[Lnc-business] Membership Recruitment

Elizabeth Van Horn elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
Mon Mar 12 14:34:45 EDT 2018


Oh my.  You're trying to shame people for *not* donating beyond the 
required annual membership amount, and are also trying to play like 
you're the victim?!

There's nothing wrong with what I wrote, and there's no reason for me to 
not say it publicly.  Why would I hide the fact that I only give the 
annual national membership amount of $25?  Nor, that it's all I plan to 
donate to the LP national in a given year?  I don't track the amount of 
hours spent on my county, state, or national volunteer efforts.  Nor, 
the amount of out-of pocket expenses I part with in support of 
candidates.  If you're unable to understand that there are people who 
things for the sake of doing, and not public accolade seeking, then I 
can't begin to explain it to you.



---
Elizabeth Van Horn


On 2018-03-12 14:06, Daniel Hayes wrote:
> Do you think the organization runs for free? It takes money. I am sure
> our underpaid and overworked staff love to hear a board member say
> those things .
> 
> Do you want my LP time sheet too?  It’s 50-80 hours every week. That’s 
> not FB.
> 
> Frankly, when a board member publicly says they are only giving the
> minimum and not a penny more, that starts sounding like a breech of a
> fiduciary responsibility.  It’s one thing to do and another thing to
> say publicly.  I realize we have some members of the board in school
> and going through other struggles.
> 
> Here is a reality.  I do my best to make sure that I am revenue
> neutral.  I pay my way.  I get that we have a lot of members that have
> a lot of good to say and do.  THAT is why I give till it hurts and
> then I give some more to make it more accessible to others.
> 
> Most organizations have give or gets for their board. For us it’s
> entirely voluntary. That’s extra.
> 
> And our board IS pay to play. It’s $25.  If paying to play is against
> your morals.. ooops!  It’s not against mine.  It’s just against my
> ethics to do the minimum.
> 
> It’s funny to be part of an organization that tries to shame people
> for being generous.
> 
> 
> Daniel Hayes
> LNC At Large Member
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 11:41 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn 
>> <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Well, Daniel I've heard you tell about the amounts you give to the LP 
>> numerous times on social media, so not sure why you also want to tell 
>> it here, but perhaps you like to talk about it?
>> 
>> I'm not sure why people want to publicly talking about their giving, 
>> but I'm sure there's a reason.
>> 
>> Is the T.E.A.M a pay-to-play one? You don't like that phrase?  Then 
>> don't advocate for that set-up.
>> 
>> You do think that you giving money makes the cause of liberty work 
>> that we ALL do, more important?  (You wrote:  "This is important to 
>> me.")
>> 
>> If the efforts of libertarians or LP members, are being judged by how 
>> much money they contribute, then we're in trouble.
>> 
>> ---
>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2018-03-12 12:04, Daniel Hayes wrote:
>>> I am so I sick and tired of people from a region, where THIS 
>>> committee
>>> dropped HUNDREDS of thousands of dollars for ballot access, 
>>> advocating
>>> for people to give the bare minimum to the LNC.
>>> It would be NICE if people started acting like a T.E.A.M.  Stop 
>>> trying
>>> to play GOTCHA. Stop being against something because you don’t like
>>> the person doing or advocating something.
>>> I am so annoyed with people not wanting to GIVE more than the minimum
>>> but wanting to manage what the others what others have given.
>>> I am SICK and tired of people saying “pay to play”.  Are things free? 
>>> TANSTAAFL.
>>> I consider it investing in something important to me.  I am not rich.
>>> I consider it my duty to give more than the minimum to boards on 
>>> which
>>> I serve.  I find it makes it really easy for me to ask other people
>>> for money.  I give somewhere around 5% of my gross income to the LNC.
>>> Throw in my state and local and candidate donations and all my costs
>>> and it goes above 25% or more.  This is important to me. People are
>>> dying. And we are fighting over freaking T shirts. Give me a break.
>>> Daniel Hayes
>>> LNC At Large
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> On Mar 12, 2018, at 9:01 AM, Elizabeth Van Horn 
>>>> <elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>> I wonder how many people will actually read the attached pdf.
>>>> A little clause in the document:  "...but at no time will the value 
>>>> of the inventory of shirts I’ve been provided be greater than the 
>>>> monetary donations I’ve contributed to the Libertarian National 
>>>> Committee in the prior twelve months..."
>>>> This would make it so LNC members who aren't donating money to LP 
>>>> national, won't be part of the T-shirts-used-as-gifts to recruited 
>>>> members campaign.  Even at cost, of $12 per shirt, an annual LP 
>>>> national membership would only allow two T-shirts.  Hardly worth the 
>>>> trouble, eh?
>>>> I loathe set-ups which clearly favor one (or multiple individual(s) 
>>>> over others, and that's what this is.  A pay-to-play set-up.
>>>> My donations, if I choose to do any, will be to LP political 
>>>> campaigns, not LP national.  Nor, will I be paying national 
>>>> membership dues any sooner than annual, or any more than the least 
>>>> amount, for an annual membership. That is my choice for how I handle 
>>>> my money.
>>>> So, I know that the T-shirts as-gifts for recruiting new members 
>>>> isn't intended for everyone.
>>>> ---
>>>> Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>>> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>>>> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>> http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>> On 2018-03-10 15:42, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>>>> In a separate note, Steve Scheetz kindly offered to participate in
>>>>> this program. I'm replying to this particular note instead of his, 
>>>>> in
>>>>> order to keep some of my historical notes on this topic easier to
>>>>> find.
>>>>> Attached is a draft of the plan in a bit more formal format for
>>>>> feedback. Steve and others, take a look and let me know what you
>>>>> think.
>>>>> I'll see what feedback you all have, think it over a bit, and then
>>>>> later decide next steps if any.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>>>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>> On 3/9/2018 9:42 AM, Wes Benedict wrote:
>>>>>> The Libertarian Party has been offering T-shirts and other things 
>>>>>> as membership promotions for a long time.
>>>>>> For example:
>>>>>> https://www.lp.org/join11/
>>>>>> https://www.lp.org/join10/
>>>>>> https://www.lp.org/join9/
>>>>>> If I remember correctly Caryn Ann started out recruiting members 
>>>>>> at state conventions without offering anything in return. As she 
>>>>>> did that work, members who had seen T-shirt offerings various 
>>>>>> places online would start to ask Caryn Ann "can I get a shirt 
>>>>>> since I joined."
>>>>>> Our standard response to those who ask has been "yes we'll give 
>>>>>> you a shirt. What size do you wear?" and we ship them a shirt 
>>>>>> (polos excluded because they are higher cost").
>>>>>> As a result of Caryn Ann recruiting so many members and members 
>>>>>> asking for shirts, quite some time ago I decided to provide a 
>>>>>> small supply of shirts to Caryn Ann to use when promoting 
>>>>>> memberships.
>>>>>> If any other LNC members want to help recruit memberships, let me 
>>>>>> know, and I'll send you a small supply of these two shirts:
>>>>>> https://lpstore.org/product/long-sleeve-black-t-shirt/
>>>>>> https://lpstore.org/product/im-with-her-t-shirt/
>>>>>> These shirts are to be used for membership recruitment purposes. 
>>>>>> Any you don't use should be returned to me in the future.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>>>>>> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>>>>>> 1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>>>>>> (202) 333-0008 ext. 232, wes.benedict at lp.org
>>>>>> facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>>>>>> Join the Libertarian Party at: http://lp.org/membership
>>>>>>> On 3/9/2018 8:56 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>>>    There is no service.  Conversely in fact.
>>>>>>>    (and btw though not applicable it is an either/or in that 
>>>>>>> statement)
>>>>>>>    On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 5:55 AM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>>    <[1]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>      Caryn Ann, you're running for a national officer position.  
>>>>>>> From the
>>>>>>>      LNC
>>>>>>>      Policy Manual page 46:
>>>>>>>      ------
>>>>>>>      "6) Limitations on Party Support for Party Office
>>>>>>>      Party resources shall not be used to provide information or 
>>>>>>> services
>>>>>>>      for
>>>>>>>      any candidate for party
>>>>>>>      office unless:
>>>>>>>      • such information or services are available and announced 
>>>>>>> on an
>>>>>>>      equal
>>>>>>>      basis to all
>>>>>>>      Libertarians who have declared they are seeking that office, 
>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>      • such information or services are generally available and 
>>>>>>> announced
>>>>>>>      to
>>>>>>>      all party
>>>>>>>      members."
>>>>>>>      -----
>>>>>>>      The above language isn't "either/or", which would indicate 
>>>>>>> only one
>>>>>>>      condition applies. Both conditions apply.
>>>>>>>      ---
>>>>>>>      Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>>      On 2018-03-09 01:56, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>>>      > I say let’s get everyone who wants to recruiting.  I don’t 
>>>>>>> see a
>>>>>>>      line
>>>>>>>      >    forming after the last offer by Wes.
>>>>>>>      >    And we are insanely territorial. And I will continue to 
>>>>>>> point
>>>>>>>      it
>>>>>>>      > out.
>>>>>>>      >    I don’t appreciate its existence.
>>>>>>>      >    I almost as a joke was going to ask if I needed 
>>>>>>> permission to
>>>>>>>      wear
>>>>>>>      > my
>>>>>>>      >    Party issued name badge.  Then I stopped and realized 
>>>>>>> that the
>>>>>>>      > internal
>>>>>>>      >    senseless politicking has reached Peak Poe’s Law and it 
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>      >    indistinguishable from a parody of itself and it could 
>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>      either
>>>>>>>      > way.
>>>>>>>      >    I will be.  Lodge objections now.
>>>>>>>      >    On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:02 PM Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>>      >    <[1][2]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      >      Caryn Ann, people can go to the website and sign-up 
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>      > membership.
>>>>>>>      >      I
>>>>>>>      >      have no idea what you mean by "the standard 
>>>>>>> membership pitch"
>>>>>>>      or
>>>>>>>      >      standard supplies.  Nor, do I appreciate you using 
>>>>>>> terms
>>>>>>>      like,
>>>>>>>      >      "insanely
>>>>>>>      >      territorial and self-destructive", when I'm saying to 
>>>>>>> you the
>>>>>>>      same
>>>>>>>      >      things I'd say to anyone who is running a campaign 
>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>      national
>>>>>>>      > LP
>>>>>>>      >      officer position.  We currently have three people 
>>>>>>> running for
>>>>>>>      > chair,
>>>>>>>      >      and
>>>>>>>      >      six or seven running for Vice-Chair, and two that I 
>>>>>>> know of
>>>>>>>      who
>>>>>>>      > are
>>>>>>>      >      running (maybe declared) for secretary.  Gosh, at 
>>>>>>> this rate,
>>>>>>>      more
>>>>>>>      >      people
>>>>>>>      >      may jump into the fray.  Are all these people going 
>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>      given
>>>>>>>      > the
>>>>>>>      >      same
>>>>>>>      >      materials?  Some are making trips to a lot of state
>>>>>>>      conventions.
>>>>>>>      >      Are those people going to be given the exact same 
>>>>>>> supplies as
>>>>>>>      you?
>>>>>>>      >      If
>>>>>>>      >      the supplies are T-shirts and gifts, then do they all 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>      those to
>>>>>>>      >      give
>>>>>>>      >      to people while they campaign?  What if they're 
>>>>>>> signing-up
>>>>>>>      > national
>>>>>>>      >      members?  As it's easier to influence people when 
>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>      being
>>>>>>>      >      given
>>>>>>>      >      something.
>>>>>>>      >      You yourself wrote:   "People sign up twice as much 
>>>>>>> when they
>>>>>>>      get
>>>>>>>      >      something in their hands on the spot."  That goes for
>>>>>>>      campaigning
>>>>>>>      >      too.
>>>>>>>      >      I'm still not understanding why you send envelopes to 
>>>>>>> LPHQ
>>>>>>>      when
>>>>>>>      >      signing
>>>>>>>      >      up members.  I've never heard of anyone doing that.  
>>>>>>> People I
>>>>>>>      know
>>>>>>>      >      just
>>>>>>>      >      sign-up someone, and that's that.  We're not keeping 
>>>>>>> track or
>>>>>>>      >      recording
>>>>>>>      >      the numbers, as it's not a competition.
>>>>>>>      >      Turning the tide on membership isn't going to happen 
>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>      >      blitz-sign-ups
>>>>>>>      >      at conventions. Daily I'm seeing people announce that 
>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>      >      leaving
>>>>>>>      >      the LP.  Some even shared with me information on new
>>>>>>>      political
>>>>>>>      > party
>>>>>>>      >      they're attempting to start. (Former LP members who 
>>>>>>> all just
>>>>>>>      left
>>>>>>>      >      the LP
>>>>>>>      >      this past year) The issue is a systemic one. When I 
>>>>>>> mention
>>>>>>>      this
>>>>>>>      >      issue,
>>>>>>>      >      I get the usual reaction from the usual people. So, I 
>>>>>>> expect
>>>>>>>      no
>>>>>>>      >      different this time.
>>>>>>>      >      If you wish to take up this issue at the April LNC 
>>>>>>> meeting,
>>>>>>>      then I
>>>>>>>      >      look
>>>>>>>      >      forward to the discussion.
>>>>>>>      >      ---
>>>>>>>      >      Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>>      >      LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>>>>>      >      Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>>>>>>>      >      Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>>>>>>>      >      Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>>>>>      >      [2][3]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>      >      On 2018-03-09 00:19, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>>>      >      > Members are entitled to a free shirt.
>>>>>>>      >      >    All of us should be doing this and that 
>>>>>>> opportunity is
>>>>>>>      > equally
>>>>>>>      >      >    available to all.
>>>>>>>      >      >    To say that successful recruiters who happen to 
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>      running
>>>>>>>      >      cannot
>>>>>>>      >      > use
>>>>>>>      >      >    the standard membership pitch to me is where we 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>      insanely
>>>>>>>      >      >    territorial and self-destructive.
>>>>>>>      >      >    People sign up twice as much when they get 
>>>>>>> something in
>>>>>>>      their
>>>>>>>      >      hands
>>>>>>>      >      > on
>>>>>>>      >      >    the spot.
>>>>>>>      >      >    I will get 100 more members.  If I have to be 
>>>>>>> hobbled by
>>>>>>>      not
>>>>>>>      >      even
>>>>>>>      >      >    having the standard supplies, well - we aren’t
>>>>>>>      interested in
>>>>>>>      >      signing
>>>>>>>      >      > up
>>>>>>>      >      >    members because we are too concerned over our
>>>>>>>      internicence
>>>>>>>      >      >    calculations.  And if that’s the case - I’m not 
>>>>>>> setting
>>>>>>>      > myself
>>>>>>>      >      up
>>>>>>>      >      > for
>>>>>>>      >      >    failure.  If I’m going to recruit, I’m going to 
>>>>>>> kick
>>>>>>>      ass.  If
>>>>>>>      >      I’m
>>>>>>>      >      > not
>>>>>>>      >      >    equipped for success then I’m going to put my 
>>>>>>> energy
>>>>>>>      > elsewhere
>>>>>>>      >      and
>>>>>>>      >      > will
>>>>>>>      >      >    deliver to Wes in April the remainder and will 
>>>>>>> not get
>>>>>>>      the 20
>>>>>>>      >      at the
>>>>>>>      >      > CO
>>>>>>>      >      >    convention which is my goal.
>>>>>>>      >      >    I would like the rest of the LNC to weigh in.
>>>>>>>      >      >    If not please consider this my request for 
>>>>>>> agenda time
>>>>>>>      in
>>>>>>>      > April
>>>>>>>      >      to
>>>>>>>      >      >    settle this.
>>>>>>>      >      >    -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>      >      >    -Caryn Ann
>>>>>>>      >      >    On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 9:54 PM Elizabeth Van 
>>>>>>> Horn
>>>>>>>      >      > <[1][3][4]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>      >      >
>>>>>>>      >      >      Caryn Ann, I think it's great that you do 
>>>>>>> membership
>>>>>>>      >      recruiting.
>>>>>>>      >      >      My concern would be if you're personal 
>>>>>>> campaigning and
>>>>>>>      also
>>>>>>>      >      using
>>>>>>>      >      >      membership supplies that are gifts/freebie 
>>>>>>> things to
>>>>>>>      give
>>>>>>>      > to
>>>>>>>      >      >      prospective
>>>>>>>      >      >      recruits.  (You'd mentioned T-shirts, in a 
>>>>>>> past
>>>>>>>      > communication
>>>>>>>      >      on
>>>>>>>      >      >      this
>>>>>>>      >      >      subject.)   I'm not sure what membership 
>>>>>>> supplies
>>>>>>>      you'd
>>>>>>>      > need,
>>>>>>>      >      as
>>>>>>>      >      >      signing
>>>>>>>      >      >      up members can just be done with a laptop on 
>>>>>>> the spot.
>>>>>>>      No
>>>>>>>      >      need for
>>>>>>>      >      >      supplies.  So, if you're not giving people 
>>>>>>> gifts or
>>>>>>>      freebie
>>>>>>>      >      stuff,
>>>>>>>      >      >      while
>>>>>>>      >      >      signing-up/campaigning, then I see no issue.
>>>>>>>      >      >      ---
>>>>>>>      >      >      Elizabeth Van Horn
>>>>>>>      >      >      LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>>>>>>>      >      >      Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, 
>>>>>>> Indiana
>>>>>>>      >      >      Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>>>>>>>      >      >      Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>>>>>>>      >      >      [2][4][5]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>      >      >      On 2018-03-08 23:34, Caryn Ann Harlos wrote:
>>>>>>>      >      >      > Beginning April I will be at a convention 
>>>>>>> nearly
>>>>>>>      every
>>>>>>>      >      weekend,
>>>>>>>      >      >      some of
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    them I am an invited guest speaker and 
>>>>>>> other are
>>>>>>>      >      campaign
>>>>>>>      >      >      trips.
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    Is there any objection to my continuing 
>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>      membership
>>>>>>>      >      >      recruitment
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    during these trips (no cost to the Party 
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>      than
>>>>>>>      > the
>>>>>>>      >      >      membership
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    supplies).
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    --
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    --
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    In Liberty,
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian 
>>>>>>> National
>>>>>>>      > Committee
>>>>>>>      >      >      (Alaska,
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, 
>>>>>>> Montana, Utah,
>>>>>>>      >      Wyoming,
>>>>>>>      >      >      > Washington)
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    Communications Director, [2]Libertarian 
>>>>>>> Party of
>>>>>>>      >      Colorado
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation 
>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    We defend your rights
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>      >      >      >
>>>>>>>      >      >      > References
>>>>>>>      >      >      >
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    1. mailto:[3]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>      >      >      >    2. [4][5][6]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>      >      >
>>>>>>>      >      >    --
>>>>>>>      >      >
>>>>>>>      >      >    --
>>>>>>>      >      >    In Liberty,
>>>>>>>      >      >    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>      >      >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National 
>>>>>>> Committee
>>>>>>>      >      (Alaska,
>>>>>>>      >      >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, 
>>>>>>> Utah,
>>>>>>>      Wyoming,
>>>>>>>      >      > Washington)
>>>>>>>      >      >    - [5]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>      >      >    Communications Director, [6]Libertarian Party of
>>>>>>>      Colorado
>>>>>>>      >      >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>      >      >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>      >      >    We defend your rights
>>>>>>>      >      >    And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>      >      >    Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>      >      >
>>>>>>>      >      > References
>>>>>>>      >      >
>>>>>>>      >      >    1. mailto:[6][7]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>      >      >    2. [7][8]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>      >      >    3. mailto:[8]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>      >      >    4. [9][9]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>      >      >    5. mailto:[10]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>      >      >    6. [11][10]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      >    --
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      >    --
>>>>>>>      >    In Liberty,
>>>>>>>      >    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>      >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>>>>>>>      (Alaska,
>>>>>>>      >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, 
>>>>>>> Wyoming,
>>>>>>>      > Washington)
>>>>>>>      >    - [12]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>      >    Communications Director, [13]Libertarian Party of 
>>>>>>> Colorado
>>>>>>>      >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>      >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>      >    We defend your rights
>>>>>>>      >    And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>      >    Taxation is theft
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      > References
>>>>>>>      >
>>>>>>>      >    1. mailto:[11]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>      >    2. [12]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>      >    3. mailto:[13]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>      >    4. [14]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>      >    5. [15]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>      >    6. mailto:[16]elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>      >    7. [17]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>      >    8. mailto:[18]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>      >    9. [19]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>      >   10. mailto:[20]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>      >   11. [21]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>      >   12. mailto:[22]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>      >   13. [23]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>    --
>>>>>>>    --
>>>>>>>    In Liberty,
>>>>>>>    Caryn Ann Harlos
>>>>>>>    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee 
>>>>>>> (Alaska,
>>>>>>>    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, 
>>>>>>> Washington)
>>>>>>>    - [24]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>    Communications Director, [25]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>>>>>>>    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>>>>>>>    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>>>>>>>    We defend your rights
>>>>>>>    And oppose the use of force
>>>>>>>    Taxation is theft
>>>>>>> References
>>>>>>>    1. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>    2. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>    3. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>    4. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>    5. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>    6. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>    7. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>    8. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>    9. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>   10. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>   11. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>   12. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>   13. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>   14. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>   15. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>   16. mailto:elizabeth.vanhorn at lp.org
>>>>>>>   17. http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>>>>>>>   18. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>   19. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>   20. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>   21. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>   22. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>   23. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>>>>>>   24. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>>>>>>>   25. http://www.lpcolorado.org/



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