[Lnc-business] Membership Recruitment
Wes Benedict
wes.benedict at lp.org
Sat Mar 10 17:56:38 EST 2018
Good catch. 2018-03-10 V1.1 attached. Includes Tim's update.
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
(202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
On 3/10/2018 5:51 PM, Tim Hagan wrote:
> The completed forms plus funds need to be mailed no later than ten
> days, not 14 days, after receiving them.
>
> According to federal regulations (11 CFR 102.8(b)(2)): "Every person
> who receives a contribution in excess of $50 for a political committee
> which is not an authorized committee shall, no later than 10 days
> after receipt of the contribution, forward to the treasurer of the
> political committee: The contribution; the name and address of the
> contributor; and the date of receipt of the contribution. If the
> amount of the contribution is in excess of $200, such person shall
> forward the contribution, the identification of the contributor in
> accordance with 11 CFR 100.12, and the date of receipt of the
> contribution. Date of receipt shall be the date such person obtains
> possession of the contribution. "
>
> ---
> Tim Hagan
> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>
> On 2018-03-10 12:42, Wes Benedict wrote:
>> In a separate note, Steve Scheetz kindly offered to participate in
>> this program. I'm replying to this particular note instead of his, in
>> order to keep some of my historical notes on this topic easier to
>> find.
>>
>> Attached is a draft of the plan in a bit more formal format for
>> feedback. Steve and others, take a look and let me know what you
>> think.
>>
>> I'll see what feedback you all have, think it over a bit, and then
>> later decide next steps if any.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>
>> On 3/9/2018 9:42 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>> The Libertarian Party has been offering T-shirts and other things as
>>> membership promotions for a long time.
>>>
>>> For example:
>>>
>>> https://www.lp.org/join11/
>>> https://www.lp.org/join10/
>>> https://www.lp.org/join9/
>>>
>>> If I remember correctly Caryn Ann started out recruiting members at
>>> state conventions without offering anything in return. As she did
>>> that work, members who had seen T-shirt offerings various places
>>> online would start to ask Caryn Ann "can I get a shirt since I joined."
>>>
>>> Our standard response to those who ask has been "yes we'll give you
>>> a shirt. What size do you wear?" and we ship them a shirt (polos
>>> excluded because they are higher cost").
>>>
>>> As a result of Caryn Ann recruiting so many members and members
>>> asking for shirts, quite some time ago I decided to provide a small
>>> supply of shirts to Caryn Ann to use when promoting memberships.
>>>
>>> If any other LNC members want to help recruit memberships, let me
>>> know, and I'll send you a small supply of these two shirts:
>>> https://lpstore.org/product/long-sleeve-black-t-shirt/
>>> https://lpstore.org/product/im-with-her-t-shirt/
>>>
>>> These shirts are to be used for membership recruitment purposes. Any
>>> you don't use should be returned to me in the future.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>
>>> On 3/9/2018 8:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>> There is no service. Conversely in fact.
>>>>
>>>> (and btw though not applicable it is an either/or in that
>>>> statement)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:55 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Caryn Ann, you're running for a national officer position.
>>>> From the
>>>> LNC
>>>> Policy Manual page 46:
>>>> ------
>>>> "6) Limitations on Party Support for Party Office
>>>> Party resources shall not be used to provide information or
>>>> services
>>>> for
>>>> any candidate for party
>>>> office unless:
>>>> • such information or services are available and announced on an
>>>> equal
>>>> basis to all
>>>> Libertarians who have declared they are seeking that office, or
>>>> • such information or services are generally available and
>>>> announced
>>>> to
>>>> all party
>>>> members."
>>>> -----
>>>> The above language isn't "either/or", which would indicate
>>>> only one
>>>> condition applies. Both conditions apply.
>>>> ---
>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> On 2018-03-09 01:56, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>> > I say let’s get everyone who wants to recruiting. I don’t
>>>> see a
>>>> line
>>>> > forming after the last offer by Wes.
>>>> > And we are insanely territorial. And I will continue to
>>>> point
>>>> it
>>>> > out.
>>>> > I don’t appreciate its existence.
>>>> > I almost as a joke was going to ask if I needed
>>>> permission to
>>>> wear
>>>> > my
>>>> > Party issued name badge. Then I stopped and realized
>>>> that the
>>>> > internal
>>>> > senseless politicking has reached Peak Poe’s Law and it is
>>>> > indistinguishable from a parody of itself and it could go
>>>> either
>>>> > way.
>>>> > I will be. Lodge objections now.
>>>> > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:02 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> > <[1][2]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Caryn Ann, people can go to the website and sign-up for
>>>> > membership.
>>>> > I
>>>> > have no idea what you mean by "the standard membership
>>>> pitch"
>>>> or
>>>> > standard supplies. Nor, do I appreciate you using terms
>>>> like,
>>>> > "insanely
>>>> > territorial and self-destructive", when I'm saying to
>>>> you the
>>>> same
>>>> > things I'd say to anyone who is running a campaign for a
>>>> national
>>>> > LP
>>>> > officer position. We currently have three people
>>>> running for
>>>> > chair,
>>>> > and
>>>> > six or seven running for Vice-Chair, and two that I
>>>> know of
>>>> who
>>>> > are
>>>> > running (maybe declared) for secretary. Gosh, at this
>>>> rate,
>>>> more
>>>> > people
>>>> > may jump into the fray. Are all these people going to be
>>>> given
>>>> > the
>>>> > same
>>>> > materials? Some are making trips to a lot of state
>>>> conventions.
>>>> > Are those people going to be given the exact same
>>>> supplies as
>>>> you?
>>>> > If
>>>> > the supplies are T-shirts and gifts, then do they all get
>>>> those to
>>>> > give
>>>> > to people while they campaign? What if they're
>>>> signing-up
>>>> > national
>>>> > members? As it's easier to influence people when they're
>>>> being
>>>> > given
>>>> > something.
>>>> > You yourself wrote: "People sign up twice as much
>>>> when they
>>>> get
>>>> > something in their hands on the spot." That goes for
>>>> campaigning
>>>> > too.
>>>> > I'm still not understanding why you send envelopes to
>>>> LPHQ
>>>> when
>>>> > signing
>>>> > up members. I've never heard of anyone doing that.
>>>> People I
>>>> know
>>>> > just
>>>> > sign-up someone, and that's that. We're not keeping
>>>> track or
>>>> > recording
>>>> > the numbers, as it's not a competition.
>>>> > Turning the tide on membership isn't going to happen with
>>>> > blitz-sign-ups
>>>> > at conventions. Daily I'm seeing people announce that
>>>> they're
>>>> > leaving
>>>> > the LP. Some even shared with me information on new
>>>> political
>>>> > party
>>>> > they're attempting to start. (Former LP members who
>>>> all just
>>>> left
>>>> > the LP
>>>> > this past year) The issue is a systemic one. When I
>>>> mention
>>>> this
>>>> > issue,
>>>> > I get the usual reaction from the usual people. So, I
>>>> expect
>>>> no
>>>> > different this time.
>>>> > If you wish to take up this issue at the April LNC
>>>> meeting,
>>>> then I
>>>> > look
>>>> > forward to the discussion.
>>>> > ---
>>>> > Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> > LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>> > Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>>> > Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>>>> > Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>> > [2][3]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> > On 2018-03-09 00:19, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>> > > Members are entitled to a free shirt.
>>>> > > All of us should be doing this and that
>>>> opportunity is
>>>> > equally
>>>> > > available to all.
>>>> > > To say that successful recruiters who happen to be
>>>> running
>>>> > cannot
>>>> > > use
>>>> > > the standard membership pitch to me is where we get
>>>> insanely
>>>> > > territorial and self-destructive.
>>>> > > People sign up twice as much when they get
>>>> something in
>>>> their
>>>> > hands
>>>> > > on
>>>> > > the spot.
>>>> > > I will get 100 more members. If I have to be
>>>> hobbled by
>>>> not
>>>> > even
>>>> > > having the standard supplies, well - we aren’t
>>>> interested in
>>>> > signing
>>>> > > up
>>>> > > members because we are too concerned over our
>>>> internicence
>>>> > > calculations. And if that’s the case - I’m not
>>>> setting
>>>> > myself
>>>> > up
>>>> > > for
>>>> > > failure. If I’m going to recruit, I’m going to kick
>>>> ass. If
>>>> > I’m
>>>> > > not
>>>> > > equipped for success then I’m going to put my energy
>>>> > elsewhere
>>>> > and
>>>> > > will
>>>> > > deliver to Wes in April the remainder and will
>>>> not get
>>>> the 20
>>>> > at the
>>>> > > CO
>>>> > > convention which is my goal.
>>>> > > I would like the rest of the LNC to weigh in.
>>>> > > If not please consider this my request for agenda
>>>> time
>>>> in
>>>> > April
>>>> > to
>>>> > > settle this.
>>>> > > -Caryn Ann
>>>> > > -Caryn Ann
>>>> > > On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:54 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> > > <[1][3][4]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Caryn Ann, I think it's great that you do
>>>> membership
>>>> > recruiting.
>>>> > > My concern would be if you're personal
>>>> campaigning and
>>>> also
>>>> > using
>>>> > > membership supplies that are gifts/freebie
>>>> things to
>>>> give
>>>> > to
>>>> > > prospective
>>>> > > recruits. (You'd mentioned T-shirts, in a past
>>>> > communication
>>>> > on
>>>> > > this
>>>> > > subject.) I'm not sure what membership supplies
>>>> you'd
>>>> > need,
>>>> > as
>>>> > > signing
>>>> > > up members can just be done with a laptop on
>>>> the spot.
>>>> No
>>>> > need for
>>>> > > supplies. So, if you're not giving people
>>>> gifts or
>>>> freebie
>>>> > stuff,
>>>> > > while
>>>> > > signing-up/campaigning, then I see no issue.
>>>> > > ---
>>>> > > Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> > > LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>> > > Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>>> > > Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>>>> > > Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>> > > [2][4][5]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> > > On 2018-03-08 23:34, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>> > > > Beginning April I will be at a convention nearly
>>>> every
>>>> > weekend,
>>>> > > some of
>>>> > > > them I am an invited guest speaker and
>>>> other are
>>>> > campaign
>>>> > > trips.
>>>> > > > Is there any objection to my continuing my
>>>> membership
>>>> > > recruitment
>>>> > > > during these trips (no cost to the Party
>>>> other
>>>> than
>>>> > the
>>>> > > membership
>>>> > > > supplies).
>>>> > > > --
>>>> > > > --
>>>> > > > In Liberty,
>>>> > > > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> > > > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>>>> > Committee
>>>> > > (Alaska,
>>>> > > > Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
>>>> Montana, Utah,
>>>> > Wyoming,
>>>> > > > Washington)
>>>> > > > - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>> > > > Communications Director, [2]Libertarian
>>>> Party of
>>>> > Colorado
>>>> > > > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>> > > > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> > > > We defend your rights
>>>> > > > And oppose the use of force
>>>> > > > Taxation is theft
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > References
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > 1. mailto:[3]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>> > > > 2. [4][5][6]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > In Liberty,
>>>> > > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> > > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
>>>> Committee
>>>> > (Alaska,
>>>> > > Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
>>>> Wyoming,
>>>> > > Washington)
>>>> > > - [5]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>> > > Communications Director, [6]Libertarian Party of
>>>> Colorado
>>>> > > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>> > > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> > > We defend your rights
>>>> > > And oppose the use of force
>>>> > > Taxation is theft
>>>> > >
>>>> > > References
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 1. mailto:[6][7]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> > > 2. [7][8]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> > > 3. mailto:[8]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>> > > 4. [9][9]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> > > 5. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>> > > 6. [11][10]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > In Liberty,
>>>> > Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> > Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>> (Alaska,
>>>> > Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>> > Washington)
>>>> > - [12]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>> > Communications Director, [13]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> > Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>> > A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> > We defend your rights
>>>> > And oppose the use of force
>>>> > Taxation is theft
>>>> >
>>>> > References
>>>> >
>>>> > 1. mailto:[11]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> > 2. [12]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> > 3. mailto:[13]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> > 4. [14]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> > 5. [15]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> > 6. mailto:[16]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> > 7. [17]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> > 8. mailto:[18]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>> > 9. [19]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> > 10. mailto:[20]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>> > 11. [21]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> > 12. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>> > 13. [23]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> In Liberty,
>>>> Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>>>> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>>>> Washington)
>>>> - [24]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>> Communications Director, [25]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>> We defend your rights
>>>> And oppose the use of force
>>>> Taxation is theft
>>>>
>>>> References
>>>>
>>>> 1. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 2. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 3. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 4. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 5. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 6. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 7. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 8. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 9. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 10. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 11. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 12. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 13. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 14. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 15. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 16. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>> 17. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>> 18. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>> 19. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 20. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>> 21. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 22. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>> 23. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>> 24. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>> 25. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>
>>>
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