[Lnc-business] Membership Recruitment

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Sat Mar 10 18:22:23 EST 2018


I’ve always mailed within 5.

I really like this system here Wes.

Would you like me to test it for the CO convention?


On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:56 PM Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:

> Good catch. 2018-03-10 V1.1 attached. Includes Tim's update.
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>
> On 3/10/2018 5:51 PM, Tim Hagan wrote:
> > The completed forms plus funds need to be mailed no later than ten
> > days, not 14 days, after receiving them.
> >
> > According to federal regulations (11 CFR 102.8(b)(2)): "Every person
> > who receives a contribution in excess of $50 for a political committee
> > which is not an authorized committee shall, no later than 10 days
> > after receipt of the contribution, forward to the treasurer of the
> > political committee: The contribution; the name and address of the
> > contributor; and the date of receipt of the contribution. If the
> > amount of the contribution is in excess of $200, such person shall
> > forward the contribution, the identification of the contributor in
> > accordance with 11 CFR 100.12, and the date of receipt of the
> > contribution. Date of receipt shall be the date such person obtains
> > possession of the contribution. "
> >
> > ---
> > Tim Hagan
> > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
> >
> > On 2018-03-10 12:42, Wes Benedict wrote:
> >> In a separate note, Steve Scheetz kindly offered to participate in
> >> this program. I'm replying to this particular note instead of his, in
> >> order to keep some of my historical notes on this topic easier to
> >> find.
> >>
> >> Attached is a draft of the plan in a bit more formal format for
> >> feedback. Steve and others, take a look and let me know what you
> >> think.
> >>
> >> I'll see what feedback you all have, think it over a bit, and then
> >> later decide next steps if any.
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> >> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> >> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> >> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
> >> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> >> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
> >>
> >> On 3/9/2018 9:42 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
> >>> The Libertarian Party has been offering T-shirts and other things as
> >>> membership promotions for a long time.
> >>>
> >>> For example:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.lp.org/join11/
> >>> https://www.lp.org/join10/
> >>> https://www.lp.org/join9/
> >>>
> >>> If I remember correctly Caryn Ann started out recruiting members at
> >>> state conventions without offering anything in return. As she did
> >>> that work, members who had seen T-shirt offerings various places
> >>> online would start to ask Caryn Ann "can I get a shirt since I joined."
> >>>
> >>> Our standard response to those who ask has been "yes we'll give you
> >>> a shirt. What size do you wear?" and we ship them a shirt (polos
> >>> excluded because they are higher cost").
> >>>
> >>> As a result of Caryn Ann recruiting so many members and members
> >>> asking for shirts, quite some time ago I decided to provide a small
> >>> supply of shirts to Caryn Ann to use when promoting memberships.
> >>>
> >>> If any other LNC members want to help recruit memberships, let me
> >>> know, and I'll send you a small supply of these two shirts:
> >>> https://lpstore.org/product/long-sleeve-black-t-shirt/
> >>> https://lpstore.org/product/im-with-her-t-shirt/
> >>>
> >>> These shirts are to be used for membership recruitment purposes. Any
> >>> you don't use should be returned to me in the future.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> >>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> >>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> >>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
> >>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> >>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
> >>>
> >>> On 3/9/2018 8:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >>>>     There is no service.  Conversely in fact.
> >>>>
> >>>>     (and btw though not applicable it is an either/or in that
> >>>> statement)
> >>>>
> >>>>     On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:55 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>>     <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>       Caryn Ann, you're running for a national officer position.
> >>>> From the
> >>>>       LNC
> >>>>       Policy Manual page 46:
> >>>>       ------
> >>>>       "6) Limitations on Party Support for Party Office
> >>>>       Party resources shall not be used to provide information or
> >>>> services
> >>>>       for
> >>>>       any candidate for party
> >>>>       office unless:
> >>>>       • such information or services are available and announced on an
> >>>>       equal
> >>>>       basis to all
> >>>>       Libertarians who have declared they are seeking that office, or
> >>>>       • such information or services are generally available and
> >>>> announced
> >>>>       to
> >>>>       all party
> >>>>       members."
> >>>>       -----
> >>>>       The above language isn't "either/or", which would indicate
> >>>> only one
> >>>>       condition applies. Both conditions apply.
> >>>>       ---
> >>>>       Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>>       On 2018-03-09 01:56, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >>>>       > I say let’s get everyone who wants to recruiting.  I don’t
> >>>> see a
> >>>>       line
> >>>>       >    forming after the last offer by Wes.
> >>>>       >    And we are insanely territorial. And I will continue to
> >>>> point
> >>>>       it
> >>>>       > out.
> >>>>       >    I don’t appreciate its existence.
> >>>>       >    I almost as a joke was going to ask if I needed
> >>>> permission to
> >>>>       wear
> >>>>       > my
> >>>>       >    Party issued name badge.  Then I stopped and realized
> >>>> that the
> >>>>       > internal
> >>>>       >    senseless politicking has reached Peak Poe’s Law and it is
> >>>>       >    indistinguishable from a parody of itself and it could go
> >>>>       either
> >>>>       > way.
> >>>>       >    I will be.  Lodge objections now.
> >>>>       >    On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:02 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>>       >    <[1][2]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       >      Caryn Ann, people can go to the website and sign-up for
> >>>>       > membership.
> >>>>       >      I
> >>>>       >      have no idea what you mean by "the standard membership
> >>>> pitch"
> >>>>       or
> >>>>       >      standard supplies.  Nor, do I appreciate you using terms
> >>>>       like,
> >>>>       >      "insanely
> >>>>       >      territorial and self-destructive", when I'm saying to
> >>>> you the
> >>>>       same
> >>>>       >      things I'd say to anyone who is running a campaign for a
> >>>>       national
> >>>>       > LP
> >>>>       >      officer position.  We currently have three people
> >>>> running for
> >>>>       > chair,
> >>>>       >      and
> >>>>       >      six or seven running for Vice-Chair, and two that I
> >>>> know of
> >>>>       who
> >>>>       > are
> >>>>       >      running (maybe declared) for secretary. Gosh, at this
> >>>> rate,
> >>>>       more
> >>>>       >      people
> >>>>       >      may jump into the fray.  Are all these people going to be
> >>>>       given
> >>>>       > the
> >>>>       >      same
> >>>>       >      materials?  Some are making trips to a lot of state
> >>>>       conventions.
> >>>>       >      Are those people going to be given the exact same
> >>>> supplies as
> >>>>       you?
> >>>>       >      If
> >>>>       >      the supplies are T-shirts and gifts, then do they all get
> >>>>       those to
> >>>>       >      give
> >>>>       >      to people while they campaign?  What if they're
> >>>> signing-up
> >>>>       > national
> >>>>       >      members?  As it's easier to influence people when they're
> >>>>       being
> >>>>       >      given
> >>>>       >      something.
> >>>>       >      You yourself wrote:   "People sign up twice as much
> >>>> when they
> >>>>       get
> >>>>       >      something in their hands on the spot."  That goes for
> >>>>       campaigning
> >>>>       >      too.
> >>>>       >      I'm still not understanding why you send envelopes to
> >>>> LPHQ
> >>>>       when
> >>>>       >      signing
> >>>>       >      up members.  I've never heard of anyone doing that.
> >>>> People I
> >>>>       know
> >>>>       >      just
> >>>>       >      sign-up someone, and that's that.  We're not keeping
> >>>> track or
> >>>>       >      recording
> >>>>       >      the numbers, as it's not a competition.
> >>>>       >      Turning the tide on membership isn't going to happen with
> >>>>       >      blitz-sign-ups
> >>>>       >      at conventions. Daily I'm seeing people announce that
> >>>> they're
> >>>>       >      leaving
> >>>>       >      the LP.  Some even shared with me information on new
> >>>>       political
> >>>>       > party
> >>>>       >      they're attempting to start. (Former LP members who
> >>>> all just
> >>>>       left
> >>>>       >      the LP
> >>>>       >      this past year) The issue is a systemic one. When I
> >>>> mention
> >>>>       this
> >>>>       >      issue,
> >>>>       >      I get the usual reaction from the usual people. So, I
> >>>> expect
> >>>>       no
> >>>>       >      different this time.
> >>>>       >      If you wish to take up this issue at the April LNC
> >>>> meeting,
> >>>>       then I
> >>>>       >      look
> >>>>       >      forward to the discussion.
> >>>>       >      ---
> >>>>       >      Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>>       >      LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >>>>       >      Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> >>>>       >      Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> >>>>       >      Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> >>>>       >      [2][3]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>       >      On 2018-03-09 00:19, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >>>>       >      > Members are entitled to a free shirt.
> >>>>       >      >    All of us should be doing this and that
> >>>> opportunity is
> >>>>       > equally
> >>>>       >      >    available to all.
> >>>>       >      >    To say that successful recruiters who happen to be
> >>>>       running
> >>>>       >      cannot
> >>>>       >      > use
> >>>>       >      >    the standard membership pitch to me is where we get
> >>>>       insanely
> >>>>       >      >    territorial and self-destructive.
> >>>>       >      >    People sign up twice as much when they get
> >>>> something in
> >>>>       their
> >>>>       >      hands
> >>>>       >      > on
> >>>>       >      >    the spot.
> >>>>       >      >    I will get 100 more members.  If I have to be
> >>>> hobbled by
> >>>>       not
> >>>>       >      even
> >>>>       >      >    having the standard supplies, well - we aren’t
> >>>>       interested in
> >>>>       >      signing
> >>>>       >      > up
> >>>>       >      >    members because we are too concerned over our
> >>>>       internicence
> >>>>       >      >    calculations.  And if that’s the case - I’m not
> >>>> setting
> >>>>       > myself
> >>>>       >      up
> >>>>       >      > for
> >>>>       >      >    failure.  If I’m going to recruit, I’m going to kick
> >>>>       ass.  If
> >>>>       >      I’m
> >>>>       >      > not
> >>>>       >      >    equipped for success then I’m going to put my energy
> >>>>       > elsewhere
> >>>>       >      and
> >>>>       >      > will
> >>>>       >      >    deliver to Wes in April the remainder and will
> >>>> not get
> >>>>       the 20
> >>>>       >      at the
> >>>>       >      > CO
> >>>>       >      >    convention which is my goal.
> >>>>       >      >    I would like the rest of the LNC to weigh in.
> >>>>       >      >    If not please consider this my request for agenda
> >>>> time
> >>>>       in
> >>>>       > April
> >>>>       >      to
> >>>>       >      >    settle this.
> >>>>       >      >    -Caryn Ann
> >>>>       >      >    -Caryn Ann
> >>>>       >      >    On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:54 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>>       >      > <[1][3][4]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
> >>>>       >      >
> >>>>       >      >      Caryn Ann, I think it's great that you do
> >>>> membership
> >>>>       >      recruiting.
> >>>>       >      >      My concern would be if you're personal
> >>>> campaigning and
> >>>>       also
> >>>>       >      using
> >>>>       >      >      membership supplies that are gifts/freebie
> >>>> things to
> >>>>       give
> >>>>       > to
> >>>>       >      >      prospective
> >>>>       >      >      recruits.  (You'd mentioned T-shirts, in a past
> >>>>       > communication
> >>>>       >      on
> >>>>       >      >      this
> >>>>       >      >      subject.)   I'm not sure what membership supplies
> >>>>       you'd
> >>>>       > need,
> >>>>       >      as
> >>>>       >      >      signing
> >>>>       >      >      up members can just be done with a laptop on
> >>>> the spot.
> >>>>       No
> >>>>       >      need for
> >>>>       >      >      supplies.  So, if you're not giving people
> >>>> gifts or
> >>>>       freebie
> >>>>       >      stuff,
> >>>>       >      >      while
> >>>>       >      >      signing-up/campaigning, then I see no issue.
> >>>>       >      >      ---
> >>>>       >      >      Elizabeth Van Horn
> >>>>       >      >      LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
> >>>>       >      >      Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
> >>>>       >      >      Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
> >>>>       >      >      Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
> >>>>       >      >      [2][4][5]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>       >      >      On 2018-03-08 23:34, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
> >>>>       >      >      > Beginning April I will be at a convention nearly
> >>>>       every
> >>>>       >      weekend,
> >>>>       >      >      some of
> >>>>       >      >      >    them I am an invited guest speaker and
> >>>> other are
> >>>>       >      campaign
> >>>>       >      >      trips.
> >>>>       >      >      >    Is there any objection to my continuing my
> >>>>       membership
> >>>>       >      >      recruitment
> >>>>       >      >      >    during these trips (no cost to the Party
> >>>> other
> >>>>       than
> >>>>       > the
> >>>>       >      >      membership
> >>>>       >      >      >    supplies).
> >>>>       >      >      >    --
> >>>>       >      >      >    --
> >>>>       >      >      >    In Liberty,
> >>>>       >      >      >    Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>       >      >      >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
> >>>>       > Committee
> >>>>       >      >      (Alaska,
> >>>>       >      >      >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
> >>>> Montana, Utah,
> >>>>       >      Wyoming,
> >>>>       >      >      > Washington)
> >>>>       >      >      >    - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>       >      >      >    Communications Director, [2]Libertarian
> >>>> Party of
> >>>>       >      Colorado
> >>>>       >      >      >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
> >>>>       >      >      >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >>>>       >      >      >    We defend your rights
> >>>>       >      >      >    And oppose the use of force
> >>>>       >      >      >    Taxation is theft
> >>>>       >      >      >
> >>>>       >      >      > References
> >>>>       >      >      >
> >>>>       >      >      >    1. mailto:[3]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>       >      >      >    2. [4][5][6]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>       >      >
> >>>>       >      >    --
> >>>>       >      >
> >>>>       >      >    --
> >>>>       >      >    In Liberty,
> >>>>       >      >    Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>       >      >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
> >>>> Committee
> >>>>       >      (Alaska,
> >>>>       >      >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
> >>>>       Wyoming,
> >>>>       >      > Washington)
> >>>>       >      >    - [5]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>       >      >    Communications Director, [6]Libertarian Party of
> >>>>       Colorado
> >>>>       >      >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
> >>>>       >      >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >>>>       >      >    We defend your rights
> >>>>       >      >    And oppose the use of force
> >>>>       >      >    Taxation is theft
> >>>>       >      >
> >>>>       >      > References
> >>>>       >      >
> >>>>       >      >    1. mailto:[6][7]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >>>>       >      >    2. [7][8]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>       >      >    3. mailto:[8]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>       >      >    4. [9][9]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>       >      >    5. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>       >      >    6. [11][10]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       >    --
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       >    --
> >>>>       >    In Liberty,
> >>>>       >    Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>       >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
> >>>>       (Alaska,
> >>>>       >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
> >>>>       > Washington)
> >>>>       >    - [12]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>       >    Communications Director, [13]Libertarian Party of Colorado
> >>>>       >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
> >>>>       >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >>>>       >    We defend your rights
> >>>>       >    And oppose the use of force
> >>>>       >    Taxation is theft
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       > References
> >>>>       >
> >>>>       >    1. mailto:[11]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >>>>       >    2. [12]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>       >    3. mailto:[13]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >>>>       >    4. [14]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>       >    5. [15]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>       >    6. mailto:[16]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >>>>       >    7. [17]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>       >    8. mailto:[18]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>       >    9. [19]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>       >   10. mailto:[20]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>       >   11. [21]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>       >   12. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>       >   13. [23]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>
> >>>>     --
> >>>>
> >>>>     --
> >>>>     In Liberty,
> >>>>     Caryn Ann Harlos
> >>>>     Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
> >>>>     Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
> >>>> Washington)
> >>>>     - [24]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>     Communications Director, [25]Libertarian Party of Colorado
> >>>>     Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
> >>>>     A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> >>>>     We defend your rights
> >>>>     And oppose the use of force
> >>>>     Taxation is theft
> >>>>
> >>>> References
> >>>>
> >>>>     1. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >>>>     2. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >>>>     3. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>     4. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >>>>     5. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>     6. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>     7. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >>>>     8. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>     9. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>    10. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>    11. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >>>>    12. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>    13. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >>>>    14. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>    15. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>    16. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
> >>>>    17. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
> >>>>    18. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>    19. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>    20. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>    21. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>    22. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>    23. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>    24. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
> >>>>    25. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
> >>>>
> >>>
>
> --
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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   I’ve always mailed within 5.

   I really like this system here Wes.

   Would you like me to test it for the CO convention?

   On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 3:56 PM Wes Benedict <[1]wes.benedict at lp.org>
   wrote:

     Good catch. 2018-03-10 V1.1 attached. Includes Tim's update.
     Wes Benedict, Executive Director
     Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
     (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [2]wes.benedict at lp.org
     [3]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
     Join the Libertarian Party at: [4]http://lp.org/membership
     On 3/10/2018 5:51 PM, Tim Hagan wrote:
     > The completed forms plus funds need to be mailed no later than ten
     > days, not 14 days, after receiving them.
     >
     > According to federal regulations (11 CFR 102.8(b)(2)): "Every
     person
     > who receives a contribution in excess of $50 for a political
     committee
     > which is not an authorized committee shall, no later than 10 days
     > after receipt of the contribution, forward to the treasurer of the
     > political committee: The contribution; the name and address of the
     > contributor; and the date of receipt of the contribution. If the
     > amount of the contribution is in excess of $200, such person shall
     > forward the contribution, the identification of the contributor in
     > accordance with 11 CFR 100.12, and the date of receipt of the
     > contribution. Date of receipt shall be the date such person
     obtains
     > possession of the contribution. "
     >
     > ---
     > Tim Hagan
     > Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
     >
     > On 2018-03-10 12:42, Wes Benedict wrote:
     >> In a separate note, Steve Scheetz kindly offered to participate
     in
     >> this program. I'm replying to this particular note instead of
     his, in
     >> order to keep some of my historical notes on this topic easier to
     >> find.
     >>
     >> Attached is a draft of the plan in a bit more formal format for
     >> feedback. Steve and others, take a look and let me know what you
     >> think.
     >>
     >> I'll see what feedback you all have, think it over a bit, and
     then
     >> later decide next steps if any.
     >>
     >> Thanks,
     >>
     >> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
     >> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     >> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
     >> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [5]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >> [6]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
     >> Join the Libertarian Party at: [7]http://lp.org/membership
     >>
     >> On 3/9/2018 9:42 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
     >>> The Libertarian Party has been offering T-shirts and other
     things as
     >>> membership promotions for a long time.
     >>>
     >>> For example:
     >>>
     >>> [8]https://www.lp.org/join11/
     >>> [9]https://www.lp.org/join10/
     >>> [10]https://www.lp.org/join9/
     >>>
     >>> If I remember correctly Caryn Ann started out recruiting members
     at
     >>> state conventions without offering anything in return. As she
     did
     >>> that work, members who had seen T-shirt offerings various places
     >>> online would start to ask Caryn Ann "can I get a shirt since I
     joined."
     >>>
     >>> Our standard response to those who ask has been "yes we'll give
     you
     >>> a shirt. What size do you wear?" and we ship them a shirt (polos
     >>> excluded because they are higher cost").
     >>>
     >>> As a result of Caryn Ann recruiting so many members and members
     >>> asking for shirts, quite some time ago I decided to provide a
     small
     >>> supply of shirts to Caryn Ann to use when promoting memberships.
     >>>
     >>> If any other LNC members want to help recruit memberships, let
     me
     >>> know, and I'll send you a small supply of these two shirts:
     >>> [11]https://lpstore.org/product/long-sleeve-black-t-shirt/
     >>> [12]https://lpstore.org/product/im-with-her-t-shirt/
     >>>
     >>> These shirts are to be used for membership recruitment purposes.
     Any
     >>> you don't use should be returned to me in the future.
     >>>
     >>> Thanks,
     >>>
     >>>
     >>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
     >>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
     >>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
     >>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [13]wes.benedict at lp.org
     >>> [14]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
     >>> Join the Libertarian Party at: [15]http://lp.org/membership
     >>>
     >>> On 3/9/2018 8:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
     >>>>     There is no service.  Conversely in fact.
     >>>>
     >>>>     (and btw though not applicable it is an either/or in that
     >>>> statement)
     >>>>
     >>>>     On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:55 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
     >>>>     <[1][16]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
     >>>>
     >>>>       Caryn Ann, you're running for a national officer
     position.
     >>>> From the
     >>>>       LNC
     >>>>       Policy Manual page 46:
     >>>>       ------
     >>>>       "6) Limitations on Party Support for Party Office
     >>>>       Party resources shall not be used to provide information
     or
     >>>> services
     >>>>       for
     >>>>       any candidate for party
     >>>>       office unless:
     >>>>       • such information or services are available and
     announced on an
     >>>>       equal
     >>>>       basis to all
     >>>>       Libertarians who have declared they are seeking that
     office, or
     >>>>       • such information or services are generally available
     and
     >>>> announced
     >>>>       to
     >>>>       all party
     >>>>       members."
     >>>>       -----
     >>>>       The above language isn't "either/or", which would
     indicate
     >>>> only one
     >>>>       condition applies. Both conditions apply.
     >>>>       ---
     >>>>       Elizabeth Van Horn
     >>>>       On 2018-03-09 01:56, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
     >>>>       > I say let’s get everyone who wants to recruiting.  I
     don’t
     >>>> see a
     >>>>       line
     >>>>       >    forming after the last offer by Wes.
     >>>>       >    And we are insanely territorial. And I will continue
     to
     >>>> point
     >>>>       it
     >>>>       > out.
     >>>>       >    I don’t appreciate its existence.
     >>>>       >    I almost as a joke was going to ask if I needed
     >>>> permission to
     >>>>       wear
     >>>>       > my
     >>>>       >    Party issued name badge.  Then I stopped and
     realized
     >>>> that the
     >>>>       > internal
     >>>>       >    senseless politicking has reached Peak Poe’s Law and
     it is
     >>>>       >    indistinguishable from a parody of itself and it
     could go
     >>>>       either
     >>>>       > way.
     >>>>       >    I will be.  Lodge objections now.
     >>>>       >    On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:02 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
     >>>>       >    <[1][2][17]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
     >>>>       >
     >>>>       >      Caryn Ann, people can go to the website and
     sign-up for
     >>>>       > membership.
     >>>>       >      I
     >>>>       >      have no idea what you mean by "the standard
     membership
     >>>> pitch"
     >>>>       or
     >>>>       >      standard supplies.  Nor, do I appreciate you using
     terms
     >>>>       like,
     >>>>       >      "insanely
     >>>>       >      territorial and self-destructive", when I'm saying
     to
     >>>> you the
     >>>>       same
     >>>>       >      things I'd say to anyone who is running a campaign
     for a
     >>>>       national
     >>>>       > LP
     >>>>       >      officer position.  We currently have three people
     >>>> running for
     >>>>       > chair,
     >>>>       >      and
     >>>>       >      six or seven running for Vice-Chair, and two that
     I
     >>>> know of
     >>>>       who
     >>>>       > are
     >>>>       >      running (maybe declared) for secretary. Gosh, at
     this
     >>>> rate,
     >>>>       more
     >>>>       >      people
     >>>>       >      may jump into the fray.  Are all these people
     going to be
     >>>>       given
     >>>>       > the
     >>>>       >      same
     >>>>       >      materials?  Some are making trips to a lot of
     state
     >>>>       conventions.
     >>>>       >      Are those people going to be given the exact same
     >>>> supplies as
     >>>>       you?
     >>>>       >      If
     >>>>       >      the supplies are T-shirts and gifts, then do they
     all get
     >>>>       those to
     >>>>       >      give
     >>>>       >      to people while they campaign?  What if they're
     >>>> signing-up
     >>>>       > national
     >>>>       >      members?  As it's easier to influence people when
     they're
     >>>>       being
     >>>>       >      given
     >>>>       >      something.
     >>>>       >      You yourself wrote:   "People sign up twice as
     much
     >>>> when they
     >>>>       get
     >>>>       >      something in their hands on the spot."  That goes
     for
     >>>>       campaigning
     >>>>       >      too.
     >>>>       >      I'm still not understanding why you send envelopes
     to
     >>>> LPHQ
     >>>>       when
     >>>>       >      signing
     >>>>       >      up members.  I've never heard of anyone doing
     that.
     >>>> People I
     >>>>       know
     >>>>       >      just
     >>>>       >      sign-up someone, and that's that.  We're not
     keeping
     >>>> track or
     >>>>       >      recording
     >>>>       >      the numbers, as it's not a competition.
     >>>>       >      Turning the tide on membership isn't going to
     happen with
     >>>>       >      blitz-sign-ups
     >>>>       >      at conventions. Daily I'm seeing people announce
     that
     >>>> they're
     >>>>       >      leaving
     >>>>       >      the LP.  Some even shared with me information on
     new
     >>>>       political
     >>>>       > party
     >>>>       >      they're attempting to start. (Former LP members
     who
     >>>> all just
     >>>>       left
     >>>>       >      the LP
     >>>>       >      this past year) The issue is a systemic one. When
     I
     >>>> mention
     >>>>       this
     >>>>       >      issue,
     >>>>       >      I get the usual reaction from the usual people.
     So, I
     >>>> expect
     >>>>       no
     >>>>       >      different this time.
     >>>>       >      If you wish to take up this issue at the April LNC
     >>>> meeting,
     >>>>       then I
     >>>>       >      look
     >>>>       >      forward to the discussion.
     >>>>       >      ---
     >>>>       >      Elizabeth Van Horn
     >>>>       >      LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
     >>>>       >      Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
     >>>>       >      Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
     >>>>       >      Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
     >>>>       >      [2][3][18]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>       >      On 2018-03-09 00:19, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
     >>>>       >      > Members are entitled to a free shirt.
     >>>>       >      >    All of us should be doing this and that
     >>>> opportunity is
     >>>>       > equally
     >>>>       >      >    available to all.
     >>>>       >      >    To say that successful recruiters who happen
     to be
     >>>>       running
     >>>>       >      cannot
     >>>>       >      > use
     >>>>       >      >    the standard membership pitch to me is where
     we get
     >>>>       insanely
     >>>>       >      >    territorial and self-destructive.
     >>>>       >      >    People sign up twice as much when they get
     >>>> something in
     >>>>       their
     >>>>       >      hands
     >>>>       >      > on
     >>>>       >      >    the spot.
     >>>>       >      >    I will get 100 more members.  If I have to be
     >>>> hobbled by
     >>>>       not
     >>>>       >      even
     >>>>       >      >    having the standard supplies, well - we
     aren’t
     >>>>       interested in
     >>>>       >      signing
     >>>>       >      > up
     >>>>       >      >    members because we are too concerned over our
     >>>>       internicence
     >>>>       >      >    calculations.  And if that’s the case - I’m
     not
     >>>> setting
     >>>>       > myself
     >>>>       >      up
     >>>>       >      > for
     >>>>       >      >    failure.  If I’m going to recruit, I’m going
     to kick
     >>>>       ass.  If
     >>>>       >      I’m
     >>>>       >      > not
     >>>>       >      >    equipped for success then I’m going to put my
     energy
     >>>>       > elsewhere
     >>>>       >      and
     >>>>       >      > will
     >>>>       >      >    deliver to Wes in April the remainder and
     will
     >>>> not get
     >>>>       the 20
     >>>>       >      at the
     >>>>       >      > CO
     >>>>       >      >    convention which is my goal.
     >>>>       >      >    I would like the rest of the LNC to weigh in.
     >>>>       >      >    If not please consider this my request for
     agenda
     >>>> time
     >>>>       in
     >>>>       > April
     >>>>       >      to
     >>>>       >      >    settle this.
     >>>>       >      >    -Caryn Ann
     >>>>       >      >    -Caryn Ann
     >>>>       >      >    On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:54 PM Elizabeth Van
     Horn
     >>>>       >      > <[1][3][4][19]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
     >>>>       >      >
     >>>>       >      >      Caryn Ann, I think it's great that you do
     >>>> membership
     >>>>       >      recruiting.
     >>>>       >      >      My concern would be if you're personal
     >>>> campaigning and
     >>>>       also
     >>>>       >      using
     >>>>       >      >      membership supplies that are gifts/freebie
     >>>> things to
     >>>>       give
     >>>>       > to
     >>>>       >      >      prospective
     >>>>       >      >      recruits.  (You'd mentioned T-shirts, in a
     past
     >>>>       > communication
     >>>>       >      on
     >>>>       >      >      this
     >>>>       >      >      subject.)   I'm not sure what membership
     supplies
     >>>>       you'd
     >>>>       > need,
     >>>>       >      as
     >>>>       >      >      signing
     >>>>       >      >      up members can just be done with a laptop
     on
     >>>> the spot.
     >>>>       No
     >>>>       >      need for
     >>>>       >      >      supplies.  So, if you're not giving people
     >>>> gifts or
     >>>>       freebie
     >>>>       >      stuff,
     >>>>       >      >      while
     >>>>       >      >      signing-up/campaigning, then I see no
     issue.
     >>>>       >      >      ---
     >>>>       >      >      Elizabeth Van Horn
     >>>>       >      >      LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
     >>>>       >      >      Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co,
     Indiana
     >>>>       >      >      Chair-LP Social Media Process Review
     Committee
     >>>>       >      >      Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
     >>>>       >      >      [2][4][5][20]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>       >      >      On 2018-03-08 23:34, Caryn Ann Harlos
     wrote:
     >>>>       >      >      > Beginning April I will be at a convention
     nearly
     >>>>       every
     >>>>       >      weekend,
     >>>>       >      >      some of
     >>>>       >      >      >    them I am an invited guest speaker and
     >>>> other are
     >>>>       >      campaign
     >>>>       >      >      trips.
     >>>>       >      >      >    Is there any objection to my
     continuing my
     >>>>       membership
     >>>>       >      >      recruitment
     >>>>       >      >      >    during these trips (no cost to the
     Party
     >>>> other
     >>>>       than
     >>>>       > the
     >>>>       >      >      membership
     >>>>       >      >      >    supplies).
     >>>>       >      >      >    --
     >>>>       >      >      >    --
     >>>>       >      >      >    In Liberty,
     >>>>       >      >      >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >>>>       >      >      >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian
     National
     >>>>       > Committee
     >>>>       >      >      (Alaska,
     >>>>       >      >      >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas,
     >>>> Montana, Utah,
     >>>>       >      Wyoming,
     >>>>       >      >      > Washington)
     >>>>       >      >      >    - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>       >      >      >    Communications Director,
     [2]Libertarian
     >>>> Party of
     >>>>       >      Colorado
     >>>>       >      >      >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation
     Committee
     >>>>       >      >      >    A haiku to the Statement of
     Principles:
     >>>>       >      >      >    We defend your rights
     >>>>       >      >      >    And oppose the use of force
     >>>>       >      >      >    Taxation is theft
     >>>>       >      >      >
     >>>>       >      >      > References
     >>>>       >      >      >
     >>>>       >      >      >    1. mailto:[3]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>       >      >      >    2.
     [4][5][6][21]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>       >      >
     >>>>       >      >    --
     >>>>       >      >
     >>>>       >      >    --
     >>>>       >      >    In Liberty,
     >>>>       >      >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >>>>       >      >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
     >>>> Committee
     >>>>       >      (Alaska,
     >>>>       >      >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana,
     Utah,
     >>>>       Wyoming,
     >>>>       >      > Washington)
     >>>>       >      >    - [5]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>       >      >    Communications Director, [6]Libertarian Party
     of
     >>>>       Colorado
     >>>>       >      >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
     >>>>       >      >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >>>>       >      >    We defend your rights
     >>>>       >      >    And oppose the use of force
     >>>>       >      >    Taxation is theft
     >>>>       >      >
     >>>>       >      > References
     >>>>       >      >
     >>>>       >      >    1. mailto:[6][7][22]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >>>>       >      >    2. [7][8][23]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>       >      >    3. mailto:[8]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>       >      >    4. [9][9][24]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>       >      >    5. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>       >      >    6. [11][10][25]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>       >
     >>>>       >    --
     >>>>       >
     >>>>       >    --
     >>>>       >    In Liberty,
     >>>>       >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >>>>       >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
     Committee
     >>>>       (Alaska,
     >>>>       >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
     Wyoming,
     >>>>       > Washington)
     >>>>       >    - [12]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>       >    Communications Director, [13]Libertarian Party of
     Colorado
     >>>>       >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
     >>>>       >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >>>>       >    We defend your rights
     >>>>       >    And oppose the use of force
     >>>>       >    Taxation is theft
     >>>>       >
     >>>>       > References
     >>>>       >
     >>>>       >    1. mailto:[11][26]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >>>>       >    2. [12][27]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>       >    3. mailto:[13][28]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >>>>       >    4. [14][29]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>       >    5. [15][30]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>       >    6. mailto:[16][31]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >>>>       >    7. [17][32]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>       >    8. mailto:[18]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>       >    9. [19][33]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>       >   10. mailto:[20]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>       >   11. [21][34]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>       >   12. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>       >   13. [23][35]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>
     >>>>     --
     >>>>
     >>>>     --
     >>>>     In Liberty,
     >>>>     Caryn Ann Harlos
     >>>>     Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
     (Alaska,
     >>>>     Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
     >>>> Washington)
     >>>>     - [24]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>     Communications Director, [25]Libertarian Party of Colorado
     >>>>     Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
     >>>>     A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >>>>     We defend your rights
     >>>>     And oppose the use of force
     >>>>     Taxation is theft
     >>>>
     >>>> References
     >>>>
     >>>>     1. mailto:[36]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >>>>     2. mailto:[37]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >>>>     3. [38]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>     4. mailto:[39]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >>>>     5. [40]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>     6. [41]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>     7. mailto:[42]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >>>>     8. [43]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>     9. [44]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>    10. [45]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>    11. mailto:[46]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >>>>    12. [47]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>    13. mailto:[48]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >>>>    14. [49]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>    15. [50]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>    16. mailto:[51]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
     >>>>    17. [52]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
     >>>>    18. mailto:[53]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>    19. [54]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>    20. mailto:[55]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>    21. [56]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>    22. mailto:[57]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>    23. [58]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>    24. mailto:[59]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >>>>    25. [60]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >>>>
     >>>

   --

   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [61]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [62]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
   2. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
   3. http://facebook.com/libertarians
   4. http://lp.org/membership
   5. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
   6. http://facebook.com/libertarians
   7. http://lp.org/membership
   8. https://www.lp.org/join11/
   9. https://www.lp.org/join10/
  10. https://www.lp.org/join9/
  11. https://lpstore.org/product/long-sleeve-black-t-shirt/
  12. https://lpstore.org/product/im-with-her-t-shirt/
  13. mailto:wes.benedict at lp.org
  14. http://facebook.com/libertarians
  15. http://lp.org/membership
  16. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  17. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  18. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
  19. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  20. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
  21. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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  25. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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  30. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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  32. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
  33. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  34. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  35. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  36. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  37. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  38. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
  39. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  40. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
  41. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  42. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  43. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
  44. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  45. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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  47. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
  48. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  49. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
  50. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  51. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
  52. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
  53. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  54. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  55. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  56. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  57. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  58. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
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  61. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
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