[Lnc-business] Super Regions?

Caryn Ann Harlos caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
Mon Apr 2 14:31:14 EDT 2018


There is a bylaws change to increase the size but it would actually result
in less representation for small states.  Many people fundamentally
misunderstand the regional system.

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos <caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org>
wrote:

> It was a question but I doubt it will happen
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 11:57 AM <david.demarest at lp.org> wrote:
>
>> Philosophically, I am comfortable with the concept of super regions. The
>> super region proposal should be workable logistically in terms of LNC
>> structure, primarily because it would not change the number of region
>> representatives and alternates. I think our predecessors did an amazing job
>> in choosing wisely on the current structure and size of the LNC.
>>
>> My only questions are on the logistics but that would be the prerogative
>> and responsibility of the regions involved. One concern is that the larger
>> states in the combined region might exacerbate normal concentration of
>> power and push smaller states even further into the shadows with unknown
>> impact on Libertarians in the smaller states that might feel even less
>> represented. Another concern is the complexity of structuring and electing
>> representatives and alternates for super regions. Again, this is an unknown
>> that would have to be answered on an ad hoc basis by the specific regions
>> involved. This is speculation on my part that might easily be proven wrong.
>>
>> Are there any current initiatives for super regions?
>>
>> Thoughts?
>>
>> David Pratt Demarest.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lnc-business <lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of Joshua
>> Katz
>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 12:00 PM
>> To: lnc-business at hq.lp.org
>> Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Super Regions?
>>
>> Yes, states totaling 20% can be a double region.  My (former) state was
>> in one for a time.  The regional agreement should specify how the reps and
>> alternates will be chosen.
>>
>> Joshua A. Katz
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos <
>> carynannharlos at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >    In 2016, there was a plan (that didn't come to fruition) for a super
>> >    region with CA, WA, and a few other states with such region getting 2
>> >    reps and 2 alts.  Is that an option?  There are *possibly* states
>> >    interested in a super region with region 1
>> >    --
>> >    In Liberty,
>> >    Caryn Ann Harlos
>> >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
>> >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
>> Washington)
>> >    - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
>> >    Communications Director, [2]Libertarian Party of Colorado
>> >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>> >    Chair, Libertarian National Party Platform Committee
>> >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
>> >    We defend your rights
>> >    And oppose the use of force
>> >    Taxation is theft
>> >
>> > References
>> >
>> >    1. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
>> >    2. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
>> >
>>
>> --
> --
> *In Liberty,*
> *Caryn Ann Harlos*
> Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
> Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
> Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
> Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
> <http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
> Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
>
> A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
> *We defend your rights*
> *And oppose the use of force*
> *Taxation is theft*
>



-- 
-- 
*In Liberty,*
*Caryn Ann Harlos*
Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska, Arizona,
Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington) - Caryn.Ann.
Harlos at LP.org <Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org>
Communications Director, Libertarian Party of Colorado
<http://www.lpcolorado.org/>
Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee

A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
*We defend your rights*
*And oppose the use of force*
*Taxation is theft*
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   There is a bylaws change to increase the size but it would actually
   result in less representation for small states.  Many people
   fundamentally misunderstand the regional system.

   On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 12:04 PM, Caryn Ann Harlos
   <[1]caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org> wrote:

   It was a question but I doubt it will happen
   On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 11:57 AM <[2]david.demarest at lp.org> wrote:

     Philosophically, I am comfortable with the concept of super regions.
     The super region proposal should be workable logistically in terms
     of LNC structure, primarily because it would not change the number
     of region representatives and alternates. I think our predecessors
     did an amazing job in choosing wisely on the current structure and
     size of the LNC.
     My only questions are on the logistics but that would be the
     prerogative and responsibility of the regions involved. One concern
     is that the larger states in the combined region might exacerbate
     normal concentration of power and push smaller states even further
     into the shadows with unknown impact on Libertarians in the smaller
     states that might feel even less represented. Another concern is the
     complexity of structuring and electing representatives and
     alternates for super regions. Again, this is an unknown that would
     have to be answered on an ad hoc basis by the specific regions
     involved. This is speculation on my part that might easily be proven
     wrong.
     Are there any current initiatives for super regions?
     Thoughts?
     David Pratt Demarest.
     -----Original Message-----
     From: Lnc-business <[3]lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org> On Behalf Of
     Joshua Katz
     Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 12:00 PM
     To: [4]lnc-business at hq.lp.org
     Subject: Re: [Lnc-business] Super Regions?
     Yes, states totaling 20% can be a double region.  My (former) state
     was in one for a time.  The regional agreement should specify how
     the reps and alternates will be chosen.
     Joshua A. Katz
     On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 11:06 AM, Caryn Ann Harlos
     <[5]carynannharlos at gmail.com>
     wrote:
     >    In 2016, there was a plan (that didn't come to fruition) for a
     super
     >    region with CA, WA, and a few other states with such region
     getting 2
     >    reps and 2 alts.  Is that an option?  There are *possibly*
     states
     >    interested in a super region with region 1
     >    --
     >    In Liberty,
     >    Caryn Ann Harlos
     >    Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee
     (Alaska,
     >    Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming,
     Washington)
     >    - [1]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
     >    Communications Director, [2]Libertarian Party of Colorado
     >    Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
     >    Chair, Libertarian National Party Platform Committee
     >    A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
     >    We defend your rights
     >    And oppose the use of force
     >    Taxation is theft
     >
     > References
     >
     >    1. mailto:[6]Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
     >    2. [7]http://www.lpcolorado.org/
     >

   --

   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [8]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [9]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

   --
   --
   In Liberty,
   Caryn Ann Harlos
   Region 1 Representative, Libertarian National Committee (Alaska,
   Arizona, Colorado, Hawaii, Kansas, Montana, Utah, Wyoming, Washington)
   - [10]Caryn.Ann. Harlos at LP.org
   Communications Director, [11]Libertarian Party of Colorado
   Chair, LP Historical Preservation Committee
   A haiku to the Statement of Principles:
   We defend your rights
   And oppose the use of force
   Taxation is theft

References

   1. mailto:caryn.ann.harlos at lp.org
   2. mailto:david.demarest at lp.org
   3. mailto:lnc-business-bounces at hq.lp.org
   4. mailto:lnc-business at hq.lp.org
   5. mailto:carynannharlos at gmail.com
   6. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
   7. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
   8. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
   9. http://www.lpcolorado.org/
  10. mailto:Caryn.Ann.Harlos at LP.org
  11. http://www.lpcolorado.org/


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