is one.  It's bonkers alright.
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
>
> On 2018-02-23 23:23, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
>> The email formatting since the switch is sub-optimal.  I have footers
>>    with dozens of links and it is often a jumble to see where there is a
>>    reply.
>>
>>    On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>    <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>    If I don't reply, it means I didn't see.  If I am anything, it is an
>>    obsessive replier.
>>    -Caryn Ann
>>
>>    On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
>>    <[2]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>
>>    Thank you Caryn Ann, that helps.
>>    I had asked a question in one of the emails, which must have gotten
>>    lost too, as you didn't reply.  (Although, that's your prerogative,
>>    even if you did see the question.)
>>    ---
>>    Elizabeth Van Horn
>>    On 2018-02-23 23:09, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>
>>    I see something I missed:
>>       ==Caryn Ann reported that she attended a meeting in WA. So, she
>>    clearly
>>       has the wherewithal to attend state affiliate meetings. ==
>>       Yes I clearly have a computer in which to log-in to an e-meeting
>>    when a
>>       state Chair requests.
>>       -Caryn Ann
>>       On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
>>       <[1][3]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>         ---
>>         Elizabeth Van Horn
>>         On 2018-02-23 22:27, Daniel Hayes wrote:
>>         Caryn Ann,
>>         It was mentioned to you by Wes.  I was in on the conversation
>>         because
>>         you and I are the two most active fundraisers and membership
>>         recruiters on the board.  Was that in NOLA or Kansas City?
>>         ------Daniel, yet the board members that replied here today, and
>>         they were on the LNC during the meetings you mention, didn't know
>>         about it.
>>         Wes wanted to experiment with it.  This stuff all gets disclosed
>>    in
>>         the Treasurer’s report.
>>         ------Experimenting, is fine. Covering the cost for an LNC member
>>    to
>>         go to state conventions within their own region is something that
>>         should have been discussed with this board.
>>         Hopefully, other board members take a more active role in fund
>>         raising
>>         going forward.   This discussion has been much longer than it
>>    needed
>>         to be and much less civil than required.
>>         ------My objections aren't to fundraising, but to covering costs
>>    for
>>         an LNC member to attend state conventions within their own region.
>>         I also object to this type of arrangement being made with a broad
>>         communication to this board. The surprise that people have
>>    expressed
>>         here is an indicator that this wasn't something that was
>>         communicated to the board.
>>         Also, I don't think anyone has been uncivil.
>>         Now that it’s revealed that I was “involved” that should explain
>>    it.
>>         This shall be placed with all my other crimes, including refusing
>>    to
>>         re-Life Harambe and have him speak at the NatCon.
>>         ------Your commentary doesn't explain anything that changes my
>>    mind
>>         about the inappropriateness of this situation.
>>         I get peoples issue with it, but I was there and understand Wes’s
>>         perspective and agreed with it.  I’m more concerned with results.
>>         We
>>         have an all too regular habit of tying our shoe’s laces together.
>>         We
>>         get lost in the minutia.
>>         ------Daniel, you understanding and agreeing with Wes, doesn't do
>>         anything to change the inappropriateness of the situation.
>>         Daniel Hayes
>>         LNC At Large Member
>>         Sent from my iPhone
>>         On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>>         <[2][4]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>           Actually this board does know me.  I have served nearly a full
>>         term
>>           with them.  Your predecessors knew me well.  And this idea for
>>           fundraising was put in motion before you were on the LNC.  In
>>    fact
>>         - I
>>           think it WAS mentioned at last LNC meeting during a break time
>>         about
>>           innovative fundraising.  I could be wrong but I think Wes did
>>         mention
>>           it (he would know that better than I) It could only be executed
>>         once
>>           conventions started.  My nonexistent crystal ball didn’t forsee
>>         that
>>           Regions would be vacated and some would think that I had to
>>    prove
>>           myself to them anew.
>>           I earned my reputation for integrity with my peers.
>>           On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:03 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>           <[1][3][5]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>           Elizabeth that individual claimed it was. A lot of people were
>>         ready to
>>           assume that was true.  I was not because I know you and others
>>    did
>>         not.
>>           There is nothing more to say on the exchange here.  You think it
>>         was
>>           perfectly appropriate and I don’t.  More digital ink will not
>>         change
>>           that.
>>           On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>           <[2][4][6]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>           If you found it odd or now disturbing directly asking rather
>>    than
>>           openly “wondering” or “hoping” is the correct manner.
>>           I followed our policy.  I openly discussed this on FB.  It is in
>>         every
>>           financial report.
>>           It would have been in my report to the LNC in April.
>>           There was no lack of transparency that I saw.  I told the
>>    members
>>         at
>>           each convention that my trip was paid.  Fundraising is under the
>>           direction of the ED and I followed that.
>>           Getting a piece of equipment somewhere to do a job is not some
>>         unusual
>>           thing.  My time was donated.  The expense to move my body (the
>>           equipment) to do a volunteer job to benefit the Party is part of
>>           fundraising.
>>           And you end with another insinuation that it’s my fault.  It
>>         doesn’t
>>           end does it.
>>           So I’ll end it.  I’ve said what I wish to on that “question” of
>>    my
>>         “odd
>>           and disturbing” innocent volunteering offer. I trust that
>>    answers
>>         your
>>           question on that front.
>>           -Caryn Ann
>>           On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:44 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>           <[3][5][7]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>           And if it is spleen venting time well good.  I step forward to
>>         every
>>           challenge I can.  Staff knows they can call me at any time with
>>    an
>>           emergency and I will move heaven and earth to accomplish it.  If
>>         staff
>>           called me today and said hey a big donor is in [wherever]
>>    tomorrow
>>         can
>>           you meet them and do a ask I would be on a plane to do it.
>>           My work ethic and integrity are something I rightfully earned.
>>           There is nothing that was done outside of our rules.  If the LNC
>>           believes a directive or Policy Manual change is needed they
>>    should
>>         do
>>           it.
>>           But I will fight back against any untoward comment about my
>>         propriety.
>>           -Caryn Ann
>>           On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>           <[4][6][8]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>           I expect now every fundraising expense of the Chair to have to
>>    be
>>         voted
>>           on which is the absolutely ridiculous level of micromanagement
>>    we
>>           wallow in.
>>           We have an ED who is tasked with growing funds m.  We said last
>>         meeting
>>           that these brief experiments in new methods are the way to test.
>>         He
>>           followed through on that with one that frankly was a success.
>>           I would have signed up 100 more members (that was my goal) this
>>           season.  We strain out flies, swallow camels, and disrespect the
>>           intentions of our peers instead.
>>           I followed procedure and the Policy Manual.  I don’t have a
>>         crystal
>>           ball to know in advance who would find that insufficient.
>>           -Caryn Ann
>>           On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:30 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
>>           <[5][7][9]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>>           I’m not going to devolve into those arguments.  It was an
>>         inappropriate
>>           insinuation.  Which you just followed with another one.
>>           I followed protocol as I understood it.  This was in the
>>         discretion of
>>           the ED.  The Chair and Treasurer approves.  Staff was openly
>>           coordinating with me. There was absolutely nothing that would
>>    have
>>           anticipated this to me as the day to day managers of the Party
>>           approved.
>>           I think that is pretty obvious considering my angst about
>>    pennies
>>         on
>>           steemit.
>>           A few weeks ago I had a concern with something said that could
>>         involve
>>           you that was disturbing.  I asked you directly and it confirmed
>>    my
>>           judgment of you that you wouldn’t condone.
>>           You suggested I would have my platcomm expenses paid while
>>         povertaruans
>>           suffered.  That is inappropriate but I can’t make you see that
>>    if
>>         you
>>           don’t and I won’t spend further time trying.  A comment of mine
>>         about
>>           donating a weekend if I was going to be there anyway (not odd at
>>         all )
>>           was twisted into something “disturbing”  - couching it with “I
>>         wonder”
>>           doesn’t change that fact.
>>           That was a low comment.  If it were made to you you would be
>>         requesting
>>           me to call it out.  And I frankly would.
>>           On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>           <[6][8][10]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>             I didn't insinuate, I asked a direct question.  As for the
>>         courtesy
>>             of a
>>             direct inquiry, I suggest that all of this could have been
>>         avoided,
>>             with
>>             the courtesy of direct communications with this board.
>>             ---
>>             Elizabeth Van Horn
>>             On 2018-02-23 18:02, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>         Like usual - I omitted a “no” - Joshua there is no moving forward
>>             at
>>           least with my volunteering on this.  I will decline.
>>           I will do things on my own as I have done.  Less effectively
>>             and
>>         less
>>           often but more peacefully.
>>           My integrity is my highest possession and to have an
>>             insinuation
>>         stated
>>           by a peer without even the courtesy of a direct inquiry is my
>>             cutoff
>>           point.
>>           It is said Libertarians have trouble accomplishing things and
>>             eat
>>         their
>>           own.
>>           QED.
>>           I never thought I would regret my recruiting success.  The LP
>>             has
>>           surprised me once again.
>>           -Caryn Ann
>>           On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>           <[1][7][9][11]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>             Well, Caryn Ann, it's you who have used the word sinister,
>>             not I.
>>             You wrote:
>>             " My comment was simply and only how I would spend my time.
>>             Which
>>         I
>>             do
>>             at every event."
>>             In which case, you can do without being reimbursed, by the
>>         national
>>             LP.
>>             Glad we're in agreement.
>>             ---
>>             Elizabeth Van Horn
>>             On 2018-02-23 17:10, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>         Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read
>>             something
>>             sinister
>>           but not everything.
>>           My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions
>>             of
>>             that.
>>           I have already clearly stated here that recruitment
>>             trips are
>>             just
>>         that
>>           and nothing more.  My comment was simply and only how I
>>             would
>>             spend
>>         my
>>           time.  Which I do at every event.
>>           On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
>>           <[1][2][8][10][12]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>>                I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points,
>>             although I'd
>>             emphasize that
>>                my issue is more about disclosure of potential
>>             issues to
>>             the
>>             board
>>                ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I
>>             see
>>             here.  I
>>                explained some, I can find more.  The solution to
>>             that
>>         is,
>>             in
>>         the
>>                future, disclosure to the board of transactions
>>         involving
>>             LNC
>>             members,
>>                and the orientation I mentioned earlier.  Anyway, I
>>             am
>>             writing
>>         to
>>                express disagreement with one point:  I almost
>>             always
>>             disagree
>>             with
>>                clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual
>>             malfeasance.  I
>>             would
>>                disagree with requesting the return of funds or
>>             stopping
>>             funds
>>         in
>>                progress.
>>                Joshua A. Katz
>>                On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
>>                <[1][2][3][9][11][13]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>                  Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying
>>             that
>>         I
>>             was
>>             shocked
>>                  to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to
>>         attend
>>         state
>>                  conventions within their own region.
>>                  Dear LNC,
>>                       Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
>>         dues-paying
>>             members by
>>                       attending state conventions and getting
>>             people to
>>             join
>>         or
>>                  renew.
>>                       At first, she did this at state conventions
>>             she
>>         was
>>             attending
>>                  in her
>>                       region at her own expense.
>>                  I've no problem with this. LNC representatives
>>             often
>>             attend
>>             state
>>                  conventions within their own region, and if she
>>             works
>>         to
>>         boost
>>                  national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
>>                       Her results were so strong that I asked her
>>             if
>>         she
>>             would
>>             be
>>                  willing
>>                       to go to some other states outside of her
>>             region
>>         to
>>             do
>>             similar
>>                       fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
>>             were
>>             reimbursed.
>>                  < This is something that should have been told to
>>             the
>>             LNC,
>>         and
>>             even
>>                  discussed.  Why are we only finding this out,
>>             after
>>             someone
>>                  inquired?   Where's the transparency?<<<
>>                       We have been struggling to keep membership
>>             from
>>             falling.
>>             We
>>                  send
>>                       renewal emails and renewal letters that
>>             perform
>>         reasonably
>>             well
>>                  but
>>                       pretty much exhaust that method. Other
>>             methods we
>>             try
>>         have
>>             very
>>                  low
>>                       ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
>>         strong.
>>                       Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
>>         convention
>>             last
>>             weekend
>>                  and
>>                       recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
>>             the
>>             national
>>             LP.
>>                       That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
>>             her
>>             for her
>>                  travel.
>>                   I have a problem with this.   Many LNC Regional
>>             Representatives
>>                  will attend state conventions within their
>>             region.  If
>>             any of
>>             them
>>                  do membership recruiting for national while
>>             there,
>>             that's
>>             something
>>                  they choose to do.  Are you suggesting that Caryn
>>             Ann
>>         wouldn't
>>             have
>>                  tried to boost membership at a state convention
>>             within
>>             her
>>             region,
>>                  if she wasn't reimbursed?  Because, I doubt that.
>>         This
>>             was
>>                  something she was doing as she chose to do, while
>>             attending
>>                  conventions within her own region. This isn't
>>         something
>>             that
>>         an
>>             LNC
>>                  member should be reimbursed for. <<<
>>                       I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
>>             conventions to
>>             have
>>                  her do
>>                       this work. No one else has done this as
>>             successfully as
>>             Caryn
>>                  Ann.
>>                       Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
>>             for
>>             her
>>         time.
>>                  Wes, you don't know what others have done
>>             regarding
>>         recruiting,
>>             as
>>                  most people do it as a normal part of being in
>>             the LP.
>>             I,
>>         nor
>>             most
>>                  others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to
>>             join
>>             the LP,
>>             as I
>>                  see it as a given this is done.<<<
>>                  Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has
>>             let
>>             national
>>                  membership drop?  Because, they're unhappy with
>>             the
>>             national
>>             LP.  At
>>                  my last state convention, our officers said that
>>             they
>>             want
>>             people to
>>                  keep state memberships current, but national
>>             doesn't
>>         do
>>             anything for
>>                  them, so they don't care much about that.  I had
>>             to
>>             mention
>>             that our
>>                  delegate count is tied to national membership,
>>             and
>>         since
>>         then,
>>             I
>>                  followed -up on that, but our numbers still have
>>             dropped.
>>         I've
>>             been
>>                  thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is
>>             successful
>>         in
>>                  reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers
>>             are
>>             passionate
>>                  about the LP and liberty actions.  Not because
>>             anyone
>>             is
>>         being
>>                  reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.
>>             (My
>>             state
>>             isn't the
>>                  only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
>>                       For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
>>             take
>>             the
>>         time
>>             to
>>                  attend,
>>                       I will be sending our staff member Jess
>>             Mears.
>>         The
>>             thing
>>             with
>>                  Jess
>>                       is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
>>         attend,
>>             and
>>             return
>>                  from
>>                       state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
>>             high
>>         of
>>             a
>>         ROI.
>>                   I personally wouldn't send anyone to state
>>         conventions
>>             to
>>             boost
>>                  national membership, if the national LP is paying
>>             for
>>             it.
>>             Instead,
>>                  we should work to create a better LP that's
>>             responsive
>>             to
>>         it's
>>                  members and the public, and we grow through
>>             people
>>             seeking to
>>             join
>>                  us.  Organic growth.<<<
>>                       I received a complaint today that it is
>>             inappropriate
>>         for
>>                  someone
>>                       running for a position on the LNC to have
>>             travel
>>             reimbursed.
>>                       I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
>>             think
>>             it's a
>>                  violation
>>                       of our policies.
>>                  It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn
>>             Ann
>>             Harlos
>>         for
>>                  traveling to state conventions within her own
>>             region,
>>             the LP
>>         is
>>                  subsidizing her efforts as a regional
>>             representative.
>>             This is
>>                  inappropriate.<<<
>>                       Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
>>             your
>>             feedback. If
>>                  you
>>                       request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
>>             or any
>>             other
>>             LNC
>>                  member
>>                       [14]to state conventions for the purpose of
>>         recruiting
>>             dues-paying
>>                       members, we can end the program.
>>                  Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC
>>             members
>>             for
>>             travel to
>>                  state conventions within their own region.  I
>>             also am
>>             requesting
>>                  that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement
>>         costs
>>             of
>>         any
>>             state
>>                  conventions she attended within her region.
>>                  As for "sending her" to other state conventions,
>>             this
>>             should
>>         be
>>                  discussed by the LNC.<<<
>>                       A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
>>             to
>>         go
>>             to
>>             state
>>                       convention at the expense of the LNC and
>>             recruit
>>             members--why
>>                  don't
>>                       you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
>>             proved
>>             her
>>                  willingness
>>                       and capability within her own region. No
>>             other
>>         LNC
>>         members
>>             have
>>                       mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
>>         members
>>             from
>>             their
>>                       states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together
>>             are not
>>             able
>>         to
>>                  attend
>>                       every state convention. If you are
>>             interested in
>>         helping,
>>             and
>>                       willing to prove your ability first at a
>>             state in
>>             your
>>             region
>>                  or at
>>                       another state at your own expense, let me
>>             know
>>         and
>>             we
>>             might be
>>                  able
>>                       to try that. And then we can report the
>>             results.
>>                   [12]Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership
>>             due to
>>         a
>>             FB
>>             post
>>                  that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that
>>             he's
>>         the
>>         reason
>>             she
>>                  renewed)   I'd wager that Andy is responsible for
>>         quite
>>             a
>>             number of
>>                  people renewing or joining the LP.  As Andy's an
>>             excellent
>>             advocate
>>                  for the cause that is the LP.  If you want to
>>             find
>>             someone
>>             who's out
>>                  there building up hope in the LP, and getting
>>             people
>>         on
>>         board,
>>             he's
>>                  the one.  You probably don't know this stuff, as
>>             Andy
>>             doesn't
>>             seek
>>                  to be recognized for his efforts, he probably
>>             sees it
>>         as
>>         normal
>>             for
>>                  people who support the LP.
>>                  Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep
>>             track
>>         of
>>             how
>>             many
>>                  people they've recruited.  So, your statement
>>             asking
>>             people
>>         to
>>                  "prove your ability", is moot.<<<
>>                  (truncated)
>>                  ---
>>                  Elizabeth Van Horn
>>                On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>                  Dear LNC,
>>                       Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
>>         dues-paying
>>             members by
>>                       attending state conventions and getting
>>             people to
>>             join
>>         or
>>                  renew.
>>                       At first, she did this at state conventions
>>             she
>>         was
>>             attending
>>                  in her
>>                       region at her own expense.
>>                       Her results were so strong that I asked her
>>             if
>>         she
>>             would
>>             be
>>                  willing
>>                       to go to some other states outside of her
>>             region
>>         to
>>             do
>>             similar
>>                       fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
>>             were
>>             reimbursed.
>>                       We have been struggling to keep membership
>>             from
>>             falling.
>>             We
>>                  send
>>                       renewal emails and renewal letters that
>>             perform
>>         reasonably
>>             well
>>                  but
>>                       pretty much exhaust that method. Other
>>             methods we
>>             try
>>         have
>>             very
>>                  low
>>                       ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
>>         strong.
>>                       Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
>>         convention
>>             last
>>             weekend
>>                  and
>>                       recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
>>             the
>>             national
>>             LP.
>>                       That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
>>             her
>>             for her
>>                  travel.
>>                       I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
>>             conventions to
>>             have
>>                  her do
>>                       this work. No one else has done this as
>>             successfully as
>>             Caryn
>>                  Ann.
>>                       Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
>>             for
>>             her
>>         time.
>>                       For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
>>             take
>>             the
>>         time
>>             to
>>                  attend,
>>                       I will be sending our staff member Jess
>>             Mears.
>>         The
>>             thing
>>             with
>>                  Jess
>>                       is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
>>         attend,
>>             and
>>             return
>>                  from
>>                       state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
>>             high
>>         of
>>             a
>>         ROI.
>>                       I received a complaint today that it is
>>             inappropriate
>>         for
>>                  someone
>>                       running for a position on the LNC to have
>>             travel
>>             reimbursed.
>>                       I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
>>             think
>>             it's a
>>                  violation
>>                       of our policies.
>>                       Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
>>             your
>>             feedback. If
>>                  you
>>                       request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
>>             or any
>>             other
>>             LNC
>>                  member
>>                       to state conventions for the purpose of
>>         recruiting
>>             dues-paying
>>                       members, we can end the program.
>>                       A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
>>             to
>>         go
>>             to
>>             state
>>                       convention at the expense of the LNC and
>>             recruit
>>             members--why
>>                  don't
>>                       you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
>>             proved
>>             her
>>                  willingness
>>                       and capability within her own region. No
>>             other
>>         LNC
>>         members
>>             have
>>                       mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
>>         members
>>             from
>>             their
>>                       states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together
>>             are
>>             not
>>         able
>>             to
>>                  attend
>>                       every state convention. If you are
>>             interested in
>>         helping,
>>             and
>>                       willing to prove your ability first at a
>>             state in
>>             your
>>             region
>>                  or at
>>                       another state at your own expense, let me
>>             know
>>         and
>>             we
>>             might be
>>                  able
>>                       to try that. And then we can report the
>>             results.
>>                       Below is a report from Robert Kraus with
>>             some of
>>             the
>>                  fundraising
>>                       results from Caryn Ann.
>>                       I welcome your feedback.
>>                  Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>                  Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>                  1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>>                  [3][13][15](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
>>             [1][4][3][4][10][14][16]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>                  [2][5][4][5][11][15][17]facebook.com/libertarians
>>             @LPNational
>>                  Join the Libertarian Party at:
>>             [3][6][5][6][12][16][18]http://lp.org/membership
>>                     -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>                     Subject: Harlos Fundraising
>>                        Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
>>                        From: Robert S. Kraus
>>             [4]<[7][6][7][13][17][19]robert.kraus at lp.org>
>>                          To: Wes Benedict
>>             [5]<[8][7][8][14][18][20]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>>                  I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total
>>             of
>>             $2,335.00
>>             for 82
>>                  members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks
>>             have
>>         also
>>             contributed
>>                  a
>>                  net total excluding conv related gifts of
>>             $6,261.74
>>             since
>>         2016
>>                  convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation
>>             of
>>             course so
>>             she has
>>                  her
>>                  fans)
>>                  In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the
>>             $12,120
>>             raised for
>>                  Historic Preservation
>>                  Finally she has given $2181 herself since the
>>             2016
>>             convention
>>             (non
>>                  convention related - however $1525 was for Hist
>>             Preservation)
>>                  --
>>                  Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
>>                  [6]Operations at LP.org
>>                  Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>                  1444 Duke Street
>>                  Alexandria, VA 22314
>>                  Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
>>                  References
>>                     1. mailto:[11][8][9][15][19][21]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>                     2.
>>             [12][9][10][16][20][22]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>                     3. [13][10][11][17][21][23]http://lp.org/membership
>>                     4. mailto:[14][11][12][18][22][24]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>                     5. mailto:[15][12][13][19][23][25]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>                     6. mailto:[16]Operations at LP.org
>>             References
>>                1. mailto:[13][14][20][24][26]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>                2.
>>             [14][15][21][25][27]https://maps.
>>    google.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+
>>         together
>>             +are
>>             +n&e
>>             ntry=gmail&source=g
>>                3. tel:[26][28](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
>>                4. mailto:[15][16][22][27][29]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>                5. [16][17][23][28][30]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>                6. [17][18][24][29][31]http://lp.org/membership
>>                7. mailto:[18][19][25][30][32]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>                8. mailto:[19][20][26][31][33]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>                9.
>>             [20][21][27][32][34]https://maps.
>>    google.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+
>>         solicitor+fo
>>             r+a+
>>             tota
>>             l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>>               10. tel:[33]202.333.0008 x 231
>>               11. mailto:[21][22][28][34][35]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>               12. [22][23][29][35][36]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>               13. [23][24][30][36][37]http://lp.org/membership
>>               14. mailto:[24][25][31][37][38]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>               15. mailto:[25][26][32][38][39]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>               16. mailto:[26]Operations at LP.org
>>         References
>>           1. mailto:[27][33][39][40]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>           2. mailto:[28][34][40][41]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>           3. mailto:[29][35][41][42]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>           4. [30][36][42][43]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>           5. [31][37][43][44]http://lp.org/membership
>>           6. mailto:[32][38][44][45]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>           7. mailto:[33][39][45][46]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>           8. mailto:[34][40][46][47]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>           9. [35][41][47][48]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          10. [36][42][48][49]http://lp.org/membership
>>          11. mailto:[37][43][49][50]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          12. mailto:[38][44][50][51]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          13. mailto:[39][45][51][52]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>          14.
>>             [40][46][52][53]https://maps.goog
>>    le.com/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+toge
>>         ther+are
>>             +n&e
>>             ntry=gmail&source=g
>>          15. mailto:[41][47][53][54]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          16. [42][48][54][55]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          17. [43][49][55][56]http://lp.org/membership
>>          18. mailto:[44][50][56][57]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          19. mailto:[45][51][57][58]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          20.
>>             [46][52][58][59]https://maps.goog
>>    le.com/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicito
>>         r+for+a+
>>             tota
>>             l+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>>          21. mailto:[47][53][59][60]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          22. [48][54][60][61]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          23. [49][55][61][62]http://lp.org/membership
>>          24. mailto:[50][56][62][63]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          25. mailto:[51][57][63][64]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          26. mailto:[52]Operations at LP.org
>>         References
>>           1. mailto:[58][64][65]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>           2. mailto:[59][65][66]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>           3. mailto:[60][66][67]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>           4. mailto:[61][67][68]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>           5. [62][68][69]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>           6. [63][69][70]http://lp.org/membership
>>           7. mailto:[64][70][71]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>           8. mailto:[65][71][72]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>           9. mailto:[66][72][73]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          10. [67][73][74]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          11. [68][74][75]http://lp.org/membership
>>          12. mailto:[69][75][76]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          13. mailto:[70][76][77]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          14. mailto:[71][77][78]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>          15.
>>             [72][78][79]https://maps.google.c
>>    om/?q=n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together
>>         +are+n&e
>>          16. mailto:[73][79][80]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          17. [74][80][81]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          18. [75][81][82]http://lp.org/membership
>>          19. mailto:[76][82][83]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          20. mailto:[77][83][84]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          21.
>>             [78][84][85]https://maps.google.c
>>    om/?q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+fo
>>         r+a+tota
>>          22. mailto:[79][85][86]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          23. [80][86][87]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          24. [81][87][88]http://lp.org/membership
>>          25. mailto:[82][88][89]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          26. mailto:[83][89][90]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          27. mailto:[84][90][91]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>          28. mailto:[85][91][92]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>          29. mailto:[86][92][93]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          30. [87][93][94]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          31. [88][94][95]http://lp.org/membership
>>          32. mailto:[89][95][96]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          33. mailto:[90][96][97]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          34. mailto:[91][97][98]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          35. [92][98][99]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          36. [93][99][100]http://lp.org/membership
>>          37. mailto:[94][100][101]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          38. mailto:[95][101][102]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          39. mailto:[96][102][103]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>          40.
>>             [97][103][104]https://maps.google.com/?q
>>         =n+Ann+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
>>             ntry=gmail&source=g
>>          41. mailto:[98][104][105]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          42. [99][105][106]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          43. [100][106][107]http://lp.org/membership
>>          44. mailto:[101][107][108]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          45. mailto:[102][108][109]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          46.
>>             [103][109][110]https://maps.google.com/?
>>         q=Harlos+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tot
>>             al+of+$2,33&entry=gmail&source=g
>>          47. mailto:[104][110][111]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          48. [105][111][112]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          49. [106][112][113]http://lp.org/membership
>>          50. mailto:[107][113][114]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          51. mailto:[108][114][115]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          52. mailto:[109]Operations at LP.org
>>         References
>>           1. mailto:[115][116]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>           2. mailto:[116][117]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>           3. mailto:[117][118]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>           4. mailto:[118][119]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>           5. mailto:[119][120]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
>>           6. mailto:[120][121]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>           7. mailto:[121][122]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>           8. mailto:[122][123]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>           9. mailto:[123][124]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>          10. mailto:[124][125]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          11. [125][126]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          12. [126][127]http://lp.org/membership
>>          13. mailto:[127][128]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          14. mailto:[128][129]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          15. mailto:[129][130]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          16. [130][131]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          17. [131][132]http://lp.org/membership
>>          18. mailto:[132][133]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          19. mailto:[133][134]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          20. mailto:[134][135]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>          21. [135][136]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+A
>>         nn+and+Jess+Mears+together+are
>>          22. mailto:[136][137]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          23. [137][138]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          24. [138][139]http://lp.org/membership
>>          25. mailto:[139][140]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          26. mailto:[140][141]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          27. [141][142]https://maps.google.com/?q=Har
>>         los+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+
>>          28. mailto:[142][143]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          29. [143][144]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          30. [144][145]http://lp.org/membership
>>          31. mailto:[145][146]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          32. mailto:[146][147]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          33. mailto:[147][148]planning4liberty at gmail.com
>>          34. mailto:[148][149]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>          35. mailto:[149][150]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          36. [150][151]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          37. [151][152]http://lp.org/membership
>>          38. mailto:[152][153]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          39. mailto:[153][154]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          40. mailto:[154][155]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          41. [155][156]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          42. [156][157]http://lp.org/membership
>>          43. mailto:[157][158]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          44. mailto:[158][159]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          45. mailto:[159][160]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>          46. [160][161]https://maps.google.com/?q=n+A
>>         nn+and+Jess+Mears+together+are+n&e
>>          47. mailto:[161][162]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          48. [162][163]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          49. [163][164]http://lp.org/membership
>>          50. mailto:[164][165]robert.kraus at lp.org
>>          51. mailto:[165][166]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          52. [166][167]https://maps.google.com/?q=Har
>>         los+pegged+as+solicitor+for+a+tota
>>          53. mailto:[167][168]wes.benedict at lp.org
>>          54. [168][169]http://facebook.com/libertarians
>>          55. [169][170]http://lp.org/membership
>
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   Ken said he was working on this.

   Joshua A. Katz
   On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 10:26 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
   <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:

     Well, as you know, there's plenty we (you and I) *do* agree with,
     and this is one.  It's bonkers alright.
     ---
     Elizabeth Van Horn
     On 2018-02-23 23:23, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:

     The email formatting since the switch is sub-optimal.  I have
     footers
        with dozens of links and it is often a jumble to see where there
     is a
        reply.
        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:22 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
        <[1][2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
        If I don't reply, it means I didn't see.  If I am anything, it is
     an
        obsessive replier.
        -Caryn Ann
        On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 9:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
        <[2][3]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
        Thank you Caryn Ann, that helps.
        I had asked a question in one of the emails, which must have
     gotten
        lost too, as you didn't reply.  (Although, that's your
     prerogative,
        even if you did see the question.)
        ---
        Elizabeth Van Horn
        On 2018-02-23 23:09, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
        I see something I missed:
           ==Caryn Ann reported that she attended a meeting in WA. So,
     she
        clearly
           has the wherewithal to attend state affiliate meetings. ==
           Yes I clearly have a computer in which to log-in to an
     e-meeting
        when a
           state Chair requests.
           -Caryn Ann
           On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 8:58 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
           <[1][3][4]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
             ---
             Elizabeth Van Horn
             On 2018-02-23 22:27, Daniel Hayes wrote:
             Caryn Ann,
             It was mentioned to you by Wes.  I was in on the
     conversation
             because
             you and I are the two most active fundraisers and membership
             recruiters on the board.  Was that in NOLA or Kansas City?
             ------Daniel, yet the board members that replied here today,
     and
             they were on the LNC during the meetings you mention, didn't
     know
             about it.
             Wes wanted to experiment with it.  This stuff all gets
     disclosed
        in
             the Treasurer’s report.
             ------Experimenting, is fine. Covering the cost for an LNC
     member
        to
             go to state conventions within their own region is something
     that
             should have been discussed with this board.
             Hopefully, other board members take a more active role in
     fund
             raising
             going forward.   This discussion has been much longer than
     it
        needed
             to be and much less civil than required.
             ------My objections aren't to fundraising, but to covering
     costs
        for
             an LNC member to attend state conventions within their own
     region.
             I also object to this type of arrangement being made with a
     broad
             communication to this board. The surprise that people have
        expressed
             here is an indicator that this wasn't something that was
             communicated to the board.
             Also, I don't think anyone has been uncivil.
             Now that it’s revealed that I was “involved” that should
     explain
        it.
             This shall be placed with all my other crimes, including
     refusing
        to
             re-Life Harambe and have him speak at the NatCon.
             ------Your commentary doesn't explain anything that changes
     my
        mind
             about the inappropriateness of this situation.
             I get peoples issue with it, but I was there and understand
     Wes’s
             perspective and agreed with it.  I’m more concerned with
     results.
             We
             have an all too regular habit of tying our shoe’s laces
     together.
             We
             get lost in the minutia.
             ------Daniel, you understanding and agreeing with Wes,
     doesn't do
             anything to change the inappropriateness of the situation.
             Daniel Hayes
             LNC At Large Member
             Sent from my iPhone
             On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
             <[2][4][5]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
               Actually this board does know me.  I have served nearly a
     full
             term
               with them.  Your predecessors knew me well.  And this idea
     for
               fundraising was put in motion before you were on the LNC.
     In
        fact
             - I
               think it WAS mentioned at last LNC meeting during a break
     time
             about
               innovative fundraising.  I could be wrong but I think Wes
     did
             mention
               it (he would know that better than I) It could only be
     executed
             once
               conventions started.  My nonexistent crystal ball didn’t
     forsee
             that
               Regions would be vacated and some would think that I had
     to
        prove
               myself to them anew.
               I earned my reputation for integrity with my peers.
               On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 5:03 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
               <[1][3][5][6]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
               Elizabeth that individual claimed it was. A lot of people
     were
             ready to
               assume that was true.  I was not because I know you and
     others
        did
             not.
               There is nothing more to say on the exchange here.  You
     think it
             was
               perfectly appropriate and I don’t.  More digital ink will
     not
             change
               that.
               On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:54 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
               <[2][4][6][7]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
               If you found it odd or now disturbing directly asking
     rather
        than
               openly “wondering” or “hoping” is the correct manner.
               I followed our policy.  I openly discussed this on FB.  It
     is in
             every
               financial report.
               It would have been in my report to the LNC in April.
               There was no lack of transparency that I saw.  I told the
        members
             at
               each convention that my trip was paid.  Fundraising is
     under the
               direction of the ED and I followed that.
               Getting a piece of equipment somewhere to do a job is not
     some
             unusual
               thing.  My time was donated.  The expense to move my body
     (the
               equipment) to do a volunteer job to benefit the Party is
     part of
               fundraising.
               And you end with another insinuation that it’s my fault.
     It
             doesn’t
               end does it.
               So I’ll end it.  I’ve said what I wish to on that
     “question” of
        my
             “odd
               and disturbing” innocent volunteering offer. I trust that
        answers
             your
               question on that front.
               -Caryn Ann
               On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:44 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
               <[3][5][7][8]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
               And if it is spleen venting time well good.  I step
     forward to
             every
               challenge I can.  Staff knows they can call me at any time
     with
        an
               emergency and I will move heaven and earth to accomplish
     it.  If
             staff
               called me today and said hey a big donor is in [wherever]
        tomorrow
             can
               you meet them and do a ask I would be on a plane to do it.
               My work ethic and integrity are something I rightfully
     earned.
               There is nothing that was done outside of our rules.  If
     the LNC
               believes a directive or Policy Manual change is needed
     they
        should
             do
               it.
               But I will fight back against any untoward comment about
     my
             propriety.
               -Caryn Ann
               On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
               <[4][6][8][9]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
               I expect now every fundraising expense of the Chair to
     have to
        be
             voted
               on which is the absolutely ridiculous level of
     micromanagement
        we
               wallow in.
               We have an ED who is tasked with growing funds m.  We said
     last
             meeting
               that these brief experiments in new methods are the way to
     test.
             He
               followed through on that with one that frankly was a
     success.
               I would have signed up 100 more members (that was my goal)
     this
               season.  We strain out flies, swallow camels, and
     disrespect the
               intentions of our peers instead.
               I followed procedure and the Policy Manual.  I don’t have
     a
             crystal
               ball to know in advance who would find that insufficient.
               -Caryn Ann
               On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:30 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
               <[5][7][9][10]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
               I’m not going to devolve into those arguments.  It was an
             inappropriate
               insinuation.  Which you just followed with another one.
               I followed protocol as I understood it.  This was in the
             discretion of
               the ED.  The Chair and Treasurer approves.  Staff was
     openly
               coordinating with me. There was absolutely nothing that
     would
        have
               anticipated this to me as the day to day managers of the
     Party
               approved.
               I think that is pretty obvious considering my angst about
        pennies
             on
               steemit.
               A few weeks ago I had a concern with something said that
     could
             involve
               you that was disturbing.  I asked you directly and it
     confirmed
        my
               judgment of you that you wouldn’t condone.
               You suggested I would have my platcomm expenses paid while
             povertaruans
               suffered.  That is inappropriate but I can’t make you see
     that
        if
             you
               don’t and I won’t spend further time trying.  A comment of
     mine
             about
               donating a weekend if I was going to be there anyway (not
     odd at
             all )
               was twisted into something “disturbing”  - couching it
     with “I
             wonder”
               doesn’t change that fact.
               That was a low comment.  If it were made to you you would
     be
             requesting
               me to call it out.  And I frankly would.
               On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
               <[6][8][10][11]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
                 I didn't insinuate, I asked a direct question.  As for
     the
             courtesy
                 of a
                 direct inquiry, I suggest that all of this could have
     been
             avoided,
                 with
                 the courtesy of direct communications with this board.
                 ---
                 Elizabeth Van Horn
                 On 2018-02-23 18:02, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
             Like usual - I omitted a “no” - Joshua there is no moving
     forward
                 at
               least with my volunteering on this.  I will decline.
               I will do things on my own as I have done.  Less
     effectively
                 and
             less
               often but more peacefully.
               My integrity is my highest possession and to have an
                 insinuation
             stated
               by a peer without even the courtesy of a direct inquiry is
     my
                 cutoff
               point.
               It is said Libertarians have trouble accomplishing things
     and
                 eat
             their
               own.
               QED.
               I never thought I would regret my recruiting success.  The
     LP
                 has
               surprised me once again.
               -Caryn Ann
               On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:49 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
               <[1][7][9][11][12]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
                 Well, Caryn Ann, it's you who have used the word
     sinister,
                 not I.
                 You wrote:
                 " My comment was simply and only how I would spend my
     time.
                 Which
             I
                 do
                 at every event."
                 In which case, you can do without being reimbursed, by
     the
             national
                 LP.
                 Glad we're in agreement.
                 ---
                 Elizabeth Van Horn
                 On 2018-02-23 17:10, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
             Elizabeth I am shocked frankly at an ability to read
                 something
                 sinister
               but not everything.
               My comment to the Platform Committee had ZERO intentions
                 of
                 that.
               I have already clearly stated here that recruitment
                 trips are
                 just
             that
               and nothing more.  My comment was simply and only how I
                 would
                 spend
             my
               time.  Which I do at every event.
               On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 2:54 PM Joshua Katz
               <[1][2][8][10][12][13]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
                    I agree with most of Ms. Van Horn's points,
                 although I'd
                 emphasize that
                    my issue is more about disclosure of potential
                 issues to
                 the
                 board
                    ahead of time and the potential fiduciary issues I
                 see
                 here.  I
                    explained some, I can find more.  The solution to
                 that
             is,
                 in
             the
                    future, disclosure to the board of transactions
             involving
                 LNC
                 members,
                    and the orientation I mentioned earlier.  Anyway, I
                 am
                 writing
             to
                    express disagreement with one point:  I almost
                 always
                 disagree
                 with
                    clawbacks or requested clawbacks absent actual
                 malfeasance.  I
                 would
                    disagree with requesting the return of funds or
                 stopping
                 funds
             in
                    progress.
                    Joshua A. Katz
                    On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 3:21 PM, Elizabeth Van Horn
                    <[1][2][3][9][11][13][14]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
     wrote:
                      Wes, here's my feedback, and I don't mind saying
                 that
             I
                 was
                 shocked
                      to read that an LNC member is being reimbursed to
             attend
             state
                      conventions within their own region.
                      Dear LNC,
                           Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
             dues-paying
                 members by
                           attending state conventions and getting
                 people to
                 join
             or
                      renew.
                           At first, she did this at state conventions
                 she
             was
                 attending
                      in her
                           region at her own expense.
                      I've no problem with this. LNC representatives
                 often
                 attend
                 state
                      conventions within their own region, and if she
                 works
             to
             boost
                      national membership while there, that's cool.<<<
                           Her results were so strong that I asked her
                 if
             she
                 would
                 be
                      willing
                           to go to some other states outside of her
                 region
             to
                 do
                 similar
                           fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
                 were
                 reimbursed.
                      < This is something that should have been told to
                 the
                 LNC,
             and
                 even
                      discussed.  Why are we only finding this out,
                 after
                 someone
                      inquired?   Where's the transparency?<<<
                           We have been struggling to keep membership
                 from
                 falling.
                 We
                      send
                           renewal emails and renewal letters that
                 perform
             reasonably
                 well
                      but
                           pretty much exhaust that method. Other
                 methods we
                 try
             have
                 very
                      low
                           ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
             strong.
                           Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
             convention
                 last
                 weekend
                      and
                           recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
                 the
                 national
                 LP.
                           That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
                 her
                 for her
                      travel.
                       I have a problem with this.   Many LNC Regional
                 Representatives
                      will attend state conventions within their
                 region.  If
                 any of
                 them
                      do membership recruiting for national while
                 there,
                 that's
                 something
                      they choose to do.  Are you suggesting that Caryn
                 Ann
             wouldn't
                 have
                      tried to boost membership at a state convention
                 within
                 her
                 region,
                      if she wasn't reimbursed?  Because, I doubt that.
             This
                 was
                      something she was doing as she chose to do, while
                 attending
                      conventions within her own region. This isn't
             something
                 that
             an
                 LNC
                      member should be reimbursed for. <<<
                           I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
                 conventions to
                 have
                      her do
                           this work. No one else has done this as
                 successfully as
                 Caryn
                      Ann.
                           Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
                 for
                 her
             time.
                      Wes, you don't know what others have done
                 regarding
             recruiting,
                 as
                      most people do it as a normal part of being in
                 the LP.
                 I,
             nor
                 most
                      others, keep a log of the people we've gotten to
                 join
                 the LP,
                 as I
                      see it as a given this is done.<<<
                      Wes, do you know why my own state affiliate has
                 let
                 national
                      membership drop?  Because, they're unhappy with
                 the
                 national
                 LP.  At
                      my last state convention, our officers said that
                 they
                 want
                 people to
                      keep state memberships current, but national
                 doesn't
             do
                 anything for
                      them, so they don't care much about that.  I had
                 to
                 mention
                 that our
                      delegate count is tied to national membership,
                 and
             since
             then,
                 I
                      followed -up on that, but our numbers still have
                 dropped.
             I've
                 been
                      thinking of a way to reverse that, but if LPIN is
                 successful
             in
                      reversing that trend, it's because our volunteers
                 are
                 passionate
                      about the LP and liberty actions.  Not because
                 anyone
                 is
             being
                      reimbursed for the expenses of travel and time.
                 (My
                 state
                 isn't the
                      only one that feels this way, btw)<<<
                           For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
                 take
                 the
             time
                 to
                      attend,
                           I will be sending our staff member Jess
                 Mears.
             The
                 thing
                 with
                      Jess
                           is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
             attend,
                 and
                 return
                      from
                           state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
                 high
             of
                 a
             ROI.
                       I personally wouldn't send anyone to state
             conventions
                 to
                 boost
                      national membership, if the national LP is paying
                 for
                 it.
                 Instead,
                      we should work to create a better LP that's
                 responsive
                 to
             it's
                      members and the public, and we grow through
                 people
                 seeking to
                 join
                      us.  Organic growth.<<<
                           I received a complaint today that it is
                 inappropriate
             for
                      someone
                           running for a position on the LNC to have
                 travel
                 reimbursed.
                           I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
                 think
                 it's a
                      violation
                           of our policies.
                      It's a matter of principal. Byreimbursing Caryn
                 Ann
                 Harlos
             for
                      traveling to state conventions within her own
                 region,
                 the LP
             is
                      subsidizing her efforts as a regional
                 representative.
                 This is
                      inappropriate.<<<
                           Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
                 your
                 feedback. If
                      you
                           request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
                 or any
                 other
                 LNC
                      member
                           [14]to state conventions for the purpose of
             recruiting
                 dues-paying
                           members, we can end the program.
                      Yes, I'm requesting a stop to reimbursing LNC
                 members
                 for
                 travel to
                      state conventions within their own region.  I
                 also am
                 requesting
                      that Caryn Ann repay the LP for the reimbursement
             costs
                 of
             any
                 state
                      conventions she attended within her region.
                      As for "sending her" to other state conventions,
                 this
                 should
             be
                      discussed by the LNC.<<<
                           A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
                 to
             go
                 to
                 state
                           convention at the expense of the LNC and
                 recruit
                 members--why
                      don't
                           you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
                 proved
                 her
                      willingness
                           and capability within her own region. No
                 other
             LNC
             members
                 have
                           mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
             members
                 from
                 their
                           states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together
                 are not
                 able
             to
                      attend
                           every state convention. If you are
                 interested in
             helping,
                 and
                           willing to prove your ability first at a
                 state in
                 your
                 region
                      or at
                           another state at your own expense, let me
                 know
             and
                 we
                 might be
                      able
                           to try that. And then we can report the
                 results.
                       [12]Wes, I know a woman who renewed her membership
                 due to
             a
                 FB
                 post
                      that Andy Craig made. (She publicly wrote that
                 he's
             the
             reason
                 she
                      renewed)   I'd wager that Andy is responsible for
             quite
                 a
                 number of
                      people renewing or joining the LP.  As Andy's an
                 excellent
                 advocate
                      for the cause that is the LP.  If you want to
                 find
                 someone
                 who's out
                      there building up hope in the LP, and getting
                 people
             on
             board,
                 he's
                      the one.  You probably don't know this stuff, as
                 Andy
                 doesn't
                 seek
                      to be recognized for his efforts, he probably
                 sees it
             as
             normal
                 for
                      people who support the LP.
                      Nor, do I know of others within the LP who keep
                 track
             of
                 how
                 many
                      people they've recruited.  So, your statement
                 asking
                 people
             to
                      "prove your ability", is moot.<<<
                      (truncated)
                      ---
                      Elizabeth Van Horn
                    On 2018-02-22 22:56, Wes Benedict wrote:
                      Dear LNC,
                           Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
             dues-paying
                 members by
                           attending state conventions and getting
                 people to
                 join
             or
                      renew.
                           At first, she did this at state conventions
                 she
             was
                 attending
                      in her
                           region at her own expense.
                           Her results were so strong that I asked her
                 if
             she
                 would
                 be
                      willing
                           to go to some other states outside of her
                 region
             to
                 do
                 similar
                           fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
                 were
                 reimbursed.
                           We have been struggling to keep membership
                 from
                 falling.
                 We
                      send
                           renewal emails and renewal letters that
                 perform
             reasonably
                 well
                      but
                           pretty much exhaust that method. Other
                 methods we
                 try
             have
                 very
                      low
                           ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
             strong.
                           Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
             convention
                 last
                 weekend
                      and
                           recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
                 the
                 national
                 LP.
                           That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
                 her
                 for her
                      travel.
                           I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
                 conventions to
                 have
                      her do
                           this work. No one else has done this as
                 successfully as
                 Caryn
                      Ann.
                           Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
                 for
                 her
             time.
                           For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
                 take
                 the
             time
                 to
                      attend,
                           I will be sending our staff member Jess
                 Mears.
             The
                 thing
                 with
                      Jess
                           is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
             attend,
                 and
                 return
                      from
                           state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
                 high
             of
                 a
             ROI.
                           I received a complaint today that it is
                 inappropriate
             for
                      someone
                           running for a position on the LNC to have
                 travel
                 reimbursed.
                           I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
                 think
                 it's a
                      violation
                           of our policies.
                           Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
                 your
                 feedback. If
                      you
                           request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
                 or any
                 other
                 LNC
                      member
                           to state conventions for the purpose of
             recruiting
                 dues-paying
                           members, we can end the program.
                           A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
                 to
             go
                 to
                 state
                           convention at the expense of the LNC and
                 recruit
                 members--why
                      don't
                           you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
                 proved
                 her
                      willingness
                           and capability within her own region. No
                 other
             LNC
             members
                 have
                           mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
             members
                 from
                 their
                           states. Cary[2]n Ann and Jess Mears together
                 are
                 not
             able
                 to
                      attend
                           every state convention. If you are
                 interested in
             helping,
                 and
                           willing to prove your ability first at a
                 state in
                 your
                 region
                      or at
                           another state at your own expense, let me
                 know
             and
                 we
                 might be
                      able
                           to try that. And then we can report the
                 results.
                           Below is a report from Robert Kraus with
                 some of
                 the
                      fundraising
                           results from Caryn Ann.
                           I welcome your feedback.
                      Wes Benedict, Executive Director
                      Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
                      1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
                      [3][13][15][15](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
                 [1][4][3][4][10][14][16][16]wes.benedict at lp.org
                      [2][5][4][5][11][15][17][17]faceb
     ook.com/libertarians
                 @LPNational
                      Join the Libertarian Party at:
                 [3][6][5][6][12][16][18][18]http://lp.org/membership
                         -------- Forwarded Message --------
                         Subject: Harlos Fundraising
                            Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
                            From: Robert S. Kraus
                 [4]<[7][6][7][13][17][19][19]robert.kraus at lp.org>
                              To: Wes Benedict
                 [5]<[8][7][8][14][18][20][20]wes.benedict at lp.org>
                      I have [9]Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total
                 of
                 $2,335.00
                 for 82
                      members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks
                 have
             also
                 contributed
                      a
                      net total excluding conv related gifts of
                 $6,261.74
                 since
             2016
                      convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation
                 of
                 course so
                 she has
                      her
                      fans)
                      In addition she is likely 95% responsible for the
                 $12,120
                 raised for
                      Historic Preservation
                      Finally she has given $2181 herself since the
                 2016
                 convention
                 (non
                      convention related - however $1525 was for Hist
                 Preservation)
                      --
                      Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
                      [6]Operations at LP.org
                      Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
                      1444 Duke Street
                      Alexandria, VA 22314
                      Ph: [10]202.333.0008 x 231
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