[Lnc-business] Caryn Ann Harlos fundraising and membership recruitment
Elizabeth Van Horn
elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Sun Feb 25 15:48:17 EST 2018
I think the "bigger precedent this has set", is more transparency, prior
to such decisions being made.
Personally, if I'd been asked by LPHQ to do something similar,
(regardless of the reason), such as going to state conventions within my
own region and be reimbursed, I'd have immediately said that the
decision would need to be vetted by the board.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
http://www.lpcaucus.org/
On 2018-02-25 15:33, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> Thank you Erin. I think your points are entirely reasonable.
> Others are complaining however that this merely a profile raising
> ploy
> (that’s pretty insulting) so it would not have mattered to them
> because
> I allegedly had said for a year something I didn’t and so on and so
> forth.
> But the fact is I did report it. I thank you for acknowledging that
> perhaps you should have asked more about it.
> Hopefully some others who have really tried to tar me will concede
> they
> had that opportunity as well.
> The bigger precedent this has set is that people will be more
> reluctant
> to more than required because things get nastily personal.
> For those who haven’t- thank you. And let’s fix any faulty
> policies.
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 1:17 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
> <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Not reading reports is the fault of those not reading them. Wes
> apparently did. And inb4 “but your reports are so long!” - that was
> in
> the summary - in the part that is easy and short and everyone can
> read.
>
> The fact is however that regional reports are given short shrift
> historically on the LNC. In the past it was often an item stricken
> from the agenda entirely.
>
> LNC Members are expected to read reports. It is our job. Not
> reading
> the nitty gritty of each state is understandable that is why I do
> the
> summary.
>
> This is a classic: “you should have said something!!!”
>
> This is something.
>
> “You should have said something else!”
>
> For a time you were not on this body. Perhaps along with the
> plentiful
> outrage you seem to have on one point you can now decide that
> perhaps
> reports should be read.
>
> -Caryn
>
> The policies in place were followed. And those who had the authority
> to
> approve did. And I did report.
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:53 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
> <[2]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
> There have been absolutely incorrect items mixed in. So I stand in
> my
> comment.
> It was reported.
> I doubt that will make the gossip rounds.
> No matter that is life in the LP fortunately.
> I’m sure a new outrage will be easily found.
> I completely appreciate the legitimate concerns. Very much so. And
> completely legitimate concerns can and have been salted with
> political
> smear.
>
> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 12:40 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
> <[3]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>
> Apparently, very few LNC members read your report.
> This also doesn't address the issue of this being discussed by the
> LNC,
> before a decision was made. Your report is after a decision was
> made,
> and without this board weighing-in.
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> [4]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> On 2018-02-25 14:17, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> > Thank you Wes. Actually last night I did wake up and realize
> THIS
> WAS
> > IN MY REPORT. I put EVERYTHING in my reports.
> >
> > Any LNC member could have read that. It was sent to party
> members.
> > It
> > was posted online multiple places.
> >
> > I reported it.
> >
> > I hope that at least settles part of the political smear job
> that
> > has
> > ensued.
> >
> > And I am going to relisten to that entire NOLA meeting
> (though
> there
> > was equipment malfunction for part of the time) as I am
> pretty
> > positive
> > it was discussed informally there. Wes or Lauren may recall.
> >
> > All of our policies were followed. I DID DISCLOSE THIS TO
> THE
> LNC.
> >
> > -Caryn Ann
> >
> > On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 7:24 AM Wes Benedict
> > <[1][5]wes.benedict at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Substantial updates below.
> > Robert Kraus, based on the general direction provided by
> the
> > chair (a
> > copy pasted below), please issue the reimbursement to
> Caryn Ann
> > Harlos
> > ($439.73 I believe), but wait until Tuesday morning to
> do
> it to
> > give
> > the LNC the opportunity to get a motion started to deny
> the
> > reimbursement in case they want to do that (something I
> think
> > is
> > unlikely, but of course possible). If a motion
> addressing
> these
> > issues
> > has co-sponsors, even though we won't know for 10 days
> whether
> > or
> > not
> > it would pass, if a motion were in process, I'd find it
> prudent
> > to hold
> > off on the reimbursement until such a motion has time to
> > complete.
> > Although it's among lots of other information, I think
> it's
> > worth
> > pointing out that Ms. Harlos included that she would be
> sent to
> > some
> > state convention in 2018 in her region report at the
> December
> > 2017 LNC
> > meeting in New Orleans. Excerpt below:
> > Membership Growth - "I have been obtaining the lists
> of
> > Regional
> > lapsed members for Region 1 and making calls to
> encourage
> > renewal
> > earlier this year. I also have been promoting National
> > memberships
> > at the state conventions and have personally signed up
> about
> > 150 new
> > members between in-person and on-line renewals. I am
> being
> > sent
> > to
> > several conventions in 2018 by the national party to
> recruit.
> > I
> > constantly coach and encourage my region regarding
> national
> > memberships."
> >
> >
> >
>
> [1][2][6]http://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017-12-09_LNC
> _Me
> > eting_
> > Region_1_Report.pdf
> > I do not recall if this program was discussed during
> some
> > portion
> > of
> > the LNC meeting (like budget or elsewhere). Daniel Hayes
> > mentioned he
> > recalls hearing about the program but that could have
> been
> > outside of
> > the meeting. I don't think I personally brought it up
> during
> > the
> > staff
> > portion of the meeting. In case anyone is inclined to do
> review
> > the LNC
> > meeting, the LNC meeting can be watched again here:
> >
> [2][3][7]https://www.lp.org/event/lnc-meeting-new-orleans-la/
> > Going forward . . .
> > Caryn Ann Harlos, please resume our plans for you to
> attend
> > state
> > conventions, to recruit members, and to have your travel
> > reimbursed by
> > the LNC (again, like above, unless the LNC initiates a
> motion
> > aimed at
> > ending the practice in which case it would be wise to
> wait
> for
> > that
> > motion to complete). Going forward, I think we should
> restrict
> > reimbursements for visits outside of your region. Thank
> you for
> > your
> > service. Sorry about the kerfuffle.
> > If any other LNC members are interested in visiting a
> state
> > convention
> > to recruit members and to have the expenses covered by
> the
> > party,
> > please identify the state convention you'd like to try
> and
> I'll
> > let you
> > know if that one is covered yet and if I think it's a
> good
> > opportunity.
> > If interested, for transparency purposes, I think it's
> best to
> > make
> > your offer publicly on this LNC discuss list. Also,
> please
> > provide
> > projections on the expenses and revenue you expect. I'll
> not
> > personally
> > approve a trip that is very likely to have too poor of
> an
> ROI
> > (e.g. a
> > trip to an expensive place to reach with a likely low
> > attendance--no
> > offense intended, but Hawaii comes to mind--I'll not
> approve
> > Hawaii
> > unless someone makes a really good case for it). I will
> intend
> > to
> > report your results and based on your results from your
> first
> > state
> > we'll see if a second state is warranted.
> > LNC members, this project is not critical. It will
> likely
> cost
> > less
> > than 1% of our budget, and will likely bring in less
> than
> 1% to
> > 3% of
> > our members. If it's too much of a distraction, I will
> not
> be
> > offended
> > if you vote to end the program and it likely won't have
> a
> major
> > impact
> > (unless more LNC members participate and are more
> successful
> > than
> > I
> > anticipate).
> > I do like trying new things to get our membership up,
> and
> like
> > using
> > volunteers when they are available if the staff required
> to
> > support the
> > volunteers isn't overly burdensome. I also like having
> LNC
> > members use
> > their talents when available.
> > As usual, our operations director Robert Kraus is always
> happy
> > to
> > provide lists of people to LNC members to call for
> membership
> > renewals
> > and donations to the national party from the comfort of
> your
> > home. If
> > interested in making fundraising calls, let me or Robert
> know.
> > (The chair's comments are below as referenced above.)
> > Thanks,
> > --Wes Benedict
> > -------- Forwarded Message --------
> > Subject: [Lnc-business] Expense Reimbursement for
> Fundraising
> > Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:06:19 -0700
> > From: Nicholas Sarwark [3]<[4][8]chair at lp.org>
> > Reply-To: [4][5][9]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > To: [5][6][10]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> > Dear All,
> > Expense reimbursements to LNC members have been made (and
> will be
> > made
> > in the future) according to the rules set out in our policy
> > manual.
> > The Chair and/or the Treasurer (depending on the situation)
> > approve
> > the expenses and no officer approves his or her own
> expenses.
> > When expense reimbursements for party business are made to
> a
> > member
> > of
> > the LNC, they are reported on the related party
> transactions
> > portion
> > of the Treasurer's report.
> > As our fundraising infrastructure has improved, there are
> more
> > opportunities for fundraising events than there is
> availability
> > from
> > only staff and the Chair. If LNC members are able to handle
> events
> > at
> > the direction of the Executive Director or Head of
> Development,
> > they
> > have been (and will continue to be) reimbursed for their
> expenses
> > associated with those events.
> > Membership recruitment is one part of an effective
> fundraising
> > strategy. When a person makes an initial financial
> commitment to
> > the
> > party, they are much more likely to make future financial
> > commitments
> > over their lifetime (and sometimes at the end of it).
> > Absent a change in the policy manual or specific guidance
> in
> the
> > form
> > of a vote of the national committee, it is my intention to
> proceed
> > as
> > we have been doing in consultation with the Treasurer,
> Executive
> > Director, and the Head of Development.
> > Yours in liberty,
> > Nick
> > Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> > Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> > 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> > (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [6][7][11]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > [8][12]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> > Join the Libertarian Party at:
> [7][9][13]http://lp.org/membership
> > Wes Benedict wrote on 2/23/2018 2:09 PM:
> > Thanks for the response.
> > Joshua, we have sent Chair Sarwark and Vice Chair
> Vohra
> to
> > fundraising events and have reimbursed their travel
> expenses.
> > Our Head of Development is setting up additional
> fundraising
> > events
> > with the intention of the chair to attend.
> > What do you think about that? Would you recommend we
> cease
> > reimbursing the travel expenses for sending the chair
> for
> > fundraising events?
> > Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> > Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> > 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> > (202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
> [8][10][14]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > [11][15]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> > Join the Libertarian Party at:
> > [9][12][16]http://lp.org/membership
> > On 2/23/2018 1:56 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
> > As I said, what's done is done. You should send
> the
> > funds.
> > That's
> > just my opinion, of course, since I can't act for
> this
> > organization,
> > but it's my opinion.
> > Joshua A. Katz
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Wes Benedict
> > [10]<[1][13][17]wes.benedict at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> > Here's where we stand expense-wise on this if I
> have my
> > facts
> > correct--and I have gotten facts wrong on this
> so
> I
> > want
> > to be
> > transparent and corrected if I'm wrong.
> > So far, we have reimbursed Caryn Ann Harlos
> $198.96 for
> > SW
> > Airlines
> > under "Membership Fundraising Costs" and I think
> that
> > was
> > for
> > the
> > Arizona state convention.
> > Additionally, Caryn Ann submitted expenses for
> > reimbursement
> > for
> > $439.73 to be paid for fundraising at the WA
> state
> > convention.
> > I submitted those expenses to the treasurer with
> a
> > request for
> > approval, received the approval, but we haven't
> sent
> > those
> > funds to
> > Caryn Ann yet. Approval attached, if attachments
> are
> > working
> > today.
> > Now I'm unsure what I should do about the
> $439.73.
> > I'm pretty sure I should go ahead and have the
> funds
> > issued,
> > because, this was all done in compliance with
> the
> > policy
> > manual and
> > with the knowledge of the chair and treasurer.
> > Is there any opposition to me issuing the funds
> to
> > Caryn
> > Ann
> > for the
> > $439.73?
> > Today coincidentally we received the memberships
> in the
> > mail
> > from
> > WA: a total of 16 memberships for $690 total
> plus
> a
> > $25
> > a
> > month
> > donor.
> > Josh, what do you think? Do you think I should
> issue
> > the
> > payment of
> > $439.73 to Caryn Ann?
> > Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> > Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> > 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> > [2](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
> > [[11]3][14][18]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > [4][15][19]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> > Join the Libertarian Party at:
> > [5][12][16][20]http://lp.org/membership
> > On 2/23/2018 12:35 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
> > I agree with the ED on scenario 1. I lean
> towards
> > agreeing
> > about
> > Scenario 2.
> > There should also be LNC training, at the
> start of
> > each
> > term
> > (or, at
> > least, this is my suggestion to future LNCs)
> about
> > recognizing
> > issues
> > relating to duties of directors.
> > [21]Joshua A. Katz
> > On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Wes
> Benedict
> > [13]<[1][6][17][22]wes.benedict at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> > Scenario 1.
> > If the LNC wants to encourage the chair to
> > approve
> > reimbursing
> > Caryn
> > Ann Harlos for expenses for travel outside
> of her
> > region
> > for
> > the
> > purpose of recruiting dues-paying members,
> then
> > the
> > LNC
> > can
> > pass a
> > motion to that effect.
> > ==========
> > Unless that happens, I lean towards taking
> > Joshua's
> > advice of
> > discontinuing the practice, given that no
> one has
> > spoken
> > up in
> > support, and that Caryn Ann has rescinded
> her
> > willingness.
> > I think Caryn Ann probably recruited more
> > dues-paying
> > members
> > to the
> > national LP in the past 12 months than all
> other
> > LNC
> > members
> > combined.
> > Aaron Starr started a program called "Give
> or
> > Get".
> > It
> > was
> > quite
> > successful, was in 2006 to 2008 and you
> can
> read
> > about
> > in the
> > LNC
> > minutes here:
> >
> > [2][7][14][18][23]https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
> > I believe flights and hotel expenses were
> covered
> > for
> > a
> > few LNC
> > members for the "Give or Get" program. I
> point
> > that
> > out
> > because
> > there's a precedent for paying travel
> expenses
> for
> > LNC
> > members to
> > do
> > fundraising.
> > The LNC has routinely reimbursed the current
> and
> > former
> > Chairs
> > for
> > travel expenses related to party business
> including
> > fundraisers,
> > but
> > excluding LNC meetings, and in accordance
> with
> the
> > Policy
> > Manual.
> > ==========
> > Scenario 2.
> > While typing this note a donor has offered
> to
> help
> > cover
> > Caryn
> > Ann's
> > expenses for this purpose. If the donor is
> willing
> > to
> > cover 100%
> > of
> > those expenses, and if the donor reimburses
> Caryn
> > Ann
> > directly,
> > and
> > then the donor reports the reimbursements to
> me as
> > an
> > in-kind
> > contribution (probably with the assistance
> of
> Caryn
> > Ann),
> > that
> > would
> > take control of the process out of my hands
> and out
> > of the
> > LNC's
> > hands.
> > ==========
> > I recommend the LNC vote regarding Scenario
> 1,
> so
> > you
> > can
> > make it
> > more clear whether or not you approve having
> LNC
> > members
> > have
> > expenses reimbursed for raising funds, but
> that's
> > up
> > to
> > you all.
> > As
> > we ramp up our fundraising efforts, it will
> help me
> > to
> > know if I
> > should make staff the primary relationship
> builders
> > with
> > our
> > donors,
> > or if I should keep the opportunity open for
> board
> > members
> > as
> > well.
> > I also encourage feedback from individual
> LNC
> > members
> > regarding
> > Scenario 2 even though technically I don't
> think
> > approval
> > is
> > required. I'd like that feedback because I'm
> > willing
> > to
> > cooperate
> > with Caryn Ann and the donor if there's not
> a
> lot
> > of
> > opposition
> > by
> > the LNC. If there's a lot of opposition by
> the
> LNC,
> > I'll
> > be less
> > cooperative with Caryn Ann as she recruits
> members
> > and
> > raises
> > funds
> > for the party.
> > Thanks,
> > Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> > Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> > [3]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> > [4][8](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
> > [5][[15]9][19][24]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > [6][10][20][25]facebook.com/libertarians
> @LPNational
> > Join the Libertarian Party at:
> > [7][11][16][21][26]http://lp.org/membership
> > On 2/23/2018 12:01 AM, Joshua Katz wrote:
> > Wes,
> > Thank you for opening a discussion on
> this.
> I do
> > not
> > believe
> > it is
> > proper to use party funds to send LNC
> members to
> > state
> > conventions
> > unless they are "lame ducks" (and,
> honestly,
> > probably
> > not then
> > either). The facts provided are
> enlightening and
> > important,
> > but
> > the
> > question here is about the principle, not
> the
> > people or
> > the
> > individual
> > circumstances. The principle is that, as
> you
> > note
> > in
> > your
> > email,
> > this
> > is a discretionary decision by staff.
> Staff
> is
> > determining,
> > based,
> > to
> > be sure, on perfectly legitimate factors,
> which
> > LNC
> > members are
> > being
> > sent and where. There is nothing
> compelling
> > staff
> > in
> > the
> > future to
> > use
> > the factors you identify here, and
> different,
> > less
> > legitimate
> > factors,
> > could be used in the future. The way to
> prevent
> > that is
> > "all
> > or
> > nothing." But "all" is impractical, and
> also not
> > a
> > good
> > idea.
> > Other corporations handle this in a more
> direct
> > fashion
> > - they
> > pay
> > directors. We don't do that (and I'm not
> > suggesting
> > it). In
> > fact,
> > we
> > encourage directors to donate, and I
> highly
> > appreciate
> > that Ms.
> > Harlos
> > does so. I don't see how it changes this
> > arrangement,
> > though.
> > We
> > have
> > rules against being an employee and a
> director
> > simultaneously -
> > to
> > the
> > extent an LNC member benefits (in addition
> to the
> > party
> > benefits)
> > from
> > such travel paid for by the party, the
> > arrangement
> > is
> > somewhat
> > akin
> > to
> > employing that director to provide a
> service: in
> > this
> > case,
> > membership
> > recruitment. Maybe Ms. Harlos gets no
> benefit at
> > all
> > from such
> > travel,
> > but will that be true for future LNC
> members?
> > The
> > potentials
> > for
> > self-dealing are numerous. Directors play
> a
> role
> > in
> > selecting
> > and
> > hiring staff - could directors hire and
> retain
> > staff who
> > will
> > provide
> > travel for those specific directors, and
> in
> turn,
> > then
> > enjoy an
> > advantage in future LNC elections?
> > I have every confidence that Ms. Harlos
> does
> not
> > campaign while
> > at
> > these conventions. If an LNC member
> attends
> a
> > convention and
> > is
> > highly
> > visible (you can't recruit national
> members
> if
> > you
> > sit
> > in the
> > back
> > of
> > the room quietly), benefits are still
> gained,
> > albeit
> > incidentally
> > and
> > without that being the motive, in future
> > elections.
> > It's not a
> > policy
> > manual violation because they're no
> campaigning,
> > but the
> > conflicts
> > remain potentially large. By definition,
> it
> is a
> > benefit not
> > available
> > to other candidates - the reason it
> doesn't
> > violate
> > the
> > policy
> > manual
> > is that it's not done in the role of
> candidate.
> > Be that as it may, we could still decide
> that the
> > benefits
> > outweigh
> > the
> > dangers. That would be a reasonable
> decision.
> > However,
> > I am
> > of
> > the
> > opinion that before it began, it should
> have
> been
> > disclosed to
> > the
> > board and a vote taken of the
> disinterested
> > directors.
> > It
> > could be
> > pointed out that, potentially at least,
> there
> > would
> > be
> > no
> > disinterested
> > directors in such a decision (at least in
> spirit)
> > -
> > that
> > would
> > be a
> > reason not to do it.
> > Your answer to why you aren't sending
> other
> LNC
> > members
> > to
> > state
> > conventions is perfectly appropriate and
> > rational.
> > You
> > should
> > not
> > send
> > people to state conventions at party
> expense
> who
> > will
> > not
> > produce a
> > positive return on investment (I, for
> instance,
> > probably
> > wouldn't). Of
> > course, other LNC members could,
> conceivably,
> > produce
> > value in
> > other
> > ways. I have provided parliamentary
> services for
> > several state
> > parties, sometimes with funding from the
> state
> > party,
> > sometimes
> > at
> > my
> > own expense. That's not something that
> produces
> > funds
> > for the
> > party,
> > of course, but it does provide affiliate
> support,
> > something we
> > also
> > do. I most certainly should not do that
> on
> party
> > funds. What,
> > precisely, is the difference? Well,
> membership
> > brings
> > in money
> > and, as
> > you note, numbers have been falling. Does
> that
> > make it
> > a
> > priority
> > over
> > providing other services, or the many
> other
> > things
> > we
> > could
> > send
> > LNC
> > members to do? Well, maybe. The LNC did
> not
> > adopt
> > any
> > goals
> > this
> > term. Last term, the LNC adopted goals,
> and
> > retaining/increasing
> > membership wasn't one of them. I believe
> you
> > told
> > us
> > that you
> > weren't
> > focusing on membership numbers, as a
> result. As
> > has
> > come up in
> > prior
> > discussions, I agree with not prioritizing
> > membership
> > numbers -
> > I
> > think
> > that, over the long term (granted, not the
> > immediate
> > term) we
> > need
> > to
> > focus on relying less on membership for
> revenue
> > and
> > developing
> > other
> > streams. To your credit, staff (and
> especially
> > Lauren)
> > has
> > been
> > developing other revenue streams, and
> doing
> so
> > very
> > effectively.
> > Membership does have the advantage of
> predictable
> > cash
> > flow,
> > admittedly. But I simply am not that
> worried
> > about
> > falling
> > membership
> > numbers persay - if anything, I think of
> > membership
> > numbers as
> > the
> > tail, not the dog. That is, I think we
> can
> > improve
> > membership
> > by
> > doing
> > things like electing candidates to public
> office
> > and
> > having
> > them
> > implement libertarian policies. More
> > importantly,
> > this
> > board
> > doesn't
> > seem to regard it as a priority. But that
> is a
> > somewhat
> > different
> > question.
> > Or, to use another example, members of the
> LNC
> > travel to
> > states
> > where
> > signatures are needed and gather hundreds
> of
> > volunteer
> > signatures.
> > Granted, they don't desire to be paid for
> their
> > expenses
> > in
> > those
> > cases, but if they did, I don't think
> staff
> would
> > agree
> > to pay
> > -
> > and I
> > think that would be the right call, most
> of
> the
> > time at
> > least.
> > That
> > also doesn't put money in our pocket,
> although it
> > has
> > the
> > ultimate
> > effect (if history is any guide) of
> keeping
> money
> > there
> > that
> > would
> > otherwise leave.
> > So, in summary, my position is that we
> should not
> > fund
> > LNC
> > member
> > travel, even if the LNC member agrees not
> to
> run
> > for
> > reelection.
> > But I
> > recognize that opinions can differ on
> that,
> so my
> > additional
> > opinion is
> > that the board is within its rights to
> decide
> > otherwise,
> > but
> > that
> > potentially conflicted transactions
> involving
> > board
> > members
> > should
> > be
> > discussed with the board ahead of time,
> and
> > approved by
> > a
> > majority
> > of
> > disinterested directors. What's done is
> done. I
> > think
> > that
> > before
> > it
> > continues, action should be taken to
> approve
> it
> > (or
> > not)
> > by a
> > majority
> > of disinterested directors. There's no
> rule
> that
> > can
> > compel
> > that
> > outcome, it's just my opinion.
> > Joshua A. Katz
> > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Wes
> Benedict
> >
> [17]<[1][8][12][22][27]wes.benedict at lp.org>
> > wrote:
> > Dear LNC,
> > Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a
> lot
> of
> > dues-paying
> > members
> > by
> > attending state conventions and
> getting
> > people to
> > join
> > or
> > renew.
> > At first, she did this at state
> > conventions
> > she
> > was
> > attending
> > in her
> > region at her own expense.
> > Her results were so strong that I
> asked
> > her
> > if
> > she would
> > be
> > willing
> > to go to some other states outside
> of
> her
> > region
> > to do
> > similar
> > fundraising efforts if her travel
> expenses
> > were
> > reimbursed.
> > We have been struggling to keep
> membership
> > from
> > falling.
> > We
> > send
> > renewal emails and renewal letters
> that
> > perform
> > reasonably
> > well
> > but
> > pretty much exhaust that method.
> Other
> > methods we
> > try
> > have
> > very
> > low
> > ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been
> > comparatively
> > strong.
> > Caryn Ann attended the Washington
> State
> > convention last
> > weekend
> > and
> > recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying
> members for
> > the
> > national
> > LP.
> > That trip is one in which we have
> > reimbursed
> > her
> > for her
> > travel.
> > I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more
> state
> > conventions to
> > have
> > her do
> > this work. No one else has done
> this
> as
> > successfully as
> > Caryn
> > Ann.
> > Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we
> don't
> pay
> > her
> > for
> > her
> > time.
> > For conventions that Caryn Ann is
> unable
> > to
> > take
> > the
> > time to
> > attend,
> > I will be sending our staff member
> Jess
> > Mears.
> > The thing
> > with
> > Jess
> > is that we pay her for her hours to
> > travel,
> > attend, and
> > return
> > from
> > state conventions. She's unlikely
> to
> get
> > as
> > high
> > of a
> > ROI.
> > I received a complaint today that
> it
> is
> > inappropriate
> > for
> > someone
> > running for a position on the LNC
> to
> have
> > travel
> > reimbursed.
> > I sympathize with the complaint,
> but
> do
> > not
> > think
> > it's a
> > violation
> > of our policies.
> > Nevertheless, I bring this up to
> the
> LNC
> > for
> > your
> > feedback.
> > If
> > you
> > request a stop to sending Caryn Ann
> Harlos
> > or any
> > other
> > LNC
> > member
> > to state conventions for the
> purpose
> of
> > recruiting
> > dues-paying
> > members, we can end the program.
> > A reasonable question might be,
> "I'm
> > willing
> > to
> > go to
> > state
> > convention at the expense of the
> LNC
> and
> > recruit
> > members--why
> > don't
> > you send me?" The answer is that
> Caryn Ann
> > proved
> > her
> > willingness
> > and capability within her own
> region.
> No
> > other
> > LNC
> > members
> > have
> > mailed us several envelopes of
> dues-paying
> > members from
> > their
> > states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears
> together
> > are not
> > able
> > to
> > attend
> > every state convention. If you are
> > interested in
> > helping,
> > and
> > willing to prove your ability first
> at a
> > state in
> > your
> > region
> > or at
> > another state at your own expense,
> let me
> > know
> > and we
> > might
> > be
> > able
> > [9]to try that. And then we can
> report
> > the
> > results.
> > Below is a report from Robert
> Kraus
> with
> > some
> > of the
> > fundraising
> > results from Caryn Ann.
> > I welcome your feedback.
> > Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> > Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> > 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> > [2][10][13](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
> > [1][3][11][[18]14][23][28]wes.benedict at lp.org
> >
> [2][4][12][15][24][29]facebook.com/libertarians
> > @LPNational
> > Join the Libertarian Party at:
> >
> [3][5][13][16][19][25][30]http://lp.org/membership
> > -------- Forwarded Message
> --------
> > Subject: Harlos Fundraising
> > Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018
> 11:27:47
> -0500
> > From: Robert S. Kraus
> > [4][20]<[6][14][17][26][31]robert.kraus at lp.org>
> > To: Wes Benedict
> > [5]<[7][15][[21]18][27][32]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > >
> > I have Harlos pegged as solicitor for
> a
> total
> > of
> > $2,335.00
> > for
> > 82
> > members 49 of which where new (these
> 82
> folks
> > have
> > also
> > contributed
> > a
> > net total excluding conv related gifts
> of
> > $6,261.74
> > since
> > 2016
> > convention - bunch of them to Hist
> > Preservation
> > of
> > course
> > so
> > she has
> > her
> > fans)
> > In addition she is likely 95%
> responsible for
> > the
> > $12,120
> > raised for
> > Historic Preservation
> > Finally she has given $2181 herself
> since the
> > 2016
> > convention
> > (non
> > convention related - however $1525 was
> for
> > Hist
> > Preservation)
> > --
> > Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
> > [[22]6]Operations at LP.org
> > Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> > 1444 Duke Street
> > Alexandria, VA 22314
> > Ph: [8]202.333.0008 x 231
> > References
> > 1.
> > mailto:[9][16][[23]19][28][33]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 2.
> >
> [10][17][20][24][29][34]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 3.
> > [11][18][21][25][30][35]http://lp.org/membership
> > 4.
> > mailto:[12][19][[26]22][31][36]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 5.
> > mailto:[13][20][[27]23][32][37]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 6.
> mailto:[[28]14]Operations at LP.org
> > References
> > 1.
> mailto:[21][[29]24][33][38]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 2. tel:[22][25](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> > 3.
> mailto:[23][[30]26][34][39]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 4.
> > [24][27][31][35][40]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 5.
> [25][28][32][36][41]http://lp.org/membership
> > 6.
> mailto:[26][[33]29][37][42]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 7.
> mailto:[27][[34]30][38][43]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 8. tel:[28]202.333.0008 x 231
> > 9.
> mailto:[29][[35]31][39][44]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 10.
> > [30][32][36][40][45]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 11.
> [31][33][37][41][46]http://lp.org/membership
> > 12.
> mailto:[32][[38]34][42][47]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 13.
> mailto:[33][[39]35][43][48]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 14. mailto:[[40]34]Operations at LP.org
> > References
> > 1.
> mailto:[[41]36][44][49]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 2.
> > [37][42][45][50]https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
> > 3.
> [38][43][46][51]https://maps.google.com/?q=144
> >
> 4+Duke+St.,+Alexandria,+VA+22314&entry=gmail&source=g
> > 4. tel:[39](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> > 5.
> mailto:[[44]40][47][52]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 6.
> [41][45][48][53]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 7. [42][46][49][54]http://lp.org/membership
> > 8.
> mailto:[[47]43][50][55]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 9.
> [44][48][51][56]https://maps.google.com/?q=to+
> >
> > try+that.+And+then+we+can+report+the&entry=gmail&source=g
> > 10. tel:[45](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> > 11.
> mailto:[[49]46][52][57]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 12.
> [47][50][53][58]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 13. [48][51][54][59]http://lp.org/membership
> > 14.
> mailto:[[52]49][55][60]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 15.
> mailto:[[53]50][56][61]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 16.
> mailto:[[54]51][57][62]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 17.
> [52][55][58][63]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 18. [53][56][59][64]http://lp.org/membership
> > 19.
> mailto:[[57]54][60][65]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 20.
> mailto:[[58]55][61][66]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 21.
> mailto:[[59]56][62][67]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 22. tel:[57](202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> > 23.
> mailto:[[60]58][63][68]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 24.
> [59][61][64][69]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 25. [60][62][65][70]http://lp.org/membership
> > 26.
> mailto:[[63]61][66][71]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 27.
> mailto:[[64]62][67][72]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 28. tel:[63]202.333.0008 x 231
> > 29.
> mailto:[[65]64][68][73]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 30.
> [65][66][69][74]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 31. [66][67][70][75]http://lp.org/membership
> > 32.
> mailto:[[68]67][71][76]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 33.
> mailto:[[69]68][72][77]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 34. mailto:[[70]69]Operations at LP.org
> > References
> > 1. [71]mailto:[73][78]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 2. [72]tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> > 3. [73]mailto:[74][79]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 4. [74][75][80]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 5. [75][76][81]http://lp.org/membership
> > 6. [76]mailto:[77][82]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 7.
> [77][78][83]https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
> > 8. [78]tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> > 9. [79]mailto:[79][84]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 10. [80][80][85]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 11. [81][81][86]http://lp.org/membership
> > 12. [82]mailto:[82][87]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 13. [8[88]3]tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> > 14. [84]mailto:[83][89]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 15. [85][84][90]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 16. [86][85][91]http://lp.org/membership
> > 17. [87]mailto:[86][92]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 18. [88]mailto:[87][93]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 19. [89]mailto:[88][94]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 20. [90][89][95]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 21. [91][90][96]http://lp.org/membership
> > 22. [92]mailto:[91][97]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 23. [93]mailto:[92][98]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 24. [94]mailto:[93][99]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 25. [95]tel:(202) 333-0008 ext. 232
> > 26. [96]mailto:[94][100]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 27. [97][95][101]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 28. [98][96][102]http://lp.org/membership
> > 29. [99]mailto:[97][103]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 30. [100]mailto:[98][104]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 31. [101]mailto:[99][105]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 32. [102][100][106]http://facebook.com/libertarians
> > 33. [103][101][107]http://lp.org/membership
> > 34. [104]mailto:[102][108]robert.kraus at lp.org
> > 35. [105]mailto:[103][109]wes.benedict at lp.org
> > 36. [106]mailto:[104]
>
> References
>
> Visible links
> 1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 2. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
> 3. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> 4. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> 5. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 6. http://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017-12-09_LNC_Me
> 7. https://www.lp.org/event/lnc-meeting-new-orleans-la/
> 8. mailto:chair at lp.org
> 9. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 10. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
> 11. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 12. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 13. http://lp.org/membership
> 14. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 15. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 16. http://lp.org/membership
> 17. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 18. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 19. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 20. http://lp.org/membership
> 21. https://maps.google.com/?q=Joshua+A.+Katz&entry=gmail&source=g
> 22. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 23. https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
> 24. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 25. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 26. http://lp.org/membership
> 27. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 28. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 29. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 30. http://lp.org/membership
> 31. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 32. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 33. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 34. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 35. http://lp.org/membership
> 36. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 37. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 38. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 39. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 40. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 41. http://lp.org/membership
> 42. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 43. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 44. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 45. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 46. http://lp.org/membership
> 47. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 48. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 49. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 50. https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
> 51. https://maps.google.com/?q=144
> 52. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 53. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 54. http://lp.org/membership
> 55. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 56. https://maps.google.com/?q=to+
> 57. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 58. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 59. http://lp.org/membership
> 60. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 61. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 62. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 63. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 64. http://lp.org/membership
> 65. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 66. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 67. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 68. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 69. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 70. http://lp.org/membership
> 71. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 72. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 73. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 74. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 75. http://lp.org/membership
> 76. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 77. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 78. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 79. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 80. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 81. http://lp.org/membership
> 82. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 83. https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
> 84. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 85. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 86. http://lp.org/membership
> 87. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 88. https://maps.google.com/?q=3]tel:(202)&entry=gmail&source=g
> 89. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 90. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 91. http://lp.org/membership
> 92. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 93. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 94. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 95. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 96. http://lp.org/membership
> 97. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 98. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 99. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 100. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 101. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 102. http://lp.org/membership
> 103. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 104. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 105. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
> 106. http://facebook.com/libertarians
> 107. http://lp.org/membership
> 108. mailto:robert.kraus at lp.org
> 109. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
>
> Hidden links:
> 111. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
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