[Lnc-business] Membership Recruitment

Wes Benedict wes.benedict at lp.org
Sat Mar 10 17:56:38 EST 2018


Good catch. 2018-03-10 V1.1 attached. Includes Tim's update.

Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
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Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership

On 3/10/2018 5:51 PM, Tim Hagan wrote:
> The completed forms plus funds need to be mailed no later than ten 
> days, not 14 days, after receiving them.
>
> According to federal regulations (11 CFR 102.8(b)(2)): "Every person 
> who receives a contribution in excess of $50 for a political committee 
> which is not an authorized committee shall, no later than 10 days 
> after receipt of the contribution, forward to the treasurer of the 
> political committee: The contribution; the name and address of the 
> contributor; and the date of receipt of the contribution. If the 
> amount of the contribution is in excess of $200, such person shall 
> forward the contribution, the identification of the contributor in 
> accordance with 11 CFR 100.12, and the date of receipt of the 
> contribution. Date of receipt shall be the date such person obtains 
> possession of the contribution. "
>
> ---
> Tim Hagan
> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>
> On 2018-03-10 12:42, Wes Benedict wrote:
>> In a separate note, Steve Scheetz kindly offered to participate in
>> this program. I'm replying to this particular note instead of his, in
>> order to keep some of my historical notes on this topic easier to
>> find.
>>
>> Attached is a draft of the plan in a bit more formal format for
>> feedback. Steve and others, take a look and let me know what you
>> think.
>>
>> I'll see what feedback you all have, think it over a bit, and then
>> later decide next steps if any.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>
>> On 3/9/2018 9:42 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>> The Libertarian Party has been offering T-shirts and other things as 
>>> membership promotions for a long time.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> https://www.lp.org/join11/
>>> https://www.lp.org/join10/
>>> https://www.lp.org/join9/
>>>
>>> If I remember correctly Caryn Ann started out recruiting members at 
>>> state conventions without offering anything in return. As she did 
>>> that work, members who had seen T-shirt offerings various places 
>>> online would start to ask Caryn Ann "can I get a shirt since I joined."
>>>
>>> Our standard response to those who ask has been "yes we'll give you 
>>> a shirt. What size do you wear?" and we ship them a shirt (polos 
>>> excluded because they are higher cost").
>>>
>>> As a result of Caryn Ann recruiting so many members and members 
>>> asking for shirts, quite some time ago I decided to provide a small 
>>> supply of shirts to Caryn Ann to use when promoting memberships.
>>>
>>> If any other LNC members want to help recruit memberships, let me 
>>> know, and I'll send you a small supply of these two shirts:
>>> https://lpstore.org/product/long-sleeve-black-t-shirt/
>>> https://lpstore.org/product/im-with-her-t-shirt/
>>>
>>> These shirts are to be used for membership recruitment purposes. Any 
>>> you don't use should be returned to me in the future.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>
>>> On 3/9/2018 8:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>     There is no service.  Conversely in fact.
>>>>
>>>>     (and btw though not applicable it is an either/or in that 
>>>> statement)
>>>>
>>>>     On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:55 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>     <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>       Caryn Ann, you're running for a national officer position.  
>>>> From the
>>>>       LNC
>>>>       Policy Manual page 46:
>>>>       ------
>>>>       "6) Limitations on Party Support for Party Office
>>>>       Party resources shall not be used to provide information or 
>>>> services
>>>>       for
>>>>       any candidate for party
>>>>       office unless:
>>>>       • such information or services are available and announced on an
>>>>       equal
>>>>       basis to all
>>>>       Libertarians who have declared they are seeking that office, or
>>>>       • such information or services are generally available and 
>>>> announced
>>>>       to
>>>>       all party
>>>>       members."
>>>>       -----
>>>>       The above language isn't "either/or", which would indicate 
>>>> only one
>>>>       condition applies. Both conditions apply.
>>>>       ---
>>>>       Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>       On 2018-03-09 01:56, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>       > I say let’s get everyone who wants to recruiting.  I don’t 
>>>> see a
>>>>       line
>>>>       >    forming after the last offer by Wes.
>>>>       >    And we are insanely territorial. And I will continue to 
>>>> point
>>>>       it
>>>>       > out.
>>>>       >    I don’t appreciate its existence.
>>>>       >    I almost as a joke was going to ask if I needed 
>>>> permission to
>>>>       wear
>>>>       > my
>>>>       >    Party issued name badge.  Then I stopped and realized 
>>>> that the
>>>>       > internal
>>>>       >    senseless politicking has reached Peak Poe’s Law and it is
>>>>       >    indistinguishable from a parody of itself and it could go
>>>>       either
>>>>       > way.
>>>>       >    I will be.  Lodge objections now.
>>>>       >    On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:02 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>       >    <[1][2]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>       >
>>>>       >      Caryn Ann, people can go to the website and sign-up for
>>>>       > membership.
>>>>       >      I
>>>>       >      have no idea what you mean by "the standard membership 
>>>> pitch"
>>>>       or
>>>>       >      standard supplies.  Nor, do I appreciate you using terms
>>>>       like,
>>>>       >      "insanely
>>>>       >      territorial and self-destructive", when I'm saying to 
>>>> you the
>>>>       same
>>>>       >      things I'd say to anyone who is running a campaign for a
>>>>       national
>>>>       > LP
>>>>       >      officer position.  We currently have three people 
>>>> running for
>>>>       > chair,
>>>>       >      and
>>>>       >      six or seven running for Vice-Chair, and two that I 
>>>> know of
>>>>       who
>>>>       > are
>>>>       >      running (maybe declared) for secretary. Gosh, at this 
>>>> rate,
>>>>       more
>>>>       >      people
>>>>       >      may jump into the fray.  Are all these people going to be
>>>>       given
>>>>       > the
>>>>       >      same
>>>>       >      materials?  Some are making trips to a lot of state
>>>>       conventions.
>>>>       >      Are those people going to be given the exact same 
>>>> supplies as
>>>>       you?
>>>>       >      If
>>>>       >      the supplies are T-shirts and gifts, then do they all get
>>>>       those to
>>>>       >      give
>>>>       >      to people while they campaign?  What if they're 
>>>> signing-up
>>>>       > national
>>>>       >      members?  As it's easier to influence people when they're
>>>>       being
>>>>       >      given
>>>>       >      something.
>>>>       >      You yourself wrote:   "People sign up twice as much 
>>>> when they
>>>>       get
>>>>       >      something in their hands on the spot."  That goes for
>>>>       campaigning
>>>>       >      too.
>>>>       >      I'm still not understanding why you send envelopes to 
>>>> LPHQ
>>>>       when
>>>>       >      signing
>>>>       >      up members.  I've never heard of anyone doing that.  
>>>> People I
>>>>       know
>>>>       >      just
>>>>       >      sign-up someone, and that's that.  We're not keeping 
>>>> track or
>>>>       >      recording
>>>>       >      the numbers, as it's not a competition.
>>>>       >      Turning the tide on membership isn't going to happen with
>>>>       >      blitz-sign-ups
>>>>       >      at conventions. Daily I'm seeing people announce that 
>>>> they're
>>>>       >      leaving
>>>>       >      the LP.  Some even shared with me information on new
>>>>       political
>>>>       > party
>>>>       >      they're attempting to start. (Former LP members who 
>>>> all just
>>>>       left
>>>>       >      the LP
>>>>       >      this past year) The issue is a systemic one. When I 
>>>> mention
>>>>       this
>>>>       >      issue,
>>>>       >      I get the usual reaction from the usual people. So, I 
>>>> expect
>>>>       no
>>>>       >      different this time.
>>>>       >      If you wish to take up this issue at the April LNC 
>>>> meeting,
>>>>       then I
>>>>       >      look
>>>>       >      forward to the discussion.
>>>>       >      ---
>>>>       >      Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>       >      LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>>       >      Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>>>       >      Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>>>>       >      Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>>       >      [2][3]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>       >      On 2018-03-09 00:19, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>       >      > Members are entitled to a free shirt.
>>>>       >      >    All of us should be doing this and that 
>>>> opportunity is
>>>>       > equally
>>>>       >      >    available to all.
>>>>       >      >    To say that successful recruiters who happen to be
>>>>       running
>>>>       >      cannot
>>>>       >      > use
>>>>       >      >    the standard membership pitch to me is where we get
>>>>       insanely
>>>>       >      >    territorial and self-destructive.
>>>>       >      >    People sign up twice as much when they get 
>>>> something in
>>>>       their
>>>>       >      hands
>>>>       >      > on
>>>>       >      >    the spot.
>>>>       >      >    I will get 100 more members.  If I have to be 
>>>> hobbled by
>>>>       not
>>>>       >      even
>>>>       >      >    having the standard supplies, well - we aren’t
>>>>       interested in
>>>>       >      signing
>>>>       >      > up
>>>>       >      >    members because we are too concerned over our
>>>>       internicence
>>>>       >      >    calculations.  And if that’s the case - I’m not 
>>>> setting
>>>>       > myself
>>>>       >      up
>>>>       >      > for
>>>>       >      >    failure.  If I’m going to recruit, I’m going to kick
>>>>       ass.  If
>>>>       >      I’m
>>>>       >      > not
>>>>       >      >    equipped for success then I’m going to put my energy
>>>>       > elsewhere
>>>>       >      and
>>>>       >      > will
>>>>       >      >    deliver to Wes in April the remainder and will 
>>>> not get
>>>>       the 20
>>>>       >      at the
>>>>       >      > CO
>>>>       >      >    convention which is my goal.
>>>>       >      >    I would like the rest of the LNC to weigh in.
>>>>       >      >    If not please consider this my request for agenda 
>>>> time
>>>>       in
>>>>       > April
>>>>       >      to
>>>>       >      >    settle this.
>>>>       >      >    -Caryn Ann
>>>>       >      >    -Caryn Ann
>>>>       >      >    On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:54 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>       >      > <[1][3][4]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>       >      >
>>>>       >      >      Caryn Ann, I think it's great that you do 
>>>> membership
>>>>       >      recruiting.
>>>>       >      >      My concern would be if you're personal 
>>>> campaigning and
>>>>       also
>>>>       >      using
>>>>       >      >      membership supplies that are gifts/freebie 
>>>> things to
>>>>       give
>>>>       > to
>>>>       >      >      prospective
>>>>       >      >      recruits.  (You'd mentioned T-shirts, in a past
>>>>       > communication
>>>>       >      on
>>>>       >      >      this
>>>>       >      >      subject.)   I'm not sure what membership supplies
>>>>       you'd
>>>>       > need,
>>>>       >      as
>>>>       >      >      signing
>>>>       >      >      up members can just be done with a laptop on 
>>>> the spot.
>>>>       No
>>>>       >      need for
>>>>       >      >      supplies.  So, if you're not giving people 
>>>> gifts or
>>>>       freebie
>>>>       >      stuff,
>>>>       >      >      while
>>>>       >      >      signing-up/campaigning, then I see no issue.
>>>>       >      >      ---
>>>>       >      >      Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>       >      >      LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>>       >      >      Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>>>       >      >      Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>>>>       >      >      Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>>       >      >      [2][4][5]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>       >      >      On 2018-03-08 23:34, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>       >      >      > Beginning April I will be at a convention nearly
>>>>       every
>>>>       >      weekend,
>>>>       >      >      some of
>>>>       >      >      >    them I am an invited guest speaker and 
>>>> other are
>>>>       >      campaign
>>>>       >      >      trips.
>>>>       >      >      >    Is there any objection to my continuing my
>>>>       membership
>>>>       >      >      recruitment
>>>>       >      >      >    during these trips (no cost to the Party 
>>>> other
>>>>       than
>>>>       > the
>>>>       >      >      membership
>>>>       >      >      >    supplies).
>>>>       >      >      >    --
>>>>       >      >      >    --
>>>>       >      >      >    In Liberty,
>>>>       >      >      >    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>       >      >      >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>>>>       > Committee
>>>>       >      >      (Alaska,
>>>>       >      >      >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, 
>>>> Montana, Utah,
>>>>       >      Wyoming,
>>>>       >      >      > Washington)
>>>>       >      >      >    - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>       >      >      >    Communications Director, [2]Libertarian 
>>>> Party of
>>>>       >      Colorado
>>>>       >      >      >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>       >      >      >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>       >      >      >    We defend your rights
>>>>       >      >      >    And oppose the use of force
>>>>       >      >      >    Taxation is theft
>>>>       >      >      >
>>>>       >      >      > References
>>>>       >      >      >
>>>>       >      >      >    1. mailto:[3]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>       >      >      >    2. [4][5][6]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>       >      >
>>>>       >      >    --
>>>>       >      >
>>>>       >      >    --
>>>>       >      >    In Liberty,
>>>>       >      >    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>       >      >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National 
>>>> Committee
>>>>       >      (Alaska,
>>>>       >      >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>>>>       Wyoming,
>>>>       >      > Washington)
>>>>       >      >    - [5]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>       >      >    Communications Director, [6]Libertarian Party of
>>>>       Colorado
>>>>       >      >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>       >      >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>       >      >    We defend your rights
>>>>       >      >    And oppose the use of force
>>>>       >      >    Taxation is theft
>>>>       >      >
>>>>       >      > References
>>>>       >      >
>>>>       >      >    1. mailto:[6][7]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>       >      >    2. [7][8]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>       >      >    3. mailto:[8]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>       >      >    4. [9][9]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>       >      >    5. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>       >      >    6. [11][10]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>       >
>>>>       >    --
>>>>       >
>>>>       >    --
>>>>       >    In Liberty,
>>>>       >    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>       >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>       (Alaska,
>>>>       >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>>       > Washington)
>>>>       >    - [12]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>       >    Communications Director, [13]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>       >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>       >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>       >    We defend your rights
>>>>       >    And oppose the use of force
>>>>       >    Taxation is theft
>>>>       >
>>>>       > References
>>>>       >
>>>>       >    1. mailto:[11]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>       >    2. [12]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>       >    3. mailto:[13]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>       >    4. [14]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>       >    5. [15]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>       >    6. mailto:[16]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>       >    7. [17]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>       >    8. mailto:[18]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>       >    9. [19]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>       >   10. mailto:[20]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>       >   11. [21]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>       >   12. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>       >   13. [23]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>
>>>>     --
>>>>
>>>>     --
>>>>     In Liberty,
>>>>     Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>     Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>>     Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, 
>>>> Washington)
>>>>     - [24]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>     Communications Director, [25]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>     Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>     A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>     We defend your rights
>>>>     And oppose the use of force
>>>>     Taxation is theft
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>>     1. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>     2. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>     3. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>     4. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>     5. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>     6. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>     7. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>     8. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>     9. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>    10. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>    11. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>    12. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>    13. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>    14. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>    15. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>    16. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>    17. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>    18. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>    19. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>    20. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>    21. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>    22. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>    23. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>    24. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>    25. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>
>>>

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