[Lnc-business] LNC members request for Mr. Vohra to resign

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Sun Apr 1 07:00:28 EDT 2018


Well I’ll attempt proposed language to get it started:

WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party holds the non-initiation of force as its
cardinal principle and requires each of its members to certify that they
neither advocate or belief in violent means to achieve political or social
goals.


RESOLVED, that the Libertarian National Committee suspends Arvin Vohra from
his position of Vice-Chair for sustained and repeated unacceptable conduct
that brings the principles of the Libertarian Party into disrepute,
including  making and defending a statement advocating lethal violence
against  state employees who are not directly threatening imminent lethal
harm in violation of our membership pledge.  These actions further endanger
the survival of our movement and the security of all of our members without
their consent.


On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> Starchild, it’s unacceptable and a lot of damage can be done between now
> and convention.
>
> I do not wish to be associated with such toxic behavior
>
> On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:47 PM Tim Hagan <tim.hagan at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> I also request Mr. Vohra to resign his position.
>>
>> ---
>> Tim Hagan
>> Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
>>
>> On 2018-03-31 16:04, Joshua Katz wrote:
>> > I will ask the Vice Chair to resign.  If that does not happen, I voted
>> >    against the last motion, and would vote differently at this time,
>> >    subject to the same provisions and limitations others have stated,
>> > and
>> >    one additional one: I want to see what the Vice Chair has to say
>> > before
>> >    I fully commit my vote.  However, I will say that this is over the
>> > line
>> >    I described last time, for several reasons.  This is a party, not a
>> > . .
>> >    . well, I can't think of any reputable organization where this sort
>> > of
>> >    thing would be acceptable.  I certainly can't think of any
>> > libertarian
>> >    context where this sort of thing makes sense, so it should be easy
>> > to
>> >    word this so as not to divide anyone.  However, we should be spared
>> >    having to do so.
>> >
>> >    Joshua A. Katz
>> >    On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Alicia Mattson
>> >    <[1]alicia.mattson at lp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >         Presuming that Mr. Vohra does not deny having posted the
>> > material
>> >      in
>> >         question...
>> >         Of course I would urge Mr. Vohra to resign, but he is not going
>> >      to do
>> >         that.  He's enjoying watching us complain about him.  The only
>> >      thing
>> >         that serves any purpose at this point is finding out whether
>> >      those who
>> >         previously voted against his suspension are willing to vote
>> >      differently
>> >         now.  If so, consider me a willing co-sponsor for a reasonably
>> >      worded
>> >         motion.
>> >         -Alicia
>> >         On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >         <[1][2]carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >              I would like this to be a clean thread with signatories to
>> > a
>> >           formal
>> >              request for Mr. Vohra to resign:
>> >              I add my name
>> >              --
>> >              In Liberty,
>> >              Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >              Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
>> >      (Alaska,
>> >              Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>> >           Washington)
>> >              - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> >              Communications Director, [2]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> >              Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>> >              Chair, Libertarian National Party Platform Committee
>> >              A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >              We defend your rights
>> >              And oppose the use of force
>> >              Taxation is theft
>> >           References
>> >              1. mailto:[2]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >              2. [3][3]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >      References
>> >         1. mailto:[4]carynannharlos at gmail.com
>> >         2. mailto:[5]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >         3. [6]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >
>> > References
>> >
>> >    1. mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
>> >    2. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
>> >    3. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >    4. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
>> >    5. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >    6. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>>
> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>
-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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   Well I’ll attempt proposed language to get it started:

   WHEREAS, the Libertarian Party holds the non-initiation of force as its
   cardinal principle and requires each of its members to certify that
   they neither advocate or belief in violent means to achieve political
   or social goals.

   RESOLVED, that the Libertarian National Committee suspends Arvin Vohra
   from his position of Vice-Chair for sustained and repeated unacceptable
   conduct that brings the principles of the Libertarian Party into
   disrepute, including  making and defending a statement advocating
   lethal violence against  state employees who are not directly
   threatening imminent lethal harm in violation of our membership
   pledge.  These actions further endanger the survival of our movement
   and the security of all of our members without their consent.

   On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 10:37 PM Caryn Ann Harlos
   <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:

   Starchild, it’s unacceptable and a lot of damage can be done between
   now and convention.
   I do not wish to be associated with such toxic behavior

   On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 9:47 PM Tim Hagan <[2]tim.hagan at lp.org> wrote:

     I also request Mr. Vohra to resign his position.
     ---
     Tim Hagan
     Treasurer, Libertarian National Committee
     On 2018-03-31 16:04, Joshua Katz wrote:
     > I will ask the Vice Chair to resign.  If that does not happen, I
     voted
     >    against the last motion, and would vote differently at this
     time,
     >    subject to the same provisions and limitations others have
     stated,
     > and
     >    one additional one: I want to see what the Vice Chair has to
     say
     > before
     >    I fully commit my vote.  However, I will say that this is over
     the
     > line
     >    I described last time, for several reasons.  This is a party,
     not a
     > . .
     >    . well, I can't think of any reputable organization where this
     sort
     > of
     >    thing would be acceptable.  I certainly can't think of any
     > libertarian
     >    context where this sort of thing makes sense, so it should be
     easy
     > to
     >    word this so as not to divide anyone.  However, we should be
     spared
     >    having to do so.
     >
     >    Joshua A. Katz
     >    On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 3:31 PM, Alicia Mattson
     >    <[1][3]alicia.mattson at lp.org> wrote:
     >
     >         Presuming that Mr. Vohra does not deny having posted the
     > material
     >      in
     >         question...
     >         Of course I would urge Mr. Vohra to resign, but he is not
     going
     >      to do
     >         that.  He's enjoying watching us complain about him.  The
     only
     >      thing
     >         that serves any purpose at this point is finding out
     whether
     >      those who
     >         previously voted against his suspension are willing to
     vote
     >      differently
     >         now.  If so, consider me a willing co-sponsor for a
     reasonably
     >      worded
     >         motion.
     >         -Alicia
     >         On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 7:51 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
     >         <[1][2][4]carynannharlos at gmail.com> wrote:
     >              I would like this to be a clean thread with
     signatories to
     > a
     >           formal
     >              request for Mr. Vohra to resign:
     >              I add my name
     >              --
     >              In Liberty,
     >              Caryn Ann Harlos
     >              Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National
     Committee
     >      (Alaska,
     >              Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah,
     Wyoming,
     >           Washington)
     >              - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
     >              Communications Director, [2]Libertarian Party of
     Colorado
     >              Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
     >              Chair, Libertarian National Party Platform Committee
     >              A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >              We defend your rights
     >              And oppose the use of force
     >              Taxation is theft
     >           References
     >              1. mailto:[2]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >              2. [3][3][5]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >      References
     >         1. mailto:[4][6]carynannharlos at gmail.com
     >         2. mailto:[5]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >         3. [6][7]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >
     > References
     >
     >    1. mailto:[8]alicia.mattson at lp.org
     >    2. mailto:[9]carynannharlos at gmail.com
     >    3. [10]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >    4. mailto:[11]carynannharlos at gmail.com
     >    5. mailto:[12]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >    6. [13]http://www.lpcolorado.org/

   --

   --

   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos

   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [14]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [15]Libertarian Party of Colorado

   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

   --

   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [16]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [17]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
   2. mailto:tim.hagan at lp.org
   3. mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
   4. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
   5. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
   6. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
   7. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
   8. mailto:alicia.mattson at lp.org
   9. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
  10. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  11. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
  12. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  13. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  14. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  15. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  16. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  17. http://www.lpcolorado.org/


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