[Lnc-business] Publishing links to candidate articles with some platform deviations
Caryn Ann Harlos
caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Wed Mar 28 09:03:23 EDT 2018
I think we all need to give Wes a free throw each
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:35 AM Wes Benedict <wes.benedict at lp.org> wrote:
> To be fair, will you have to open this up to all candidates for the
> LNC?
>
> If there’s not enough dunking tanks, (or they’re prohibited) can y’all
> line up against a wall outside by the pool and sell water balloons to
> be thrown?
>
> Upon request, i can bring balloons to Denver for a trial run to see if
> they hurt y’all too much.
>
> But, I can’t see myself having the courage to actually throw one at
> y’all. You’ll have to test on each other.
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
> [1]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
> [2](202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [3]wes.benedict at lp.org
> [4]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
> Join the Libertarian Party at: [5]http://lp.org/membership
> On Mar 28, 2018, at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hayes <[6]daniel.hayes at lp.org>
> wrote:
>
> Caryn Ann,
> The dunk tank project has been in the works for a while but the hotel
> keeps kind of ignoring me. Part of the issue is where to put it. I
> don’t think the tank can get to the floor the pool is on because there
> is no freight elevator that makes it there and it doesn’t fit in a
> regular one.
> Besides that renting Champion Square is pricey. I keep trying because
> it seems popular.
> I think Arvin agreed to do it so I heard.
> As I am going to be ULTRA busy. Getting in the tank will require
> pre-sale of the balls at a premium price. Once in the tank I will talk
> serious smack.
> The problem is just getting the space worked out. I’m too overloaded
> to focus on it and giving the task to another COC Member isn’t so
> effective cause they can’t really scout it.
> Maybe outside the bank entrance. I need to go down there tomorrow so I
> will try and check it out.
> Daniel
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:08 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
> <[7]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I'm for fundraising by having a dunk tank with Daniel Hayes. We
> would
>
> raise a ton.
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Hayes
> <[1][8]daniel.hayes at lp.org>
>
> wrote:
>
> I’m for deleting the whole platform and rolling the omissions
> plank
>
> into the end of the SOP. But that’s a little out of the power of
> the
>
> LNC.
>
> Daniel Hayes
>
> LNC At Large Member
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:55 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>
> <[2][9]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
>
> This is how we have done it successfully. And the disclaimer
>
> can be
>
> done very politely and professionally that will not embarrass
>
> the
>
> candidate. I would hope that candidates would make that
>
> disclaimer
>
> themselves. Just as an activist I always clearly say when I
>
> deviate
>
> from an LP position or when it is unsettled (most notable
>
> example being
>
> abortion).
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Joshua Katz
>
> <[1][3][10]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well, I'm clearly outnumbered, and it's
>
> situation-dependent, but
>
> as a
>
> general matter, I think I'd rather not do it than use a
>
> disclaimer (but
>
> I favor running things without the disclaimer, and if we
>
> can't do
>
> that,
>
> then just not running it - and, given our current system,
>
> I'm
>
> happy
>
> leaving that decision to the APRC and staff). There are
>
> probably
>
> circumstances where I'm fine with the disclaimer, and
>
> circumstances
>
> where I'm less fine.
>
> Joshua A. Katz
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:08 PM,
>
> <[1][2][4][11]erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
>
> I am comfortable with this
>
> On 2018-03-27 18:55, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
>
> I favor this method. As it allows for highlighting a
>
> candidate,
>
> while
>
> simultaneously alerting readers that the LP platform
>
> differs
>
> somewhat.
>
> ---
>
> Elizabeth Van Horn
>
> LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
>
> Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
>
> Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
>
> Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
>
> [2][3][5][12]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
>
> On 2018-03-27 15:14, Whitney Bilyeu wrote:
>
> What if we just ask staff to include in the blog post a
>
> disclaimer
>
> of
>
> sorts with any such link....acknowledging that there
>
> may be
>
> specific
>
> opinions held by the candidate that are not 100% our
>
> own...?
>
> Whitney
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Wes Benedict
>
> <[1][3][4][6][13]wes.benedict at lp.org>
>
> wrote:
>
> Dear LNC:
>
> I'm bringing this to your attention now, because it has
>
> not
>
> been an
>
> issue for several months, but likely will come up again
>
> soon
>
> given
>
> that we have lots of candidates and will be writing lots
>
> of
>
> blog
>
> entries about candidates this year.
>
> Staff works to publish articles that comply with the LNC
>
> Bylaws
>
> and
>
> Policy Manual. The Advertising Publications and Review
>
> Committee is
>
> tasked with ensuring publications comply.
>
> I'd like to point out that I think Staff and the APRC
>
> have
>
> had
>
> a
>
> pretty good working relationship for at least 3 years and
>
> perhaps
>
> even longer than that if I think about it. So, this is
>
> not
>
> meant as
>
> a complaint in general about the APRC, Staff, or the
>
> overall
>
> procedures. Most things are fine in that area, in my
>
> opinion.
>
> I
>
> just
>
> want to focus on one issue.
>
> Nevertheless, it should come as no surprise that various
>
> members of
>
> the APRC and various staff don't always agree with each
>
> other
>
> on
>
> what constitutes a violation.
>
> A particular area of uncertainty has been articles with
>
> coverage of
>
> candidates where the articles include some positions that
>
> violate
>
> platform.
>
> I'll use public schools as a hypothetical, and the
>
> article
>
> below
>
> from the imaginary "Alexandria Beach Times."
>
> ====start article====
>
> [Sentence 1] John Doe, Libertarian candidate for
>
> Congress,
>
> says
>
> he
>
> wants to cut taxes, cut spending, end the war on drugs,
>
> and
>
> bring
>
> our troops home from overseas.
>
> [Sentence 2] When asked about public education, John Doe
>
> says
>
> "I'd
>
> like to use some of the savings from those cuts to
>
> increase
>
> spending
>
> on public schools."
>
> ====end article====
>
> I think most of the APRC and Staff would feel it's okay
>
> to
>
> write a
>
> blog and to quote Sentence 1 of the article above. Most
>
> of
>
> the
>
> APRC
>
> and Staff would probably feel it's NOT okay to quote
>
> Sentence
>
> 2.
>
> The area of likely disagreement is whether or not we
>
> could
>
> include a
>
> link to the source article in our blog entry.
>
> If there was an article where 50% or more of the content
>
> about
>
> the
>
> Libertarian candidate had platform violations, probably
>
> most
>
> of
>
> us
>
> wouldn't want to publicize it.
>
> There can be a great article about one of our candidates
>
> where
>
> 90%
>
> of the coverage is positive, but if 10% of the article
>
> includes
>
> a
>
> platform violation, we maybe should not link to it, or
>
> maybe
>
> we
>
> should.
>
> I used public school spending as an example above, but
>
> all
>
> kinds of
>
> things have come up in the past, such as opposing
>
> legalization
>
> of
>
> hard drugs (or letting the states decide on that), the
>
> Fair
>
> Tax,
>
> welfare, some regulations, and so on.
>
> I would like direction from the LNC on whether or not it
>
> is
>
> okay to
>
> publish things like blogs that links with some positions
>
> that
>
> might
>
> violate the platform.
>
> Based on feedback, I might float a suggest amendment to
>
> the
>
> Policy
>
> Manual for you all to consider at the upcoming LNC
>
> meeting.
>
> I can work comfortabl[4]y with whichever direction the
>
> LNC
>
> might go on
>
> this particular issue, but I think it's an important
>
> enough
>
> issue
>
> that has come up quite a bit in the past, that it
>
> should
>
> be
>
> considered by the LNC.
>
> If the LNC prefers to leave the decision up to the
>
> APRC,
>
> that
>
> is
>
> another option I'm comfortable with. In fact, I think
>
> that's
>
> the
>
> status quo right now, however, given recent changes in
>
> the
>
> APRC, I
>
> could not tell you how they'd rule on the above issue.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
>
> Wes Benedict, Executive Director
>
> Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
>
> [2]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
>
> [3][5][5][7](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
>
> [4][6][6][8][14]wes.benedict at lp.org
>
> [5][7][7][9][15]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
>
> Join the Libertarian Party at:
>
> [6][8][8][10][16]http://lp.org/membership
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:[9][9][11][17]wes.benedict at lp.org
>
> 2.
>
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>
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>
> VA+223
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>
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> --
>
> --
>
> In Liberty,
>
> Caryn Ann Harlos
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>
> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>
> Washington)
>
> - [29]Caryn.Ann. [37]Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications Director, [30]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>
> We defend your rights
>
> And oppose the use of force
>
> Taxation is theft
>
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> --
>
> --
>
> In Liberty,
>
> Caryn Ann Harlos
>
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>
> Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
> Washington)
>
> - [61]Caryn.Ann. [68]Harlos at LP.org
>
> Communications Director, [62]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>
> We defend your rights
>
> And oppose the use of force
>
> Taxation is theft
>
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>
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>
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*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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I think we all need to give Wes a free throw each
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 12:35 AM Wes Benedict <[1]wes.benedict at lp.org>
wrote:
To be fair, will you have to open this up to all candidates for
the
LNC?
If there’s not enough dunking tanks, (or they’re prohibited) can
y’all
line up against a wall outside by the pool and sell water
balloons to
be thrown?
Upon request, i can bring balloons to Denver for a trial run to
see if
they hurt y’all too much.
But, I can’t see myself having the courage to actually throw one
at
y’all. You’ll have to test on each other.
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
[1]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
[2](202) 333-0008 ext. 232, [3][2]wes.benedict at lp.org
[4][3]facebook.com/libertarians @LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at: [5][4]http://lp.org/membership
On Mar 28, 2018, at 2:17 AM, Daniel Hayes
<[6][5]daniel.hayes at lp.org>
wrote:
Caryn Ann,
The dunk tank project has been in the works for a while but the
hotel
keeps kind of ignoring me. Part of the issue is where to put
it. I
don’t think the tank can get to the floor the pool is on because
there
is no freight elevator that makes it there and it doesn’t fit in
a
regular one.
Besides that renting Champion Square is pricey. I keep trying
because
it seems popular.
I think Arvin agreed to do it so I heard.
As I am going to be ULTRA busy. Getting in the tank will require
pre-sale of the balls at a premium price. Once in the tank I
will talk
serious smack.
The problem is just getting the space worked out. I’m too
overloaded
to focus on it and giving the task to another COC Member isn’t so
effective cause they can’t really scout it.
Maybe outside the bank entrance. I need to go down there
tomorrow so I
will try and check it out.
Daniel
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 27, 2018, at 10:08 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
<[7][6]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
I'm for fundraising by having a dunk tank with Daniel Hayes.
We
would
raise a ton.
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Hayes
<[1][8][7]daniel.hayes at lp.org>
wrote:
I’m for deleting the whole platform and rolling the
omissions
plank
into the end of the SOP. But that’s a little out of the
power of
the
LNC.
Daniel Hayes
LNC At Large Member
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 27, 2018, at 9:55 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
<[2][9][8]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:
This is how we have done it successfully. And the disclaimer
can be
done very politely and professionally that will not embarrass
the
candidate. I would hope that candidates would make that
disclaimer
themselves. Just as an activist I always clearly say when I
deviate
from an LP position or when it is unsettled (most notable
example being
abortion).
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Joshua Katz
<[1][3][10][9]planning4liberty at gmail.com> wrote:
Well, I'm clearly outnumbered, and it's
situation-dependent, but
as a
general matter, I think I'd rather not do it than use a
disclaimer (but
I favor running things without the disclaimer, and if we
can't do
that,
then just not running it - and, given our current system,
I'm
happy
leaving that decision to the APRC and staff). There are
probably
circumstances where I'm fine with the disclaimer, and
circumstances
where I'm less fine.
Joshua A. Katz
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 7:08 PM,
<[1][2][4][11][10]erin.adams at lp.org> wrote:
I am comfortable with this
On 2018-03-27 18:55, Elizabeth Van Horn wrote:
I favor this method. As it allows for highlighting a
candidate,
while
simultaneously alerting readers that the LP platform
differs
somewhat.
---
Elizabeth Van Horn
LNC Region 3 (IN, MI, OH, KY)
Secretary Libertarian Party of Madison Co, Indiana
Chair-LP Social Media Process Review Committee
Vice-Chair Libertarian Pragmatist Caucus
[2][3][5][12][11]http://www.lpcaucus.org/
On 2018-03-27 15:14, Whitney Bilyeu wrote:
What if we just ask staff to include in the blog post a
disclaimer
of
sorts with any such link....acknowledging that there
may be
specific
opinions held by the candidate that are not 100% our
own...?
Whitney
On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 1:36 PM, Wes Benedict
<[1][3][4][6][13][12]wes.benedict at lp.org>
wrote:
Dear LNC:
I'm bringing this to your attention now, because it
has
not
been an
issue for several months, but likely will come up
again
soon
given
that we have lots of candidates and will be writing
lots
of
blog
entries about candidates this year.
Staff works to publish articles that comply with the
LNC
Bylaws
and
Policy Manual. The Advertising Publications and
Review
Committee is
tasked with ensuring publications comply.
I'd like to point out that I think Staff and the APRC
have
had
a
pretty good working relationship for at least 3 years
and
perhaps
even longer than that if I think about it. So, this
is
not
meant as
a complaint in general about the APRC, Staff, or the
overall
procedures. Most things are fine in that area, in my
opinion.
I
just
want to focus on one issue.
Nevertheless, it should come as no surprise that
various
members of
the APRC and various staff don't always agree with
each
other
on
what constitutes a violation.
A particular area of uncertainty has been articles
with
coverage of
candidates where the articles include some positions
that
violate
platform.
I'll use public schools as a hypothetical, and the
article
below
from the imaginary "Alexandria Beach Times."
====start article====
[Sentence 1] John Doe, Libertarian candidate for
Congress,
says
he
wants to cut taxes, cut spending, end the war on
drugs,
and
bring
our troops home from overseas.
[Sentence 2] When asked about public education, John
Doe
says
"I'd
like to use some of the savings from those cuts to
increase
spending
on public schools."
====end article====
I think most of the APRC and Staff would feel it's
okay
to
write a
blog and to quote Sentence 1 of the article above.
Most
of
the
APRC
and Staff would probably feel it's NOT okay to quote
Sentence
2.
The area of likely disagreement is whether or not we
could
include a
link to the source article in our blog entry.
If there was an article where 50% or more of the
content
about
the
Libertarian candidate had platform violations,
probably
most
of
us
wouldn't want to publicize it.
There can be a great article about one of our
candidates
where
90%
of the coverage is positive, but if 10% of the
article
includes
a
platform violation, we maybe should not link to it,
or
maybe
we
should.
I used public school spending as an example above,
but
all
kinds of
things have come up in the past, such as opposing
legalization
of
hard drugs (or letting the states decide on that),
the
Fair
Tax,
welfare, some regulations, and so on.
I would like direction from the LNC on whether or not
it
is
okay to
publish things like blogs that links with some
positions
that
might
violate the platform.
Based on feedback, I might float a suggest amendment
to
the
Policy
Manual for you all to consider at the upcoming LNC
meeting.
I can work comfortabl[4]y with whichever direction
the
LNC
might go on
this particular issue, but I think it's an
important
enough
issue
that has come up quite a bit in the past, that it
should
be
considered by the LNC.
If the LNC prefers to leave the decision up to the
APRC,
that
is
another option I'm comfortable with. In fact, I
think
that's
the
status quo right now, however, given recent changes
in
the
APRC, I
could not tell you how they'd rule on the above
issue.
Thanks,
--
Wes Benedict, Executive Director
Libertarian National Committee, Inc.
[2]1444 Duke St., Alexandria, VA 22314
[3][5][5][7](202) 333-0008 ext. 232,
[4][6][6][8][14][13]wes.benedict at lp.org
[5][7][7][9][15][14]facebook.com/libertarians
@LPNational
Join the Libertarian Party at:
[6][8][8][10][16][15]http://lp.org/membership
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--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
(Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
Washington)
- [29]Caryn.Ann. [37]Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, [30]Libertarian Party of Colorado
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
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--
--
In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
(Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
Washington)
- [61]Caryn.Ann. [68]Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, [62]Libertarian Party of Colorado
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
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In Liberty,
Caryn Ann Harlos
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
- [225]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
Communications Director, [226]Libertarian Party of Colorado
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
We defend your rights
And oppose the use of force
Taxation is theft
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