[Lnc-business] Caryn Ann Harlos fundraising and membership recruitment
Whitney Bilyeu
whitneycb76 at gmail.com
Sun Feb 25 16:15:30 EST 2018
I do not wish to tie the party's hands...simply because the best person for
the job happens to be an LNC member.
On Feb 25, 2018 1:40 PM, "Elizabeth Van Horn" <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org>
wrote:
> Apparently, very few LNC members read your report.
>
> This also doesn't address the issue of this being discussed by the LNC,
> before a decision was made. Your report is after a decision was made, and
> without this board weighing-in.
>
> ---
> Elizabeth Van Horn
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>
> On 2018-02-25 14:17, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>
>> Thank you Wes. Actually last night I did wake up and realize THIS WAS
>> IN MY REPORT. I put EVERYTHING in my reports.
>>
>> Any LNC member could have read that. It was sent to party members. It
>> was posted online multiple places.
>>
>> I reported it.
>>
>> I hope that at least settles part of the political smear job that has
>> ensued.
>>
>> And I am going to relisten to that entire NOLA meeting (though there
>> was equipment malfunction for part of the time) as I am pretty positive
>> it was discussed informally there. Wes or Lauren may recall.
>>
>> All of our policies were followed. I DID DISCLOSE THIS TO THE LNC.
>>
>> -Caryn Ann
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 7:24 AM Wes Benedict <[1]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Substantial updates below.
>> Robert Kraus, based on the general direction provided by the
>> chair (a
>> copy pasted below), please issue the reimbursement to Caryn Ann
>> Harlos
>> ($439.73 I believe), but wait until Tuesday morning to do it to
>> give
>> the LNC the opportunity to get a motion started to deny the
>> reimbursement in case they want to do that (something I think is
>> unlikely, but of course possible). If a motion addressing these
>> issues
>> has co-sponsors, even though we won't know for 10 days whether or
>> not
>> it would pass, if a motion were in process, I'd find it prudent
>> to hold
>> off on the reimbursement until such a motion has time to
>> complete.
>> Although it's among lots of other information, I think it's worth
>> pointing out that Ms. Harlos included that she would be sent to
>> some
>> state convention in 2018 in her region report at the December
>> 2017 LNC
>> meeting in New Orleans. Excerpt below:
>> Membership Growth - "I have been obtaining the lists of
>> Regional
>> lapsed members for Region 1 and making calls to encourage
>> renewal
>> earlier this year. I also have been promoting National
>> memberships
>> at the state conventions and have personally signed up about
>> 150 new
>> members between in-person and on-line renewals. I am being sent
>> to
>> several conventions in 2018 by the national party to recruit. I
>> constantly coach and encourage my region regarding national
>> memberships."
>>
>> [1][2]http://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017-12-09_LNC_Me
>> eting_
>> Region_1_Report.pdf
>> I do not recall if this program was discussed during some portion
>> of
>> the LNC meeting (like budget or elsewhere). Daniel Hayes
>> mentioned he
>> recalls hearing about the program but that could have been
>> outside of
>> the meeting. I don't think I personally brought it up during the
>> staff
>> portion of the meeting. In case anyone is inclined to do review
>> the LNC
>> meeting, the LNC meeting can be watched again here:
>> [2][3]https://www.lp.org/event/lnc-meeting-new-orleans-la/
>> Going forward . . .
>> Caryn Ann Harlos, please resume our plans for you to attend state
>> conventions, to recruit members, and to have your travel
>> reimbursed by
>> the LNC (again, like above, unless the LNC initiates a motion
>> aimed at
>> ending the practice in which case it would be wise to wait for
>> that
>> motion to complete). Going forward, I think we should restrict
>> reimbursements for visits outside of your region. Thank you for
>> your
>> service. Sorry about the kerfuffle.
>> If any other LNC members are interested in visiting a state
>> convention
>> to recruit members and to have the expenses covered by the party,
>> please identify the state convention you'd like to try and I'll
>> let you
>> know if that one is covered yet and if I think it's a good
>> opportunity.
>> If interested, for transparency purposes, I think it's best to
>> make
>> your offer publicly on this LNC discuss list. Also, please
>> provide
>> projections on the expenses and revenue you expect. I'll not
>> personally
>> approve a trip that is very likely to have too poor of an ROI
>> (e.g. a
>> trip to an expensive place to reach with a likely low
>> attendance--no
>> offense intended, but Hawaii comes to mind--I'll not approve
>> Hawaii
>> unless someone makes a really good case for it). I will intend to
>> report your results and based on your results from your first
>> state
>> we'll see if a second state is warranted.
>> LNC members, this project is not critical. It will likely cost
>> less
>> than 1% of our budget, and will likely bring in less than 1% to
>> 3% of
>> our members. If it's too much of a distraction, I will not be
>> offended
>> if you vote to end the program and it likely won't have a major
>> impact
>> (unless more LNC members participate and are more successful than
>> I
>> anticipate).
>> I do like trying new things to get our membership up, and like
>> using
>> volunteers when they are available if the staff required to
>> support the
>> volunteers isn't overly burdensome. I also like having LNC
>> members use
>> their talents when available.
>> As usual, our operations director Robert Kraus is always happy to
>> provide lists of people to LNC members to call for membership
>> renewals
>> and donations to the national party from the comfort of your
>> home. If
>> interested in making fundraising calls, let me or Robert know.
>> (The chair's comments are below as referenced above.)
>> Thanks,
>> --Wes Benedict
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: [Lnc-business] Expense Reimbursement for Fundraising
>> Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:06:19 -0700
>> From: Nicholas Sarwark [3]<[4]chair at lp.org>
>> Reply-To: [4][5]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> To: [5][6]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> Dear All,
>> Expense reimbursements to LNC members have been made (and will be
>> made
>> in the future) according to the rules set out in our policy manual.
>> The Chair and/or the Treasurer (depending on the situation) approve
>> the expenses and no officer approves his or her own expenses.
>> When expense reimbursements for party business are made to a member
>> of
>> the LNC, they are reported on the related party transactions portion
>> of the Treasurer's report.
>> As our fundraising infrastructure has improved, there are more
>> opportunities for fundraising events than there is availability from
>> only staff and the Chair. If LNC members are able to handle events
>> at
>> the direction of the Executive Director or Head of Development, they
>> have been (and will continue to be) reimbursed for their expenses
>> associated with those events.
>> Membership recruitment is one part of an effective fundraising
>> strategy. When a person makes an initial financial commitment to
>> the
>> party, they are much more likely to make future financial
>> commitments
>> over their lifetime (and sometimes at the end of it).
>> Absent a change in the policy manual or specific guidance in the
>> form
>> of a vote of the national committee, it is my intention to proceed
>> as
>> we have been doing in consultation with the Treasurer, Executive
>> Director, and the Head of Development.
>> Yours in liberty,
>> Nick
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [6][7]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> [8]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at: [7][9]http://lp.org/membership
>> Wes Benedict wrote on 2/23/2018 2:09 PM:
>> Thanks for the response.
>> Joshua, we have sent Chair Sarwark and Vice Chair Vohra to
>> fundraising events and have reimbursed their travel expenses.
>> Our Head of Development is setting up additional fundraising
>> events
>> with the intention of the chair to attend.
>> What do you think about that? Would you recommend we cease
>> reimbursing the travel expenses for sending the chair for
>> fundraising events?
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [8][10]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> [11]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at: [9][12]http://lp.org/membership
>> On 2/23/2018 1:56 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
>> As I said, what's done is done. You should send the funds.
>> That's
>> just my opinion, of course, since I can't act for this
>> organization,
>> but it's my opinion.
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Wes Benedict
>> [10]<[1][13]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> Here's where we stand expense-wise on this if I have my
>> facts
>> correct--and I have gotten facts wrong on this so I want
>> to be
>> transparent and corrected if I'm wrong.
>> So far, we have reimbursed Caryn Ann Harlos $198.96 for
>> SW
>> Airlines
>> under "Membership Fundraising Costs" and I think that was
>> for
>> the
>> Arizona state convention.
>> Additionally, Caryn Ann submitted expenses for
>> reimbursement
>> for
>> $439.73 to be paid for fundraising at the WA state
>> convention.
>> I submitted those expenses to the treasurer with a
>> request for
>> approval, received the approval, but we haven't sent
>> those
>> funds to
>> Caryn Ann yet. Approval attached, if attachments are
>> working
>> today.
>> Now I'm unsure what I should do about the $439.73.
>> I'm pretty sure I should go ahead and have the funds
>> issued,
>> because, this was all done in compliance with the policy
>> manual and
>> with the knowledge of the chair and treasurer.
>> Is there any opposition to me issuing the funds to Caryn
>> Ann
>> for the
>> $439.73?
>> Today coincidentally we received the memberships in the
>> mail
>> from
>> WA: a total of 16 memberships for $690 total plus a $25
>> a
>> month
>> donor.
>> Josh, what do you think? Do you think I should issue the
>> payment of
>> $439.73 to Caryn Ann?
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>> [2](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
>> [[11]3][14]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> [4][15]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at:
>> [5][12][16]http://lp.org/membership
>> On 2/23/2018 12:35 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
>> I agree with the ED on scenario 1. I lean towards
>> agreeing
>> about
>> Scenario 2.
>> There should also be LNC training, at the start of
>> each
>> term
>> (or, at
>> least, this is my suggestion to future LNCs) about
>> recognizing
>> issues
>> relating to duties of directors.
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=Joshua+A.+Katz&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Wes Benedict
>> [13]<[1][6][17]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> Scenario 1.
>> If the LNC wants to encourage the chair to approve
>> reimbursing
>> Caryn
>> Ann Harlos for expenses for travel outside of her
>> region
>> for
>> the
>> purpose of recruiting dues-paying members, then the
>> LNC
>> can
>> pass a
>> motion to that effect.
>> ==========
>> Unless that happens, I lean towards taking Joshua's
>> advice of
>> discontinuing the practice, given that no one has
>> spoken
>> up in
>> support, and that Caryn Ann has rescinded her
>> willingness.
>> I think Caryn Ann probably recruited more
>> dues-paying
>> members
>> to the
>> national LP in the past 12 months than all other
>> LNC
>> members
>> combined.
>> Aaron Starr started a program called "Give or Get".
>> It
>> was
>> quite
>> successful, was in 2006 to 2008 and you can read
>> about
>> in the
>> LNC
>> minutes here:
>>
>> [2][7][14][18]https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
>> I believe flights and hotel expenses were covered for
>> a
>> few LNC
>> members for the "Give or Get" program. I point that
>> out
>> because
>> there's a precedent for paying travel expenses for
>> LNC
>> members to
>> do
>> fundraising.
>> The LNC has routinely reimbursed the current and
>> former
>> Chairs
>> for
>> travel expenses related to party business including
>> fundraisers,
>> but
>> excluding LNC meetings, and in accordance with the
>> Policy
>> Manual.
>> ==========
>> Scenario 2.
>> While typing this note a donor has offered to help
>> cover
>> Caryn
>> Ann's
>> expenses for this purpose. If the donor is willing to
>> cover 100%
>> of
>> those expenses, and if the donor reimburses Caryn Ann
>> directly,
>> and
>> then the donor reports the reimbursements to me as an
>> in-kind
>> contribution (probably with the assistance of Caryn
>> Ann),
>> that
>> would
>> take control of the process out of my hands and out
>> of the
>> LNC's
>> hands.
>> ==========
>> I recommend the LNC vote regarding Scenario 1, so you
>> can
>> make it
>> more clear whether or not you approve having LNC
>> members
>> have
>> expenses reimbursed for raising funds, but that's up
>> to
>> you all.
>> As
>> we ramp up our fundraising efforts, it will help me
>> to
>> know if I
>> should make staff the primary relationship builders
>> with
>> our
>> donors,
>> or if I should keep the opportunity open for board
>> members
>> as
>> well.
>> I also encourage feedback from individual LNC members
>> regarding
>> Scenario 2 even though technically I don't think
>> approval
>> is
>> required. I'd like that feedback because I'm willing
>> to
>> cooperate
>> with Caryn Ann and the donor if there's not a lot of
>> opposition
>> by
>> the LNC. If there's a lot of opposition by the LNC,
>> I'll
>> be less
>> cooperative with Caryn Ann as she recruits members
>> and
>> raises
>> funds
>> for the party.
>> Thanks,
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> [3]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>> [4][8](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
>> [5][[15]9][19]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> [6][10][20]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at:
>> [7][11][16][21]http://lp.org/membership
>> On 2/23/2018 12:01 AM, Joshua Katz wrote:
>> Wes,
>> Thank you for opening a discussion on this. I do
>> not
>> believe
>> it is
>> proper to use party funds to send LNC members to
>> state
>> conventions
>> unless they are "lame ducks" (and, honestly,
>> probably
>> not then
>> either). The facts provided are enlightening and
>> important,
>> but
>> the
>> question here is about the principle, not the
>> people or
>> the
>> individual
>> circumstances. The principle is that, as you note
>> in
>> your
>> email,
>> this
>> is a discretionary decision by staff. Staff is
>> determining,
>> based,
>> to
>> be sure, on perfectly legitimate factors, which LNC
>> members are
>> being
>> sent and where. There is nothing compelling staff
>> in
>> the
>> future to
>> use
>> the factors you identify here, and different, less
>> legitimate
>> factors,
>> could be used in the future. The way to prevent
>> that is
>> "all
>> or
>> nothing." But "all" is impractical, and also not a
>> good
>> idea.
>> Other corporations handle this in a more direct
>> fashion
>> - they
>> pay
>> directors. We don't do that (and I'm not
>> suggesting
>> it). In
>> fact,
>> we
>> encourage directors to donate, and I highly
>> appreciate
>> that Ms.
>> Harlos
>> does so. I don't see how it changes this
>> arrangement,
>> though.
>> We
>> have
>> rules against being an employee and a director
>> simultaneously -
>> to
>> the
>> extent an LNC member benefits (in addition to the
>> party
>> benefits)
>> from
>> such travel paid for by the party, the arrangement
>> is
>> somewhat
>> akin
>> to
>> employing that director to provide a service: in
>> this
>> case,
>> membership
>> recruitment. Maybe Ms. Harlos gets no benefit at
>> all
>> from such
>> travel,
>> but will that be true for future LNC members? The
>> potentials
>> for
>> self-dealing are numerous. Directors play a role
>> in
>> selecting
>> and
>> hiring staff - could directors hire and retain
>> staff who
>> will
>> provide
>> travel for those specific directors, and in turn,
>> then
>> enjoy an
>> advantage in future LNC elections?
>> I have every confidence that Ms. Harlos does not
>> campaign while
>> at
>> these conventions. If an LNC member attends a
>> convention and
>> is
>> highly
>> visible (you can't recruit national members if you
>> sit
>> in the
>> back
>> of
>> the room quietly), benefits are still gained,
>> albeit
>> incidentally
>> and
>> without that being the motive, in future elections.
>> It's not a
>> policy
>> manual violation because they're no campaigning,
>> but the
>> conflicts
>> remain potentially large. By definition, it is a
>> benefit not
>> available
>> to other candidates - the reason it doesn't violate
>> the
>> policy
>> manual
>> is that it's not done in the role of candidate.
>> Be that as it may, we could still decide that the
>> benefits
>> outweigh
>> the
>> dangers. That would be a reasonable decision.
>> However,
>> I am
>> of
>> the
>> opinion that before it began, it should have been
>> disclosed to
>> the
>> board and a vote taken of the disinterested
>> directors.
>> It
>> could be
>> pointed out that, potentially at least, there would
>> be
>> no
>> disinterested
>> directors in such a decision (at least in spirit) -
>> that
>> would
>> be a
>> reason not to do it.
>> Your answer to why you aren't sending other LNC
>> members
>> to
>> state
>> conventions is perfectly appropriate and rational.
>> You
>> should
>> not
>> send
>> people to state conventions at party expense who
>> will
>> not
>> produce a
>> positive return on investment (I, for instance,
>> probably
>> wouldn't). Of
>> course, other LNC members could, conceivably,
>> produce
>> value in
>> other
>> ways. I have provided parliamentary services for
>> several state
>> parties, sometimes with funding from the state
>> party,
>> sometimes
>> at
>> my
>> own expense. That's not something that produces
>> funds
>> for the
>> party,
>> of course, but it does provide affiliate support,
>> something we
>> also
>> do. I most certainly should not do that on party
>> funds. What,
>> precisely, is the difference? Well, membership
>> brings
>> in money
>> and, as
>> you note, numbers have been falling. Does that
>> make it
>> a
>> priority
>> over
>> providing other services, or the many other things
>> we
>> could
>> send
>> LNC
>> members to do? Well, maybe. The LNC did not adopt
>> any
>> goals
>> this
>> term. Last term, the LNC adopted goals, and
>> retaining/increasing
>> membership wasn't one of them. I believe you told
>> us
>> that you
>> weren't
>> focusing on membership numbers, as a result. As
>> has
>> come up in
>> prior
>> discussions, I agree with not prioritizing
>> membership
>> numbers -
>> I
>> think
>> that, over the long term (granted, not the
>> immediate
>> term) we
>> need
>> to
>> focus on relying less on membership for revenue and
>> developing
>> other
>> streams. To your credit, staff (and especially
>> Lauren)
>> has
>> been
>> developing other revenue streams, and doing so very
>> effectively.
>> Membership does have the advantage of predictable
>> cash
>> flow,
>> admittedly. But I simply am not that worried about
>> falling
>> membership
>> numbers persay - if anything, I think of membership
>> numbers as
>> the
>> tail, not the dog. That is, I think we can improve
>> membership
>> by
>> doing
>> things like electing candidates to public office
>> and
>> having
>> them
>> implement libertarian policies. More importantly,
>> this
>> board
>> doesn't
>> seem to regard it as a priority. But that is a
>> somewhat
>> different
>> question.
>> Or, to use another example, members of the LNC
>> travel to
>> states
>> where
>> signatures are needed and gather hundreds of
>> volunteer
>> signatures.
>> Granted, they don't desire to be paid for their
>> expenses
>> in
>> those
>> cases, but if they did, I don't think staff would
>> agree
>> to pay
>> -
>> and I
>> think that would be the right call, most of the
>> time at
>> least.
>> That
>> also doesn't put money in our pocket, although it
>> has
>> the
>> ultimate
>> effect (if history is any guide) of keeping money
>> there
>> that
>> would
>> otherwise leave.
>> So, in summary, my position is that we should not
>> fund
>> LNC
>> member
>> travel, even if the LNC member agrees not to run
>> for
>> reelection.
>> But I
>> recognize that opinions can differ on that, so my
>> additional
>> opinion is
>> that the board is within its rights to decide
>> otherwise,
>> but
>> that
>> potentially conflicted transactions involving board
>> members
>> should
>> be
>> discussed with the board ahead of time, and
>> approved by
>> a
>> majority
>> of
>> disinterested directors. What's done is done. I
>> think
>> that
>> before
>> it
>> continues, action should be taken to approve it (or
>> not)
>> by a
>> majority
>> of disinterested directors. There's no rule that
>> can
>> compel
>> that
>> outcome, it's just my opinion.
>> Joshua A. Katz
>> On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Wes Benedict
>> [17]<[1][8][12][22]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>> wrote:
>> Dear LNC,
>> Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
>> dues-paying
>> members
>> by
>> attending state conventions and getting
>> people to
>> join
>> or
>> renew.
>> At first, she did this at state conventions
>> she
>> was
>> attending
>> in her
>> region at her own expense.
>> Her results were so strong that I asked her
>> if
>> she would
>> be
>> willing
>> to go to some other states outside of her
>> region
>> to do
>> similar
>> fundraising efforts if her travel expenses
>> were
>> reimbursed.
>> We have been struggling to keep membership
>> from
>> falling.
>> We
>> send
>> renewal emails and renewal letters that
>> perform
>> reasonably
>> well
>> but
>> pretty much exhaust that method. Other
>> methods we
>> try
>> have
>> very
>> low
>> ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been comparatively
>> strong.
>> Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
>> convention last
>> weekend
>> and
>> recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members for
>> the
>> national
>> LP.
>> That trip is one in which we have reimbursed
>> her
>> for her
>> travel.
>> I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more state
>> conventions to
>> have
>> her do
>> this work. No one else has done this as
>> successfully as
>> Caryn
>> Ann.
>> Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't pay her
>> for
>> her
>> time.
>> For conventions that Caryn Ann is unable to
>> take
>> the
>> time to
>> attend,
>> I will be sending our staff member Jess
>> Mears.
>> The thing
>> with
>> Jess
>> is that we pay her for her hours to travel,
>> attend, and
>> return
>> from
>> state conventions. She's unlikely to get as
>> high
>> of a
>> ROI.
>> I received a complaint today that it is
>> inappropriate
>> for
>> someone
>> running for a position on the LNC to have
>> travel
>> reimbursed.
>> I sympathize with the complaint, but do not
>> think
>> it's a
>> violation
>> of our policies.
>> Nevertheless, I bring this up to the LNC for
>> your
>> feedback.
>> If
>> you
>> request a stop to sending Caryn Ann Harlos
>> or any
>> other
>> LNC
>> member
>> to state conventions for the purpose of
>> recruiting
>> dues-paying
>> members, we can end the program.
>> A reasonable question might be, "I'm willing
>> to
>> go to
>> state
>> convention at the expense of the LNC and
>> recruit
>> members--why
>> don't
>> you send me?" The answer is that Caryn Ann
>> proved
>> her
>> willingness
>> and capability within her own region. No
>> other
>> LNC
>> members
>> have
>> mailed us several envelopes of dues-paying
>> members from
>> their
>> states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears together
>> are not
>> able
>> to
>> attend
>> every state convention. If you are
>> interested in
>> helping,
>> and
>> willing to prove your ability first at a
>> state in
>> your
>> region
>> or at
>> another state at your own expense, let me
>> know
>> and we
>> might
>> be
>> able
>> [9]to try that. And then we can report the
>> results.
>> Below is a report from Robert Kraus with
>> some
>> of the
>> fundraising
>> results from Caryn Ann.
>> I welcome your feedback.
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>> [2][10][13](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
>> [1][3][11][[18]14][23]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> [2][4][12][15][24]facebook.com/libertarians
>> @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at:
>> [3][5][13][16][19][25]http://lp.org/membership
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Harlos Fundraising
>> Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47 -0500
>> From: Robert S. Kraus
>> [4][20]<[6][14][17][26]robert.kraus at lp.org>
>> To: Wes Benedict
>> [5]<[7][15][[21]18][27]wes.benedict at lp.org
>> >
>> I have Harlos pegged as solicitor for a total
>> of
>> $2,335.00
>> for
>> 82
>> members 49 of which where new (these 82 folks
>> have
>> also
>> contributed
>> a
>> net total excluding conv related gifts of
>> $6,261.74
>> since
>> 2016
>> convention - bunch of them to Hist Preservation
>> of
>> course
>> so
>> she has
>> her
>> fans)
>> In addition she is likely 95% responsible for
>> the
>> $12,120
>> raised for
>> Historic Preservation
>> Finally she has given $2181 herself since the
>> 2016
>> convention
>> (non
>> convention related - however $1525 was for Hist
>> Preservation)
>> --
>> Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
>> [[22]6]Operations at LP.org
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> 1444 Duke Street
>> Alexandria, VA 22314
>> Ph: [8]202.333.0008 x 231
>> References
>> 1.
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>>
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I do not wish to tie the party's hands...simply because the best person
for the job happens to be an LNC member.
On Feb 25, 2018 1:40 PM, "Elizabeth Van Horn"
<[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
Apparently, very few LNC members read your report.
This also doesn't address the issue of this being discussed by the
LNC, before a decision was made. Your report is after a decision
was made, and without this board weighing-in.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
[2]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
On 2018-02-25 14:17, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
Thank you Wes. Actually last night I did wake up and realize THIS
WAS
IN MY REPORT. I put EVERYTHING in my reports.
Any LNC member could have read that. It was sent to party
members. It
was posted online multiple places.
I reported it.
I hope that at least settles part of the political smear job that
has
ensued.
And I am going to relisten to that entire NOLA meeting (though
there
was equipment malfunction for part of the time) as I am pretty
positive
it was discussed informally there. Wes or Lauren may recall.
All of our policies were followed. I DID DISCLOSE THIS TO THE
LNC.
-Caryn Ann
On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 7:24 AM Wes Benedict
<[1][3]wes.benedict at lp.org>
wrote:
Substantial updates below.
Robert Kraus, based on the general direction provided by the
chair (a
copy pasted below), please issue the reimbursement to Caryn
Ann
Harlos
($439.73 I believe), but wait until Tuesday morning to do it
to
give
the LNC the opportunity to get a motion started to deny the
reimbursement in case they want to do that (something I
think is
unlikely, but of course possible). If a motion addressing
these
issues
has co-sponsors, even though we won't know for 10 days
whether or
not
it would pass, if a motion were in process, I'd find it
prudent
to hold
off on the reimbursement until such a motion has time to
complete.
Although it's among lots of other information, I think it's
worth
pointing out that Ms. Harlos included that she would be sent
to
some
state convention in 2018 in her region report at the
December
2017 LNC
meeting in New Orleans. Excerpt below:
Membership Growth - "I have been obtaining the lists of
Regional
lapsed members for Region 1 and making calls to encourage
renewal
earlier this year. I also have been promoting National
memberships
at the state conventions and have personally signed up
about
150 new
members between in-person and on-line renewals. I am being
sent
to
several conventions in 2018 by the national party to
recruit. I
constantly coach and encourage my region regarding
national
memberships."
[1][2][4]http://www.lp.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/2017-12-
09_LNC_Me
eting_
Region_1_Report.pdf
I do not recall if this program was discussed during some
portion
of
the LNC meeting (like budget or elsewhere). Daniel Hayes
mentioned he
recalls hearing about the program but that could have been
outside of
the meeting. I don't think I personally brought it up during
the
staff
portion of the meeting. In case anyone is inclined to do
review
the LNC
meeting, the LNC meeting can be watched again here:
[2][3][5]https://www.lp.org/event
/lnc-meeting-new-orleans-la/
Going forward . . .
Caryn Ann Harlos, please resume our plans for you to attend
state
conventions, to recruit members, and to have your travel
reimbursed by
the LNC (again, like above, unless the LNC initiates a
motion
aimed at
ending the practice in which case it would be wise to wait
for
that
motion to complete). Going forward, I think we should
restrict
reimbursements for visits outside of your region. Thank you
for
your
service. Sorry about the kerfuffle.
If any other LNC members are interested in visiting a state
convention
to recruit members and to have the expenses covered by the
party,
please identify the state convention you'd like to try and
I'll
let you
know if that one is covered yet and if I think it's a good
opportunity.
If interested, for transparency purposes, I think it's best
to
make
your offer publicly on this LNC discuss list. Also, please
provide
projections on the expenses and revenue you expect. I'll not
personally
approve a trip that is very likely to have too poor of an
ROI
(e.g. a
trip to an expensive place to reach with a likely low
attendance--no
offense intended, but Hawaii comes to mind--I'll not approve
Hawaii
unless someone makes a really good case for it). I will
intend to
report your results and based on your results from your
first
state
we'll see if a second state is warranted.
LNC members, this project is not critical. It will likely
cost
less
than 1% of our budget, and will likely bring in less than 1%
to
3% of
our members. If it's too much of a distraction, I will not
be
offended
if you vote to end the program and it likely won't have a
major
impact
(unless more LNC members participate and are more successful
than
I
anticipate).
I do like trying new things to get our membership up, and
like
using
volunteers when they are available if the staff required to
support the
volunteers isn't overly burdensome. I also like having LNC
members use
their talents when available.
As usual, our operations director Robert Kraus is always
happy to
provide lists of people to LNC members to call for
membership
renewals
and donations to the national party from the comfort of your
home. If
interested in making fundraising calls, let me or Robert
know.
(The chair's comments are below as referenced above.)
Thanks,
--Wes Benedict
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: [Lnc-business] Expense Reimbursement for
Fundraising
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2018 22:06:19 -0700
From: Nicholas Sarwark [3]<[4][6]chair at lp.org>
Reply-To: [4][5][7]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
To: [5][6][8]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
Dear All,
Expense reimbursements to LNC members have been made (and will
be
made
in the future) according to the rules set out in our policy
manual.
The Chair and/or the Treasurer (depending on the situation)
approve
the expenses and no officer approves his or her own expenses.
When expense reimbursements for party business are made to a
member
of
the LNC, they are reported on the related party transactions
portion
of the Treasurer's report.
As our fundraising infrastructure has improved, there are more
opportunities for fundraising events than there is availability
from
only staff and the Chair. If LNC members are able to handle
events
at
the direction of the Executive Director or Head of Development,
they
have been (and will continue to be) reimbursed for their
expenses
associated with those events.
Membership recruitment is one part of an effective fundraising
strategy. When a person makes an initial financial commitment
to
the
party, they are much more likely to make future financial
commitments
over their lifetime (and sometimes at the end of it).
Absent a change in the policy manual or specific guidance in
the
form
of a vote of the national committee, it is my intention to
proceed
as
we have been doing in consultation with the Treasurer,
Executive
Director, and the Head of Development.
Yours in liberty,
Nick
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
[9](202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [6][7][10]wes.benedict at lp.org
[8][11]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at:
[7][9][12]http://lp.org/membership
Wes Benedict wrote on 2/23/2018 2:09 PM:
Thanks for the response.
Joshua, we have sent Chair Sarwark and Vice Chair Vohra to
fundraising events and have reimbursed their travel
expenses.
Our Head of Development is setting up additional
fundraising
events
with the intention of the chair to attend.
What do you think about that? Would you recommend we cease
reimbursing the travel expenses for sending the chair for
fundraising events?
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
[13](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
[8][10][14]wes.benedict at lp.org
[11][15]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at:
[9][12][16]http://lp.org/membership
On 2/23/2018 1:56 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
As I said, what's done is done. You should send the
funds.
That's
just my opinion, of course, since I can't act for this
organization,
but it's my opinion.
Joshua A. Katz
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Wes Benedict
[10]<[1][13][17]wes.benedict at lp.org>
wrote:
Here's where we stand expense-wise on this if I have
my
facts
correct--and I have gotten facts wrong on this so I
want
to be
transparent and corrected if I'm wrong.
So far, we have reimbursed Caryn Ann Harlos $198.96
for
SW
Airlines
under "Membership Fundraising Costs" and I think
that was
for
the
Arizona state convention.
Additionally, Caryn Ann submitted expenses for
reimbursement
for
$439.73 to be paid for fundraising at the WA state
convention.
I submitted those expenses to the treasurer with a
request for
approval, received the approval, but we haven't sent
those
funds to
Caryn Ann yet. Approval attached, if attachments are
working
today.
Now I'm unsure what I should do about the $439.73.
I'm pretty sure I should go ahead and have the funds
issued,
because, this was all done in compliance with the
policy
manual and
with the knowledge of the chair and treasurer.
Is there any opposition to me issuing the funds to
Caryn
Ann
for the
$439.73?
Today coincidentally we received the memberships in
the
mail
from
WA: a total of 16 memberships for $690 total plus a
$25
a
month
donor.
Josh, what do you think? Do you think I should issue
the
payment of
$439.73 to Caryn Ann?
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
[2][18](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
[[11]3][14][19]wes.benedict at lp.org
[4][15][20]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at:
[5][12][16][21]http://lp.org/membership
On 2/23/2018 12:35 PM, Joshua Katz wrote:
I agree with the ED on scenario 1. I lean
towards
agreeing
about
Scenario 2.
There should also be LNC training, at the start
of
each
term
(or, at
least, this is my suggestion to future LNCs)
about
recognizing
issues
relating to duties of directors.
[22]Joshua A. Katz
On Fri, Feb 23, 2018 at 11:11 AM, Wes Benedict
[13]<[1][6][17][23]wes.benedict at lp.org>
wrote:
Scenario 1.
If the LNC wants to encourage the chair to
approve
reimbursing
Caryn
Ann Harlos for expenses for travel outside of
her
region
for
the
purpose of recruiting dues-paying members,
then the
LNC
can
pass a
motion to that effect.
==========
Unless that happens, I lean towards taking
Joshua's
advice of
discontinuing the practice, given that no one
has
spoken
up in
support, and that Caryn Ann has rescinded her
willingness.
I think Caryn Ann probably recruited more
dues-paying
members
to the
national LP in the past 12 months than all
other
LNC
members
combined.
Aaron Starr started a program called "Give or
Get".
It
was
quite
successful, was in 2006 to 2008 and you can
read
about
in the
LNC
minutes here:
[2][7][14][18][24]https://www.lp.org/lnc-meeting-archives/
I believe flights and hotel expenses were
covered for
a
few LNC
members for the "Give or Get" program. I point
that
out
because
there's a precedent for paying travel expenses
for
LNC
members to
do
fundraising.
The LNC has routinely reimbursed the current and
former
Chairs
for
travel expenses related to party business
including
fundraisers,
but
excluding LNC meetings, and in accordance with
the
Policy
Manual.
==========
Scenario 2.
While typing this note a donor has offered to
help
cover
Caryn
Ann's
expenses for this purpose. If the donor is
willing to
cover 100%
of
those expenses, and if the donor reimburses
Caryn Ann
directly,
and
then the donor reports the reimbursements to me
as an
in-kind
contribution (probably with the assistance of
Caryn
Ann),
that
would
take control of the process out of my hands and
out
of the
LNC's
hands.
==========
I recommend the LNC vote regarding Scenario 1,
so you
can
make it
more clear whether or not you approve having LNC
members
have
expenses reimbursed for raising funds, but
that's up
to
you all.
As
we ramp up our fundraising efforts, it will help
me
to
know if I
should make staff the primary relationship
builders
with
our
donors,
or if I should keep the opportunity open for
board
members
as
well.
I also encourage feedback from individual LNC
members
regarding
Scenario 2 even though technically I don't think
approval
is
required. I'd like that feedback because I'm
willing
to
cooperate
with Caryn Ann and the donor if there's not a
lot of
opposition
by
the LNC. If there's a lot of opposition by the
LNC,
I'll
be less
cooperative with Caryn Ann as she recruits
members
and
raises
funds
for the party.
Thanks,
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
[3]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
[4][8][25](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
[5][[15]9][19][26]wes.benedict at lp.org
[6][10][20][27]facebook.com/libertarians
@LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at:
[7][11][16][21][28]http://lp.org/membership
On 2/23/2018 12:01 AM, Joshua Katz wrote:
Wes,
Thank you for opening a discussion on this. I
do
not
believe
it is
proper to use party funds to send LNC members
to
state
conventions
unless they are "lame ducks" (and, honestly,
probably
not then
either). The facts provided are enlightening
and
important,
but
the
question here is about the principle, not the
people or
the
individual
circumstances. The principle is that, as you
note
in
your
email,
this
is a discretionary decision by staff. Staff
is
determining,
based,
to
be sure, on perfectly legitimate factors,
which LNC
members are
being
sent and where. There is nothing compelling
staff
in
the
future to
use
the factors you identify here, and different,
less
legitimate
factors,
could be used in the future. The way to
prevent
that is
"all
or
nothing." But "all" is impractical, and also
not a
good
idea.
Other corporations handle this in a more
direct
fashion
- they
pay
directors. We don't do that (and I'm not
suggesting
it). In
fact,
we
encourage directors to donate, and I highly
appreciate
that Ms.
Harlos
does so. I don't see how it changes this
arrangement,
though.
We
have
rules against being an employee and a director
simultaneously -
to
the
extent an LNC member benefits (in addition to
the
party
benefits)
from
such travel paid for by the party, the
arrangement
is
somewhat
akin
to
employing that director to provide a service:
in
this
case,
membership
recruitment. Maybe Ms. Harlos gets no benefit
at
all
from such
travel,
but will that be true for future LNC members?
The
potentials
for
self-dealing are numerous. Directors play a
role
in
selecting
and
hiring staff - could directors hire and retain
staff who
will
provide
travel for those specific directors, and in
turn,
then
enjoy an
advantage in future LNC elections?
I have every confidence that Ms. Harlos does
not
campaign while
at
these conventions. If an LNC member attends a
convention and
is
highly
visible (you can't recruit national members if
you
sit
in the
back
of
the room quietly), benefits are still gained,
albeit
incidentally
and
without that being the motive, in future
elections.
It's not a
policy
manual violation because they're no
campaigning,
but the
conflicts
remain potentially large. By definition, it
is a
benefit not
available
to other candidates - the reason it doesn't
violate
the
policy
manual
is that it's not done in the role of
candidate.
Be that as it may, we could still decide that
the
benefits
outweigh
the
dangers. That would be a reasonable decision.
However,
I am
of
the
opinion that before it began, it should have
been
disclosed to
the
board and a vote taken of the disinterested
directors.
It
could be
pointed out that, potentially at least, there
would
be
no
disinterested
directors in such a decision (at least in
spirit) -
that
would
be a
reason not to do it.
Your answer to why you aren't sending other
LNC
members
to
state
conventions is perfectly appropriate and
rational.
You
should
not
send
people to state conventions at party expense
who
will
not
produce a
positive return on investment (I, for
instance,
probably
wouldn't). Of
course, other LNC members could, conceivably,
produce
value in
other
ways. I have provided parliamentary services
for
several state
parties, sometimes with funding from the state
party,
sometimes
at
my
own expense. That's not something that
produces
funds
for the
party,
of course, but it does provide affiliate
support,
something we
also
do. I most certainly should not do that on
party
funds. What,
precisely, is the difference? Well,
membership
brings
in money
and, as
you note, numbers have been falling. Does
that
make it
a
priority
over
providing other services, or the many other
things
we
could
send
LNC
members to do? Well, maybe. The LNC did not
adopt
any
goals
this
term. Last term, the LNC adopted goals, and
retaining/increasing
membership wasn't one of them. I believe you
told
us
that you
weren't
focusing on membership numbers, as a result.
As
has
come up in
prior
discussions, I agree with not prioritizing
membership
numbers -
I
think
that, over the long term (granted, not the
immediate
term) we
need
to
focus on relying less on membership for
revenue and
developing
other
streams. To your credit, staff (and
especially
Lauren)
has
been
developing other revenue streams, and doing so
very
effectively.
Membership does have the advantage of
predictable
cash
flow,
admittedly. But I simply am not that worried
about
falling
membership
numbers persay - if anything, I think of
membership
numbers as
the
tail, not the dog. That is, I think we can
improve
membership
by
doing
things like electing candidates to public
office
and
having
them
implement libertarian policies. More
importantly,
this
board
doesn't
seem to regard it as a priority. But that is
a
somewhat
different
question.
Or, to use another example, members of the LNC
travel to
states
where
signatures are needed and gather hundreds of
volunteer
signatures.
Granted, they don't desire to be paid for
their
expenses
in
those
cases, but if they did, I don't think staff
would
agree
to pay
-
and I
think that would be the right call, most of
the
time at
least.
That
also doesn't put money in our pocket, although
it
has
the
ultimate
effect (if history is any guide) of keeping
money
there
that
would
otherwise leave.
So, in summary, my position is that we should
not
fund
LNC
member
travel, even if the LNC member agrees not to
run
for
reelection.
But I
recognize that opinions can differ on that, so
my
additional
opinion is
that the board is within its rights to decide
otherwise,
but
that
potentially conflicted transactions involving
board
members
should
be
discussed with the board ahead of time, and
approved by
a
majority
of
disinterested directors. What's done is
done. I
think
that
before
it
continues, action should be taken to approve
it (or
not)
by a
majority
of disinterested directors. There's no rule
that
can
compel
that
outcome, it's just my opinion.
Joshua A. Katz
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 9:56 PM, Wes
Benedict
[17]<[1][8][12][22][29]wes.benedict at lp.org>
wrote:
Dear LNC,
Caryn Ann Harlos has recruited a lot of
dues-paying
members
by
attending state conventions and getting
people to
join
or
renew.
At first, she did this at state
conventions
she
was
attending
in her
region at her own expense.
Her results were so strong that I asked
her
if
she would
be
willing
to go to some other states outside of
her
region
to do
similar
fundraising efforts if her travel
expenses
were
reimbursed.
We have been struggling to keep
membership
from
falling.
We
send
renewal emails and renewal letters that
perform
reasonably
well
but
pretty much exhaust that method. Other
methods we
try
have
very
low
ROI. Caryn Ann's ROI has been
comparatively
strong.
Caryn Ann attended the Washington State
convention last
weekend
and
recruited 18 to 20 dues-paying members
for
the
national
LP.
That trip is one in which we have
reimbursed
her
for her
travel.
I'd like to send Caryn Ann to more
state
conventions to
have
her do
this work. No one else has done this as
successfully as
Caryn
Ann.
Caryn Ann is a volunteer so we don't
pay her
for
her
time.
For conventions that Caryn Ann is
unable to
take
the
time to
attend,
I will be sending our staff member Jess
Mears.
The thing
with
Jess
is that we pay her for her hours to
travel,
attend, and
return
from
state conventions. She's unlikely to
get as
high
of a
ROI.
I received a complaint today that it is
inappropriate
for
someone
running for a position on the LNC to
have
travel
reimbursed.
I sympathize with the complaint, but do
not
think
it's a
violation
of our policies.
Nevertheless, I bring this up to the
LNC for
your
feedback.
If
you
request a stop to sending Caryn Ann
Harlos
or any
other
LNC
member
to state conventions for the purpose of
recruiting
dues-paying
members, we can end the program.
A reasonable question might be, "I'm
willing
to
go to
state
convention at the expense of the LNC
and
recruit
members--why
don't
you send me?" The answer is that Caryn
Ann
proved
her
willingness
and capability within her own region.
No
other
LNC
members
have
mailed us several envelopes of
dues-paying
members from
their
states. Caryn Ann and Jess Mears
together
are not
able
to
attend
every state convention. If you are
interested in
helping,
and
willing to prove your ability first at
a
state in
your
region
or at
another state at your own expense, let
me
know
and we
might
be
able
[9]to try that. And then we can
report the
results.
Below is a report from Robert Kraus
with
some
of the
fundraising
results from Caryn Ann.
I welcome your feedback.
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
[2][10][13][30](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
[1][3][11][[18]14][23][31]wes.benedict at lp.org
[2][4][12][15][24][32]facebook.com
/libertarians
@LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at:
[3][5][13][16][19][25][33]http://l
p.org/membership
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: Harlos Fundraising
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 11:27:47
-0500
From: Robert S. Kraus
[4][20]<[6][14][17][26][34]robert.kraus at lp.org>
To: Wes Benedict
[5]<[7][15][[21]18][27][35]wes.benedict at lp.org
>
I have Harlos pegged as solicitor for a
total
of
$2,335.00
for
82
members 49 of which where new (these 82
folks
have
also
contributed
a
net total excluding conv related gifts of
$6,261.74
since
2016
convention - bunch of them to Hist
Preservation
of
course
so
she has
her
fans)
In addition she is likely 95% responsible
for
the
$12,120
raised for
Historic Preservation
Finally she has given $2181 herself since
the
2016
convention
(non
convention related - however $1525 was for
Hist
Preservation)
--
Robert S. Kraus - Operations Director
[[22]6]Operations at LP.org
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke Street
Alexandria, VA 22314
Ph: [8]202.333.0008 x 231
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